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Posted: 22 March 2011 at 5:48am | IP Logged
Originally posted by intruderfast

Originally posted by hermoinee

Originally posted by groucho

Originally posted by puja8

I think if we introspect the root cause of everyone's miseries is Ichha. 
1. Jogis' heart attack
2. Veer married to wrong girl first time--who gave her the right to decide taps could be substituted
3. shielding Taps murder attempts
4. Ultimately Vansh's dealth
5. Now deceiving Veer by hiding the truth

I have observed she is a habitual liar and in her so called antics to be Mahaan she ruins everyone.

honestly--sorry to say--but what a disgrace to common sense and how much hurt she causes to other people.

I also do not know where the serial is headed and they could have made this track more  interesting by Veer investigating this on his own

not sure what other's think

Comments?

I guess I am struggling with what to learn from Iccha;s value system--or rather  to unlearn?


I have a slightly different perception.

Yes, Ichcha is not a character who takes a strong stand and tends to get bullied by others.........she has also let the her gratitude to the Thakur clan for giving her the life she has, overpower every other emotion.

1. Jogis' heart attack - Ichcha was not the cause of that Tapasya fooling everyone  by threatening to commit suicide was.
2. Veer married to wrong girl first time--who gave her the right to decide taps could be substituted. No one gave her the right except Ichcha's love for Tapasya...........foolish yes, but let's be honest, if Ichcha had not done that we would not have Uttaran
3. shielding Taps murder attempts............. Again her love for Tapasya..........not sensible
4. Ultimately Vansh's dealth - If Vansh had any happy moments in his life it was when he was with Ichcha. She did not see the signals of his health deteriorating  but Tapasya was the one who pushed him over the edge so she is NOT responsible for his death.
5. Now deceiving Veer by hiding the truth- Again stupid move but a decision ruled by her gratitude to Jogi and a wish not to see Veer shamed.

For me the root of Ichcha's misery is Ichcha - she lies to avoid hurting others in direct contrast to other characters like Nani, Pushkar, Tapasya who lie for their own gain.

I think Ichcha's values are not up for discussion as they are very much the right values.............what is happening is that she is not able to impart those values as we had hoped she would .................due to this ridiculous love for Tapasya and her genuine love for Jogi.

This quote by the French novelist and Nobel prize winner Albert Camus explains the roles of both Tapasya and Ichcha for their own and others' misery very aptly...

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Edited by hermoinee - 22 March 2011 at 5:49am

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Posted: 22 March 2011 at 5:54am | IP Logged
Originally posted by groucho

Originally posted by puja8

I think if we introspect the root cause of everyone's miseries is Ichha. 
1. Jogis' heart attack
2. Veer married to wrong girl first time--who gave her the right to decide taps could be substituted
3. shielding Taps murder attempts
4. Ultimately Vansh's dealth
5. Now deceiving Veer by hiding the truth

I have observed she is a habitual liar and in her so called antics to be Mahaan she ruins everyone.

honestly--sorry to say--but what a disgrace to common sense and how much hurt she causes to other people.

I also do not know where the serial is headed and they could have made this track more  interesting by Veer investigating this on his own

not sure what other's think

Comments?

I guess I am struggling with what to learn from Iccha;s value system--or rather  to unlearn?


I have a slightly different perception.

Yes, Ichcha is not a character who takes a strong stand and tends to get bullied by others.........she has also let the her gratitude to the Thakur clan for giving her the life she has, overpower every other emotion.

1. Jogis' heart attack - Ichcha was not the cause of that Tapasya fooling everyone  by threatening to commit suicide was.
2. Veer married to wrong girl first time--who gave her the right to decide taps could be substituted. No one gave her the right except Ichcha's love for Tapasya...........foolish yes, but let's be honest, if Ichcha had not done that we would not have Uttaran
3. shielding Taps murder attempts............. Again her love for Tapasya..........not sensible
4. Ultimately Vansh's dealth - If Vansh had any happy moments in his life it was when he was with Ichcha. She did not see the signals of his health deteriorating  but Tapasya was the one who pushed him over the edge so she is NOT responsible for his death.
5. Now deceiving Veer by hiding the truth- Again stupid move but a decision ruled by her gratitude to Jogi and a wish not to see Veer shamed.

For me the root of Ichcha's misery is Ichcha - she lies to avoid hurting others in direct contrast to other characters like Nani, Pushkar, Tapasya who lie for their own gain.

I think Ichcha's values are not up for discussion as they are very much the right values.............what is happening is that she is not able to impart those values as we had hoped she would .................due to this ridiculous love for Tapasya and her genuine love for Jogi.

Now another person has been added to her genuine love - Veer.
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Posted: 22 March 2011 at 5:58am | IP Logged
Originally posted by tiredofuttaran

Originally posted by varun.tap

she ruined everybody's life it is big true no one happy with one her........
na tappu
na vansh
na veer
na ichcha khud........
she is totaly a fake and unreal charactor.............
she always saying lie with himself...................
she is always showing she is only mahaan and evryone small in front of her mahanta....
she always saying lies lies lies only lies, Its true........
again i say she is a fake and very unreal charactor.............

<div></div>mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....and finally no UT without her...and nothing called acchayi without her...kyun ki baaki sab tho devils hi devils hain Smileek se bad kar ek

Kaheki achchai achchai dekha ke bheek manga hai kya creative ko ROFLachchai ka matlab ichcha aur hichcha ka matlab hai without acting with boring = suicide....ROFL
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Posted: 22 March 2011 at 10:35am | IP Logged
Originally posted by groucho

Originally posted by puja8

I think if we introspect the root cause of everyone's miseries is Ichha. 
1. Jogis' heart attack
2. Veer married to wrong girl first time--who gave her the right to decide taps could be substituted
3. shielding Taps murder attempts
4. Ultimately Vansh's dealth
5. Now deceiving Veer by hiding the truth

I have observed she is a habitual liar and in her so called antics to be Mahaan she ruins everyone.

honestly--sorry to say--but what a disgrace to common sense and how much hurt she causes to other people.

I also do not know where the serial is headed and they could have made this track more  interesting by Veer investigating this on his own

not sure what other's think

Comments?

I guess I am struggling with what to learn from Iccha;s value system--or rather  to unlearn?


I have a slightly different perception.

Yes, Ichcha is not a character who takes a strong stand and tends to get bullied by others.........she has also let the her gratitude to the Thakur clan for giving her the life she has, overpower every other emotion.

1. Jogis' heart attack - Ichcha was not the cause of that Tapasya fooling everyone  by threatening to commit suicide was.
2. Veer married to wrong girl first time--who gave her the right to decide taps could be substituted. No one gave her the right except Ichcha's love for Tapasya...........foolish yes, but let's be honest, if Ichcha had not done that we would not have Uttaran
3. shielding Taps murder attempts............. Again her love for Tapasya..........not sensible
4. Ultimately Vansh's dealth - If Vansh had any happy moments in his life it was when he was with Ichcha. She did not see the signals of his health deteriorating  but Tapasya was the one who pushed him over the edge so she is NOT responsible for his death.
5. Now deceiving Veer by hiding the truth- Again stupid move but a decision ruled by her gratitude to Jogi and a wish not to see Veer shamed.

For me the root of Ichcha's misery is Ichcha - she lies to avoid hurting others in direct contrast to other characters like Nani, Pushkar, Tapasya who lie for their own gain.

I think Ichcha's values are not up for discussion as they are very much the right values.............what is happening is that she is not able to impart those values as we had hoped she would .................due to this ridiculous love for Tapasya and her genuine love for Jogi.
well said!!ClapClapStar though i don't like sum of icchha's decisions but atleast her intentions were/r never 2 harm any1!!i read sumwhere that" consequencies of our actions r so wide that we don't know wat"ll happen nxt". so its only intentions behind every action which decides wats rite 7 wats wrong!!

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Posted: 22 March 2011 at 9:37pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by JustJ

every ckts in this show are so freaking fake , no one is close to reality or being normal , every one played major role in some ones misery , one can never blame and point their finger only at icha  , 
 
Agree with you! Smile  But your post reminds me of a Nandish and Rashmi's interview where they said they like Uttaran the most because all the characters are very realistic, close to real.LOL I remember cracking up at this statement.LOL   


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Posted: 22 March 2011 at 9:58pm | IP Logged
Ichcha never shows lovely care openly towards Veer......Veer has to coax her to get her to be loving....when they were in their room Ichcha could have shown appreciation for flowers he brought for her.....she is so absorbed in her thoughts......balancing act is what ichcha requires else she looses out on moments......problems toh hai aur rahegeh aayegeh jayegeh magar bheech bheech meh light moments masti toh bhee hoh saktee hai choti choti cheezoh meh humor toh bhee dekhnah chahiyeh.....SmileSmile
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Posted: 22 March 2011 at 10:02pm | IP Logged
Ichcha will screw up her Holi instead of enjoying her first holi with Veer.....she should make sure Veer does not spend too much time with Taps....tho' knowing Veer he will make sure Taps feels happy now that he is thinking mother to be women go through so much mood swings - to jsutify his acts cvs always gives us a disclaimer Smile before Veer does things for Taps these days
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Posted: 22 March 2011 at 10:03pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by sps0114

Ichcha never shows lovely care openly towards Veer......Veer has to coax her to get her to be loving....when they were in their room Ichcha could have shown appreciation for flowers he brought for her.....she is so absorbed in her thoughts......balancing act is what ichcha requires else she looses out on moments......problems toh hai aur rahegeh aayegeh jayegeh magar bheech bheech meh light moments masti toh bhee hoh saktee hai choti choti cheezoh meh humor toh bhee dekhnah chahiyeh.....SmileSmile


To be fair to Ichcha she has shown affection and love for Veer although very infrequently.........and Veer has always teased her about it.....................the situation is different now..............I think she did like the floweres but Veer negated her response by going to feed Tapasya............so she went into her usual pensive mood...........which is becoming very tiring.................but Veer's move was dumb and dumber.Ouch

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