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Posted: 24 March 2011 at 4:06pm | IP Logged
LOL @ jaldi jaldi and night owls LOL .....nothing major I was pointing to, but here it goes....LOL LOL

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Madhu's line: Apne mera dat.....instead of Dad ROFL I mean seriously, this is by no means a way of offending anyone, but how jarring did that sound?! LOL Kala's gun let her down, giving the opportunity to let everyone open their mouths LOL Roops out of nowhere managed to say that line : Jo bura na samjhe.....a little weird, too much ishara going on Ermm kinda off again....

LOL....you heard "Dat"....I thought I heard "Tere Dead ko maarke mere Dead bohot pachtaayete".....and I was like how can one "DEAD" kill another "DEAD" LOL LOL and how did she know that her father killed Kala's father and that Kala killed DP Confused 

LOVED Dutta as the one in control again...oh Kala was well and truly dumbfounded. But clearly, she has no problem in killing Dutta, no Sir. The anger with which she threw the gun away Clap, failure again, almost the expression of her annoyance and anger at everything going down the drain. The way Dutta smiled at hearing Mahadev and the villagers chanting his name was truly endearing. Loved the authority but respect with which he told everyone to calm down. How Dutta like was it though when he told them that the enemy had run away? He would rather deal with his sister by himself, rather than make it a public viewing. Absolutely loved that scene.

Okay....so here when I heard the "Dutta Bhao" naare, I almost thought that the much awaited psychological battle was gonna go down the drain with more interruptions but Dutta managed it well with the apne vs. paraye dialogues and explanations.......and to a certain extent I wasn't fully satisfied with the left over jungle scene.....thought it was alright.....I was expecting pure silence and ONLY DUTTA and KALA having a go at each other....... and then the BG's apologizing was a bit annoying with their weird postures of namaskars LOL LOL ......and totally didn't like Madhu's and Roops' quick jerky head motions when the first empty shot got fired and some of their other expressions......they should get some acting tips from Mishal on how to be subtle yet deliver the expressions in a rightly manner LOL LOL........agree with you on the Roops saying Kala's tagline......she totally FAILED at delivering the power of those words......the way KALA says it, it's a total WOW moment....and even the hand gesture of hers Ermm LOL

.........BUT that is NOT to say that the scene did not have it's WOW moments.....it sure did.....LOVED Dutta's raised hand gesture though......pure symbol of his restored authority, his strength, his command over people but in a humbled way......LOVED the voice modulation by AG when she says "Jeet ke itna kareeb aake.......mujhe haarna manjoor nahi hai Dutta".......and this is where the scene picked up again for me......the tears in her eyes which btw looked stunning along with her hair, the disbelief of FINALLY having LOST the battle she had been preparing for years....and even then because she is Kalavati, not once did she GIVE UP.......the resentment, continued struggle to somehow fire that bullet.......brilliant stuff and that "dhoom dhoom" tarana was so awesome when the villagers came back LOL.....Tanaji's smile was nice but Bhola ji toh had this  " Why did I have to come back" look with his head down LOL LOL 
 
There's 1 problem I had when deciphering whether Suds was truly sorry. I think I came to the conclusion that at the end of the day, when the second worst thing to death arrives in your life, then yeah, anyone would do what Suds did. It was more in fear of losing everything and facing Dutta's wrath. So engrossed was Sumit Kaul that saliva dropped out of his mouth! LOL

SO......actually I kinda felt bad for him when he was apologizing for his deeds......like really bad ( I know it sounds weird) ....I think Sumit Kaul did a good job......def. better than his usual "shifty eyes and constipated look".....and the way he was saying "mereko maaf kardo" and the the saliva dropped out of his mouth.....thought it was very natural....just the tone and stuff too.

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I thought it was sweet how he called her name out....as if she was his only ray of hope on his path to repentance


**EDIT: OMG.....,just read some previous posts....I am so dead tonight with my thoughts LOL LOL ....maybe I should re-watch the episode and figure out what went wrong with my dimaag LOL


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Ooo Ooo Param I have had 2 hours of sleep last night due to coursework which is why I need to sleep well tonight. Thanks dude! Totally agree with you about the head jerking by Leela and them lot ROFLthat was so random, like delayed reactions and stuff!

WORD about the way Dutta raised his hands, great description there! Thumbs Up

Suds...yesss....I think I'm trying to understand purely from a do or die situation why he would be truly sorry...the way in which he was asking for it was tooo much to bear....but in the end it was genuine enough to make you think that perhaps he wants to turn over a new leaf. Then again, his prescence in PN is not good. Seema prime example of what can happen LOL Yeah it's understandable why you would feel sorry dude, which is why I think we as humans with jaazbat can relate to ullu people like Suds as well right? LOL

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Posted: 24 March 2011 at 4:21pm | IP Logged
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So much...I don't even know where to start...

Hero of the episode: Three way split between MR, AG and the dialogues! :worship: Hell of an impressive job by both of them and then Anil Deshmukh...truly some fantastically written punches by him today!

Zero of the episode: Editing and continuity *throws jootas and hawai chappals at them* LOL

My favourites lines...

- "Jaako raakhe saiyaan, maar sake na koi." Oh that was a brill dialogue! The way VR delivered it sent a tingling feeling down my spine- happiness for the viewer all over!

Oh, Baaji Rao Patil:inlove: ..loveloveloved it...divine way to summarize it all Smile

- "Jo bhala na samjhe, jo bura na samjhe, woh Kalavati ko kya samjhega?" 

Roops got the money shot! LOL What sarcasm! LOL...really well done by Neetu Wadhwa as well...I thought the rest of the family was looking rather shamefaced and humiliated that their youngest was insulting the eldest LOL Even Dutta turned around to look at her, but I thought that the fact Roops said, the way she delivered it was odd. Perhaps because it has been a long time after we have heard them say something of substance. Also that is Kala's line toh uski zubaan sa hi acha lagta ha LOL

- "Yeh insaaf ka natak band kijiye, Aai Saheb." ROFL ROFL ROFL

Standing ovation wala dialogue by Kala LOLClap Couldn't agree more with her LOL word!

- "Main kal bhi Dutta se nafrat karti thi, aaj bhi karti hoon, aur hamesha karti rahoon gi."

THIS is what you call being badass...watch and learn from the master, Suds LOL I loved how Kala stuck to her guns...no regrets, no doubts, no pleading like lotta Suds...there again is the fact that she JUSTIFIES herself, she believes she is right...and she won't back down...what determination! Clap Even the way she was standing with her arms crossed and giving them all attitude despite being insulted and questioned was so hilarious LOL *insert idiom about a certain dog's tail* LOL The best part was Dutta's reaction to the vitriol in Kala's words...how HURT he was throughout, the pain in his eyes, that tear escaping...how brilliantly, with such immense control and balance did MR portray this? Clap Unmatched. Oh man Dutta was trying to understand her in some moments, I think he was still to some extent processing what she had done. Basically, he was providing an overall summary of what she did, but somewhere he really didn't want to take up the responsibility of dealing with her maybe? This episode has left me assuming a lot, so many interpretations.

- "Tera pati paedaishi kameena tha." 

ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

It's so funny how AG can say something like that yet make it sound so classy and hilarious at the same time as it is a slap in the face LOL Suds ki aaj bhi besti nahi choddi! Sab ke samne! LOL Wah wah, wah wah...*pleased face* LOL Defo stole the show that line.

- "Aur waise bhi, iss ghar mein apni apni shaadi se khush hai kaun?"

A+ addition ClapLOL Felt like all the dark, gritty and unsaid family secrets were spilling out in full steam for a moment PartyLOL No one like Kala to do the honours LOL Couldn't have described it better Fatty. An underlying dig at Tasha as well...the fact that she was able to some degree cause a rift in their marriage at one point as well....but defo regarding her own marriage...somehow this is all turning out to be AS's fault- 2 marriages that have flopped big time. I still think AS is weird......I'm waiting for her mumbo-jumbo stuff again....like when is that need for a puja going to come along? The minute Dutta vanishes, she'll be on Naku's case again....penduluming starts all over again....I'm going to watch LTL even is MR leaves...I've come this far, I'm not one to swtich off...

- "Koi kuch nahi keh raha, Kala. Iska matlab sab ek hi cheez chahte hain." *points gun at her forehead* 

Taaliyaan and seetiyan moment # 2! PartyLOL (The first one being Suds' besti, I actually really physically clapped at that LOL) Anuuuu, where are you!? Look what happened, Dutta pointed a gun right at Kala...and that too in the PN hall...this is deja vu! LOL

Biggest W*F of the episode - Suds' being forgiven...I call bs! Even Baaji Rao was affronted LOL What the hell is Leela thinking? ErmmWacko (Amazingness from MR in this bit too as he smiles and accepts her 'request'...hats off to this guy...:worship: )...but yeah, Suds getting let off? I am so not on that boat! *jumps off* Pinch Now this is what had me in a dilemma......and I think it was a very difficult situation taking into account the relationships at stake....but this is soap world....I think Suds will backstab Dutta again....he can never change....the way in which he was asking for forgiveness was a W*F moment....after all that, he wanted to look after his family....the forgiving part was cringe worthy.

Fatty, this episode, more than anything else had raised questions about whether Dutta has made the right decision in forgiving Suds. So clearly Kala will get kicked out, but the raises the question as to whether Dutta, AS etc are so stupid that they will let her go? Also I felt a little miffed at AS telling Dutta to do what he wants with Kala, that she has closed her eyes....there's always a question of morals- does Dutta have the right to kill Kala- purely on an ethical basis...you would know what I mean considering you're studying law....so she is willing to have her die at his hands? I know it's Kala, she deserves her comeuppance....but the way she said that....naaa....Naku will probably step in and say a few words....see why this episode is a bit of a brain musher LOL Oh man I think I've just let my 'dil ki paras' out....you've just got it LOL

Aur Bholaaaaaaaaaaa came back after I thought we'd never see any of them again! LOL Nice surprise Mr. Green


@ red - Suds being forgiven and Kala decided to be shot somehow doesnt seem consistent Confused (though we know Dutta wont do that eventually). I mean, I know Kala has done a bigger sin, but Suds was equally a part of it, he wasnt a small kid to fall for her "behkaava" right? Like how Kala rightly puts it, he has been a "kameena" since birth LOL. He did the "execution" part of all of Kala's plans. He also gave her ideas from time to time (which btw worked better than Kala's LOL!). So I dint feel Suds DESERVED that forgivance so quickly.

And I also agree with what you said about AS being "OK" with Dutta KILLING Kala Confused. I mean, ATLEAST NOW AS should demotivate Dutta to kill anyone, especially his "sister" Kala! Because of the "momentary" anger he can kill her, but will he be able to forgive himself for the rest of his life if he did that? Because at the end of the day, Dutta is a nice guy with a good heart. What about her son, who would lose his mother? Kala is a WITCH, she is the most selfish woman, but there is a difference between Kala and Dutta right? So definitely Dutta will show this difference eventually, and set her free.

@ green - Very true, Dutta himself was so vulnerable and dint know WHAT to do with Kala inspite of EVERYTHING she did Ouch, that he kept asking AS to make a decision regarding her.


But one thing I have to say about AS, she is definitely a MUCH better mother-in-law compared to many others, like they generally show in other serials. Atleast she is more concerned about her son's happiness, unlike other MILs who carry personal rivalry against their DILs and put their OWN sons in "dharmasankat" not knowing whom to side. And she is less irritating as well, compared to all of them. I think most of the time she tries to be objective, only when her Dutta is hurt or angry, she gets really upset and blames the concerned party.





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The epi had a lot of powerful moments mainly thanks to MR, AG and the dialogues like Fatty pointed out flow was definitely an issue......

I agree with Param's point about how the villagers returning with their naarebaazi changed the tone of the scene from that almost one on one that Kala-Dutta were having.....but then they wanted to show the whole funda of how ppl instantly respect and venerate Dutta so much.....more randomly hilarious was the BGs chanting for forgiveness......rofl

It would be repetitive to say it and hard to pinpoint every moment in the epi but there were just too many WOW moments acting-wise to count.....in the first scene where Dutta tells her that everything has left her saath and the defiant way in which Kala keeps pressing the trigger in a futile manner with those tears in her eyes.


The shifting of base to PN....Kala more composed now.....lol....and just the way MR commanded that scene at the outset.....amazing....this guy's body language is just something else.....the way he was looking at Kala throughout as he portrayed such an array of emotions....but always that sadness....that sheen of tears in his eyes at what she is....how she could do all this and is defiant till the end.....I can't even describe that emotion fully....sadness, a bit of pity, regret that she had to bring their relationships to this, anger, hurt.....a lot there.

Then there's Kala on the other end....defiant, proud, smug till the end.....just the way we like her....lol....loved all the dialogues in this bit like everyone pointed out.

Suds is such a weasel.....anyone who can fall for that kind of "prayishchit" act.....I have no words.....deffo rushed writing and the only really contrived part of the epi....Leela is a dumbass too for this......liked Baaji's W*F expression when Leela agreed and even Dutta agreed cuz of Leela.....lol

The last scene was dragged in comparison to the first one for sure....and I felt that the end with Dutta talking to Nakku and saying look at this woman who did all this to us.....what was the POINT of that dialogue?? Nakku had NOTHING to say in this epi.....just staring wide mouthed at Kala in that scene too.....what are they doing to MV? I'm eerily reminded of the DP track when Nakku/MV went in the same BLANK mode for a bit. And then again Dutta repeating the same line about AS bolo kaunsi sazaa deni hai......felt odd.

Anyways liked how he pulled out the gun and pointed it at Kala.....FABBB expressions by MR-AG in this bit.


As for the precap.....MR/Dutta's bit seems sweet but MV is like MEGA BLANK.....what is WRONG with her?Confused  Is she seriously ill or something?

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Posted: 24 March 2011 at 4:31pm | IP Logged
Yes Aparna, that is the puzzle of the day - was Dutta right to give Suds 1 more chance? If going by the article, Dutta does disappear, surely that will provide Suds the opportunity to go back to what he is best at? Perhaps he himself will have a hand in his disappearance. There is much more to Suds than meets the eye I think. At the end of it all, we can sum up Suds character: when the situation is grim, he is quick to change colours and hops onto the 'good' boat. Otherwise, only yesterday, he fired a bullet directed at Dutta....anyway Suds is a coward that is for sure.

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Posted: 24 March 2011 at 4:32pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by neets_ltl

Ooo Ooo Param I have had 2 hours of sleep last night due to coursework 

 which is why I need to sleep well tonight. Thanks dude! Totally agree with you about the head jerking by Leela and them lot ROFLthat was so random, like delayed reactions and stuff!

No worries....I am in the same boat....this whole week has been just Ouch Unhappy but I am travelling on the weekend so should be bit of a relief LOL
WORD about the way Dutta raised his hands, great description there! Thumbs Up

Suds...yesss....I think I'm trying to understand purely from a do or die situation why he would be truly sorry...the way in which he was asking for it was tooo much to bear....but in the end it was genuine enough to make you think that perhaps he wants to turn over a new leaf. Then again, his prescence in PN is not good. Seema prime example of what can happen LOL Yeah it's understandable why you would feel sorry dude, which is why I think we as humans with jaazbat can relate to ullu people like Suds as well right? LOL 

Regarding Suds.....it remains to be seen if he is truly sorry for what he did or is he going to be a girgit and show his true colors later on.......but just at that moment when I was watching him, I just felt sorry for the dude 





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Interesting episode. Lot's of final tie ins with all the characters. Lot's of perspectives from various characters brought into full circle. Just some interesting ways to tie things up, that I wouldn't have thought of while imagining how this would take place for sure. Thumbs Up

The first thing I liked was the way MR/AG enacted the continuation of yesterday's scene. Especially the way Dutta just spreads his arms, and in a fed up way just tells Kala to shoot. Awww :( I really felt for Dutta in that moment. Even Kala too, the way she is trying to keep it together, but you know that she is about to loose it. Loved the "goli bhi tera saath nahin de rahi" touch. Clap 

What I loved also, was how Dutta emphasized the fact that Kala was all alone. Continuation from when AS also tells Kala that she is all alone. I NEEDED to see that! So really really glad the creatives put in that bit. Especially with the be painde ke lotte BG's also coming back to Dutta's side. LOL That was also needed I think. And yay Mahadev, Bhola JI and gang came back. :P LOL These guys just aren't gonna rest until they see 'their' Bhao in safe hands na? :P LOL How sweet haijee. :P LOL I kind of missed these guys. *senti muh* :P LOL 

Anyways, it was just nice to see that whole everyone supporting Dutta vs. Kala being left alone in the end situation. Exactly what I was hoping for too, so really glad we got to see that. Thumbs Up

LMAO at the dialogue Roops got! The infamous "jo bhala na samjhe bura na samjhe one" haha That was such a nice surprising touch. LOL It was like the perfect punch! Cool And even Baaji's "Jaako raakhe saayiyan" wala dialogue. Awesome! Cool

And then after that how they cut to PN... it was nice to see the PN setting again. That main hall central always up for huge dhamaka and drama of some sort. LOL Only this time apna Suds bichara couldn't do his usual shifty eyes while enjoying the moment thing. :P LOL Uski khud hi shaamat ayi hui hai abhi toh. Evil Smile

I think it was a good call that they did all this at PN in the end. After all, this was a family problem more than anything else. And it should only involve the family members at the end of the day. This wasn't like Dutta's usual enemy fights where an open setting would be required. It was a family matter and so it should be dealt with. 

That whole Dutta not ratting out on Kala in front of the villagers was SUCH an interesting touch! I really liked how Dutta also wanted to keep this between the family only. A very intelligent, mature, respectful, and compassionate decision by Dutta there. I know we keep repeating this...but what an evolution it's been for Dutta's character na? Would we ever have imagined Dutta to take such balanced decisions like this? If this Kala incident had happened at an earlier phase in Dutta's life, we definitely would have seen him loose it completely. Take out his gun on the spot and start roaring like crazy. LOL This time he heard everything, took everyone's perspective, then only at the end...when he really felt helpless and unable to think of anything else did he finally take out his gun. What a change! And really genius on the creatives part to put this touch in to SHOW that evolution in Dutta's character to us! Clap

I also liked how all the characters were included into this conclusion point. Like everyone got their due somehow. Even Madhu remembered her dad finally. LOL Though yeah, that 'dad' bit was REALLY jarring. *shudders at the memory*. This girl had a really weird way of saying 'dad'...Confused

REALLY liked how the shaadi perspective was brought in too. Thumbs UpBoth Leela-Suds and Kishore-Kala's respective marriages. Again, a nice touch to bring this into perspective at this point. I liked Kishore's dialogue. And also Kala's dialogue about Suds' being a kameena since forever. :P ROFL Well, someone had to say it. :P 

 From Dutta's perspective it was totally understandable that he would forgive Suds for his sister. LOVED the way MR enacted that part too..that responding to Leela as if he knew what was coming almost. So genius. Clap And LOVED Baaji's reaction to that too. LOL I think Baaji pretty much reacted the way any one of us would be feeling towards Suds being forgiven. But I will never understand Leela. Why in the heck would she herself want to live with a looser like Suds is beyond me. Wacko On one hand she blames Kala for using her sisters and all that, and then she forgives Suds for doing the very same thing? Didn't he also use his relationships, his wife for his greedy/selfish reasons? How can you possibly continue living with such a man? Weirdness. Wacko 

So, what I really found interesting in this episode too was Kala. Like Neets mentioned already, how she was just reacting to everyone else, waiting for things to happen. We haven't really seen Kala like this before ever. She has always made plans...been the cause of all the action. So it was a change to see her at the receiving end for once. Nothing was in her control anymore. Her fate was dependent on her entire family for once. She was still Kala with her taunts and stuff of course. LOL But I found that this time her taunts also were more defensive in a way. Instead of offensive. Usually Kala is a master at finding exactly what triggers her opponent and really 'attacking' them verbally with that. This time her taunts were more defensive I felt. Like the shaadi bit, and the bit where she jumps at Madhu defensively reminding her that "your dad was the one who killed my dad". Very interesting side to Kala too. Thumbs Up

Finally the precap...felt kind of sudden/random to me. Though the DN scene looks amazingly sweet as always. Kind of weird of the family members though, to decorate their room and all in a situation like this. They've just gone through something so drastic...you need time to adjust to 'normalcy' again. How can you go about doing stuff like decorating rooms and all at a time like this!?? Confused I would like it if DN talk and share stuff more than anything else in that scene tomorrow. Day Dreaming 

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The epi had a lot of powerful moments mainly thanks to MR, AG and the dialogues like Fatty pointed out flow was definitely an issue......

I agree with Param's point about how the villagers returning with their naarebaazi changed the tone of the scene from that almost one on one that Kala-Dutta were having.....but then they wanted to show the whole funda of how ppl instantly respect and venerate Dutta so much.....more randomly hilarious was the BGs chanting for forgiveness......rofl

It would be repetitive to say it and hard to pinpoint every moment in the epi but there were just too many WOW moments acting-wise to count.....in the first scene where Dutta tells her that everything has left her saath and the defiant way in which Kala keeps pressing the trigger in a futile manner with those tears in her eyes.


The shifting of base to PN....Kala more composed now.....lol....and just the way MR commanded that scene at the outset.....amazing....this guy's body language is just something else.....the way he was looking at Kala throughout as he portrayed such an array of emotions....but always that sadness....that sheen of tears in his eyes at what she is....how she could do all this and is defiant till the end.....I can't even describe that emotion fully....sadness, a bit of pity, regret that she had to bring their relationships to this, anger, hurt.....a lot there.

Then there's Kala on the other end....defiant, proud, smug till the end.....just the way we like her....lol....loved all the dialogues in this bit like everyone pointed out.

Suds is such a weasel.....anyone who can fall for that kind of "prayishchit" act.....I have no words.....deffo rushed writing and the only really contrived part of the epi....Leela is a dumbass too for this......liked Baaji's W*F expression when Leela agreed and even Dutta agreed cuz of Leela.....lol

The last scene was dragged in comparison to the first one for sure....and I felt that the end with Dutta talking to Nakku and saying look at this woman who did all this to us.....what was the POINT of that dialogue?? Nakku had NOTHING to say in this epi.....just staring wide mouthed at Kala in that scene too.....what are they doing to MV? I'm eerily reminded of the DP track when Nakku/MV went in the same BLANK mode for a bit. And then again Dutta repeating the same line about AS bolo kaunsi sazaa deni hai......felt odd.

Anyways liked how he pulled out the gun and pointed it at Kala.....FABBB expressions by MR-AG in this bit.


As for the precap.....MR/Dutta's bit seems sweet but MV is like MEGA BLANK.....what is WRONG with her?Confused  Is she seriously ill or something?


@ blue - Ya, Dutta was actually mouthing stuff which she was "dying" to hear since ages, and today he was saying all that "with his eyesight back" and she is just standing and listening as if he is saying some "regular" stuff Confused.

@ red - Ya even I thought so. Even I was wondering what was Dutta's purpose of saying that dialogue to Nakku Confused, I thought maybe he was asking her for Kala's punishment, the way he asked AS the same thing. But no, he again went back to AS and asked her the SAME thing a second time Confused. Nakku's expression to Dutta's dialogue was as though "main kya bolegi saab" LOL. This was the real situation which required THAT dialogue of hers LOL. Then maybe Dutta might have re-considered his question and thought to himself  "oh ya, ACTUALLY yeh kya bolegi?!" LOL.




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