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Posted: 20 March 2011 at 2:24am | IP Logged
Originally posted by neerjashingla

 Tomorrow episode or few  more coming ,  but as tracks are on a fast mode, will play a decisive  role,  what turn the story is going to take.......In CB 1 where was the cast factor ,  at least not in PH, when radhika is not allowed to go to Phool  Bangla than Dev opposed and so did the other members...Coming days will make the things clear if PH is really serious about CB2...Dev being quite about Radhika was odd when he was telling Rohan about her,   even Rohan just went away..... but there is reason for that , as Rohan is going to meet Radhika as his would be wife....

Yes in CB1 the caste factor was there but the purohits specially dadima and Dev were opposed to it. Vaishali due to her insecurities got caught up in it. But here since we don't know anything about the purohits we don't know what they think.........its only the badi bahu and her son whose character have been shown the most and it looks like that they are with the caste system.

You are right that Dev did not tell Rohan about Radhika because he is going to meet Radhika as is would be wife..........but here again they changed Dev for this to happen. Till few days back he was telling Rohan about Radhika but now he isn't.

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Posted: 20 March 2011 at 4:42am | IP Logged
 Now they should show relations between other members of RP, family...Rohan and Viraat relations are not so clear now, here may not reply him back as he is elder brother...Whatever Viraat says he obeys....He is pally with Dev because they are almost in  the same age-group....Focus should be RPs,....They have done something with Viraat,s character , now have pleasant face... following her mother,s foot-steps, you do not look evil if you are in negative role....Why his wife is looking so artificial when ever she opens her mouth...In this family bonding is missing..Production House and the Channels should make efforts to do away with the social evils which push us backward , they can imbibe the objections through their track...

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Posted: 20 March 2011 at 8:24am | IP Logged
Originally posted by neerjashingla

 Now they should show relations between other members of RP, family...Rohan and Viraat relations are not so clear now, here may not reply him back as he is elder brother...Whatever Viraat says he obeys....He is pally with Dev because they are almost in  the same age-group....Focus should be RPs,....They have done something with Viraat,s character , now have pleasant face... following her mother,s foot-steps, you do not look evil if you are in negative role....Why his wife is looking so artificial when ever she opens her mouth...In this family bonding is missing..Production House and the Channels should make efforts to do away with the social evils which push us backward , they can imbibe the objections through their track...


 Neerja seriously I don't know what the Purohits are about.........after the leap there is so much pingponging going on.........

 

Dev.......has become a ping pong ball now.......

before the leap-he used to do his own work, was friendly with Rohan but also maintained his       distance, was wary of the others, did not like it when people snatch things that he thinks is his

after the leap-his reaction to Viraath is still the same but this time he hides it (this part has been   explained and also ambas role in it)

                       -lives with the family but one does not get the feeling that he is part of the family

                       - as a child was wary of Mahshwari but now things that he is good (ammas role her   has not been shown and without showing that Dev looks like a puppet to me.......someone like Abhay who does  not use his brains, when the creatives have shown that he does use his brains.....he guessed Radhikas discomfort, he is responsible for all the work , he guessed that Chenu is fleecing him)

                       -he is friendly with Rohan whom he has told about this girl that h is searching for,when he meets the girl that he thinks is his dream he rushed home to tell Rohan this....... even tells Rohan that he has fallen in love but then does not tell him that the girl is coming........if you are rushing home to tell your friend that you have met your  dream girl won't you also tell hom that she is coming...why this hesitation? is it because he really does not trust him or is it because Dev has again been changed to introduce the twist that will brng Radhika to the Purhit house. My hunch is that Dev has again been changed to suit another track.....so that is why he is now a ping pong ball to me........and incidently he is also the lead........so the lead does not have a definite character sketch but will be changed as per the tracks.

 

Maheshwari-

Before the leap-- aggresive, loud, greedy, quick to react, basically and open book whom everyone could read

after the leap- exactly the opposite.....manipulative,acts calm and wellspoken, looks and acts generous, but the change is so sudden and so opposite that it is extremely hard to accept for me.

 

Maheshwaris husband-

Before the leap- Not interested in responsibilities and in his own world, knows his limitations,listens to his wife to keep out of trouble but also knows when to shut his ears to his wifes nagging

after the leap- a zombie.........

 

Amba-

Before leap- shrewd, could easily read people

after the leap- stands quietly, nods her head and has not been shown as a person who knows something is wrong but is keeping quiet for a reason........a shrewd person is a shrewd person, that intelligence does not disappear, he or she usually will keep themselves in the background and keep their mouth shut for a reason but since ammas POV is still not shown she is at this point an irritating riddle for me which I have no patience to solve.

 

Padma

before the leap- intelligent, could read people, knows when to answer back and when to keep  interested in who will be the next RP and also not to happy that the badi bahu is the chosen caretaker but accepts it as FILs wish

after the leap-smiling, nodding, making tea.......again like amma an irritating riddle for me


Viraath-

before the leap-Was hot headed, used to throw tantrums, hates Dev and full of air

after the leap-same but suddnenly he has been mellowed down.......maybe as a response to what the mother told him to keep his temper under control..but could not stand the sight of his wife and has been slightly changed to someone who likes his wife.......


Rohan-

before the leap- was friendly with Dev but could also switch sides and star being pally with Virath but did not like when Virat was taking his stuff

after the leap- friendly with Dev but by keeping quiet on friday to me he showed that he can side with Virath if it suits him.......now it remain to be seen whether he also does not like Virath taking his things.......on friday to me he did not like it when Virath questioned Dev about teaching Rohan responsibilities.

 

Mohini- Very artificial and a big question mark

So the  Purohit house is a madhouse to me right now from which I am running away .



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Posted: 20 March 2011 at 10:29am | IP Logged
Misti you have done such a good job in analyzing each one of them.....Very funny stuff is going on, how can your nature changes within one day that is also without showing any reason...there is distance in  viraat and Rohan also.... CB not to be off beat drama , where you have to  interpret the reason for their  so called sudden change in their behaviors or  the intentions and something like , but  they have to show,  their reason for their change in behavior or opinion....Now after your analyzing  you can very well see the difference from the previous one, that was moving smoothly without any hiccups excluding later month......If Radhika kept quite in the temple may be because of nervousness as so many people gathered their and started accusing did not give her chance to speak...And it all went in favour of calculative madam Maheshwari....Yes some what odd was  as done in  fast speed....Problem with me i do not want to get bored with CB as have waited for it, thinking PH will again bring a good  content based soap...want to believe in saying that patience always gives good results...Wait to read you people going on counter thoughts and discussions which you very well put in to words..Because of  CB so many proverbs, idioms and sayings are coming into mind


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Posted: 20 March 2011 at 11:50am | IP Logged
Originally posted by neerjashingla

Misti you have done such a good job in analyzing each one of them.....Very funny stuff is going on, how can your nature changes within one day that is also without showing any reason...there is distance in  viraat and Rohan also.... CB not to be off beat drama , where you have to  interpret the reason for their  so called sudden change in their behaviors or  the intentions and something like , but  they have to show,  their reason for their change in behavior or opinion....Now after your analyzing  you can very well see the difference from the previous one, that was moving smoothly without any hiccups excluding later month......If Radhika kept quite in the temple may be because of nervousness as so many people gathered their and started accusing did not give her chance to speak...And it all went in favour of calculative madam Maheshwari....Yes some what odd was  as done in  fast speed....Problem with me i do not want to get bored with CB as have waited for it, thinking PH will again bring a good  content based soap...want to believe in saying that patience always gives good results...Wait to read you people going on counter thoughts and discussions which you very well put in to words..Because of  CB so many proverbs, idioms and sayings are coming into mind


Neerja after analysing each character I have realised that the two most well etched out characters among the purohits are most probably Rohan and Virath.....one with grey shades and one negative.....and that Dev the main positive male lead has one of the weakest character sketch in this show.

Radhika keeping quiet was ok.....when you are in front of a hostile crowd with a lunatic shouting at you for something you have not done wrong and the others looking at you with a very stern face....the person will be baffled. Radhika did try but that lunatic kept on shouting and did not give her chance to talk and then she was overwhelmed. Radhika is not Imarti that she will charge outright. She has never done to Shanti........Imarti would have made a bhurta of Shanti.


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Posted: 20 March 2011 at 12:21pm | IP Logged
 So true Misti about your bhurta part...If Imarati would have been in Radhika,s place, then God save Mansaram ...One side Imarati, other side  Chhenu and Poor shanti....It would have been fun to watch this circus.... As for Dev,s character its the recent development , where they are not sure about his characterization...Viraat is eldest and hot tempered and Rohan is not going to offend him... But .he is smart one  till now he gave the impression he cares for Dev...They are not going to show proposal part now,think so.......Misti if it is going Pardes way then Apoorva was also like this...It was Shahrukh khan who was  going on correcting his acts.....They should have gone totally Pardes way after the leap , chosen Radhilka for Rohan , then Dev coming to Rawal and so on.....Later on have their own  turns and twists .... progressed with  friendship , turning to love and all the drama., not necessary  follow the whole movie track ...may be they have better track to surprise their viewers now.....


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Originally posted by neerjashingla

 So true Misti about your bhurta part...If Imarati would have been in Radhika,s place, then God save Mansaram ...One side Imarati, other side  Chhenu and Poor shanti....It would have been fun to watch this circus....

Ahh then Mansaram would would have taken sanyas.........Imarti and Chenu fleecing everyone in Rawal.............WinkLOL......I am waiting for Chenu asking Dev to sponsor him in some business........similar to Imarti and Dev in Angies script. Dev would want to impress Radhika by bringing Chenu in the right path.Day Dreaming

 As for Dev,s character its the recent development , where they are not sure about his characterization...Viraat is eldest and hot tempered and Rohan is not going to offend him... But .he is smart one  till now he gave the impression he cares for Dev...They are not going to show proposal part now,think so.......Misti if it is going Pardes way then Apoorva was also like this...It was Shahrukh khan who was  going on correcting his acts.....They should have gone totally Pardes way after the leap , chosen Radhilka for Rohan , then Dev coming to Rawal and so on.....Later on have their own  turns and twists .... progressed with  friendship , turning to love and all the drama., not necessary  follow the whole movie track ...may be they have better track to surprise their viewers now.....

They most probably have changed their track............that might surprise the audience but not sure of the better part.Wink

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Posted: 21 March 2011 at 6:05am | IP Logged
Misti, 

very good analysis of each and every character and how creatives have played with them especially with Dev's character.  At least keep the characters of your leads consistent.  But then they did it with Radhika after the six months and then again on and off in the second year of CB1.  I used to be happy that at least Dev was the only consistent character in CB1 but they ruined him the most in the end.  The only difference is that it did not happen in the first few months until CB1 got established.  Here they are doing it from the end of second week onwards.

I wish the channel and PH can read this analysis and realize their stupidity.  But probably nothing will penetrate their thick skulls until this management remains.  CB is just a cash cow for them and nothing else.

As far as Dev confiding in Rohan is concerned, they are doing it because probably they are not sure of Rohan's characterization either.  So if they want to show him more a nicer guy, he would be shown to realize Dev's feelings for Radhika by correlating it to that girl with a blue chunri.  

The problem is the execution of everything and bad pre-planning.  They had to know beforehand that Maheswari would be shown pushing down Dadaji and taking control.  So one way was to show her as greedy but coldly manipulative from the beginning where she is shown biding time and everyone is unaware of her true nature.  Then they could have shown Dadaji accidentally finding out about her intentions and hence his desire to change his will (something similar to CB1 where Dev's father finds out about Arjun).  Then Maheswari could have shown planning his murder before he signed up everything but only being successful in crippling him.  

Or they show what you have written several times.  Show that there is a simmering resentment against her in the religious places but people are not protesting outright because she has replaced the upper management with her own priests who are loyal to her.  Or that people were unhappy with her handling but have now become satisfied ever since Dev was given incharge of Mutts etc.  But they still state that Dev brought the change.  That in fact would make it easier to be accepted as RP when the time comes.   A woman who was stingy about a measly wheat bag would have to show her small mindedness in other donations and people have to figure that out.  As you said, show that Padma and Amma are still skeptical about it because either they are not sure or one is a widow with no powers and another one is a servant whose intention is to protect Dev.  They can show that Padma is ok with Maheswari choosing a girl for Rohan because she herself wants a quiet conservative girl who can straighten out Rohan.  But in her heart she is questioning Maheswari's motives but is silent about it.

Dev of Friday who is aloof from everyone including Rohan is more understandable, but they are doing it for wrong reasons and hence not sure of his future treatment.   In any case, the story has not moved forward too much and there is still time to improve the script and salvage the show.  But I have doubts based on what DJs and Zee have been doing for one of their other joint project.

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