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Kool's Commentary : March 16 (Page 12)

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Posted: 16 March 2011 at 8:35pm | IP Logged
Parents know when their kids are lying to them or being insincere. It is a built in radar that most parents especially mothers have and when we want to find out the truth most parents use the shock and awe approach knowingly or unknowingly -  ask a "closed" question - one where the answer can only be a Yes or a No - because if you ask an Open Ended Question - the explanations include excuses which are based on other insincerities or convenient half-truths
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Thats EXACTLY what happened today . He was LYING and she caught him even in that fuddy duddy state . Infact Hope he was being EXTREMELY patronizing . I wish she had smacked him .
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So many days he consistently told her he dOES NOT want her in his life .............to GET LOST . Trying to be politically correct he first laid the onus on HER and said Its U who kicked us out .........quite forgtting how he ran away at last moment without telling ANY elder . His expectations that he and his wife wud be WELCOMED were in itself so unrealistic . Then she ACTUALLY started coming around and was going there etc . He THREW her out in FRONT of Dharmesh . In front of SASURAL . Then said vicious things to her coz she slapped Archana when Archana had slapped Shravni EXACTLY in the same way ............unable to hear the fact that Baby Sachu wud perhaps die . That day he BROKE relations with her . Today he matreialised suddenly at Dads behest .......after deprioritizing her AGAIn ...........this time for a TOTAL stranger called MADHURI . Then he started PATRONIZING her . Naturlly she too gave him hurt in return . When u HURT ...........HURT is what u get .
 
Now Manav shud do KRUPA on us viewers . He shud STAY at the KHOLI and tell Archana to SHUT UP if she suggests he shud live with his mom .

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Posted: 16 March 2011 at 8:48pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Tanyaz

Kool, If Manav comes and tells Archana ....' my mother doesn't love me and the only way I can win her love back is by leaving you .. that is not fair at all...
I wish he had not told her this and had taken care of his mother in his own way ...
Obvioussly this is  telling Archana that indirectly she has come between mother and son and I think this will make her feel guilty ..You know she  would do anything  to make him happy ...
Kool , Manav never does anything on his own ...he always makes it looks like it is Archana's decision where it is always his wishes that are being followed ..
I would definitely blame Archana for being stupid  and always foolishly trying to keep him happy but if this happened again then I will feel very very bad for her .....
 
Tanya ........Manav shud NOT go back period . Now he shud stick to his stand ..........he shud go back ONLY with Archana .
 
I am not saying this sarcastically AT ALL . I never wanted them divided .Nor do I want Archana to be Savitas slave with Savita being in control .
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What I wanted .......always ..........was them to do DUTY effortlessly and set an example . They both failed miserably at it . The moment they married and stayed seperate .........her maaika took over and he completely forgot HIS family .
 
He started behaving POLITICALLY CORRECT then . U only told me Maa to go ...I never wanted etc . His wife had to remind him he even HAD a mother .It was HUMARI Vaishu and HUMARI Varsha . Humari Vaishu has shown exactly how HUMAARI she is .........she never bothered to even INFORM him before doing a complaint .
 
This is exactly what happens to people who disregard their real own ........their APNE , and dance after third parties , calling them APNE . Both Manav Archu desrved what they got and will get even more in future .
 
With his stupid strategy he pushed his mom in depression . Archnas fault is only this much .......she sensed Savitas problem and actually had other opinions about handling it ..........see the scene where Manav asked her and Vaishu what I shud do with mom .........Archna had been silent for a long time .She did not agree with Vaishu or Manav AT ALL . But Archanas problem always was and is that she ALWAYS opted to have HIS good opinion above EVERYTHING ELSE . As a wife she chose to side with him although he was WRONG .
 
Today Savita has SUNK in depression and really doesnt care if he comes or no . If in her depressive state she is giving him atrocious conditions .........to drive him away or otherwise ...........they shud be FIRMLY IGNORED .
 
If He LISTENS to Archna now and goes back Archna will be ONCE MORE playing with her marraige .She has already done it once for Shravani . Its WRONG to play with marraige and sacrifice it for OTHERS .
 
So If Archu suggests it ..........she is WRONG .If he listens .........He too is WRONG .
 
Leave Savita ALONE . Its the only way now . Let KISMET take its course .


Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 16 March 2011 at 9:08pm

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Posted: 16 March 2011 at 8:56pm | IP Logged
!!Thanks for the commentary Kools. Seriously miss the humour  now a days. 
The show is just plain disgusting and depressing. WHy do they want to show negativity all the time. ?
What is going to be the result ? 

Just wait and watch. Archu will  decide to stay away from Manav for the sake of Savita. She will ask him to give him a kasam.  Manav will move in with the Ds. HE will live in the true zombie style. Meanwile they might show Archu pregnant. (At least here if they want , the CVs can show some positivity by making savita  better and  shower her love on Archu now that she is preg.  I wonder if they will show this.)  How long does it take for anyone to graduate.Still waiting for Vandu's graduation ceremony. 

Bhavna wants a Potha and not Pothi. !! Gender bias or  is she scared that if it is a pothi it might turn out like Varsha. LOLLOL!!.

Looks like there are no Gynaecs in Bombay??. Why haven't Varsha and Satish seen a doctor?
This show is so unrealistic at times ...most of the times. Wouldn't anyone ask for a second opinion when she is told she cant conceive ??

where is Batat??? I miss you re.!! Pl come back .  Thanks to ur absence , kools doesnt make funny comments anymore.
(Suppose Batats comes home from Amrika  with a Gori?? We can bring the orange shorts again into the lime light.)TongueWinkWink


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Posted: 16 March 2011 at 9:04pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by viram

!!Thanks for the commentary Kools. Seriously miss the humour  now a days. 
The show is just plain disgusting and depressing. WHy do they want to show negativity all the time. ?
What is going to be the result ? What to do viram thers NOTHING left to be humorous about in this DEPRESSING serial .

Just wait and watch. Archu will  decide to stay away from Manav for the sake of Savita. She will ask him to give him a kasam.  Manav will move in with the Ds. HE will live in the true zombie style. Meanwile they might show Archu pregnant. (At least here if they want , the CVs can show some positivity by making savita  better and  shower her love on Archu now that she is preg.  I wonder if they will show this.)  How long does it take for anyone to graduate.Still waiting for Vandu's graduation ceremony. Let Archu do it and see how I blast her . She did it ONCE with Shravni and I blasted her even then .

Bhavna wants a Potha and not Pothi. !! Gender bias or  is she scared that if it is a pothi it might turn out like Varsha. LOLLOL!!.I bet u Satish will want a daughter . He is that type . My hubby too .Always wanted daughters .Smile

Looks like there are no Gynaecs in Bombay??. Why haven't Varsha and Satish seen a doctor?
This show is so unrealistic at times ...most of the times. Wouldn't anyone ask for a second opinion when she is told she cant conceive ??

where is Batat??? I miss you re.!! Pl come back .  Thanks to ur absence , kools doesnt make funny comments anymore.Viram I MISS the chubby devil . He made me LAUGH .
(Suppose Batats comes home from Amrika  with a Gori?? We can bring the orange shorts again into the lime light.)TongueWinkWinkImagine him getting down from the plane with Hawaiin shirt and orange shorts and a panama hat , a Gori on his arm . Looking adoringly at his face of course while he ignores her and looks at his mobile .LOLLOLLOLLOL Oh Batat Batat ! How IFPR forum misses u !




Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 16 March 2011 at 9:04pm

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Posted: 16 March 2011 at 9:11pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by koolsadhu1000

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Tanya ........Manav shud NOT go back period . Now he shud stick to his stand ..........he shud go back ONLY with Archana .
 
You are 100 % right Kool .I know that you would maybe even give the same advise to your brother if he was in this situation ..I don't doubt it at all......
But Kool, I have a nasty gut feeling ..I can only hope that I am wrong ...But I think he has made up his mind ......He has decided that he is eventually going to go back to his mother as she is not well and  he said ' I am all she has ' .
he is going to convince Archana  in his own way .....like always he will make it as it is her decision and he is only doing what she is telling him to do ..She also knowing fully well that this is  what Manav wants me to do ....will go ahead and just do it ....
I don't think she is understanding it right now bu t soon she will know what he is trying to tell her ....
I really really hope I am wrong though ....bu tI think he has already decided ....
 
 
I am not saying this sarcastically AT ALL . I never wanted them divided .Nor do I want Archana to be Savitas slave with Savita being in control .
 
I would love to see Archan going back with manav and taking  care of savita and the family so well that all is Ok ...But as I told you , I have this feeling that manav will leave Archana again .....I  think he has no choice as his mother is sick ..If she was not sick then he would not have even considered  this but he has to now because she is sick and there is this baby also at home ...
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What I wanted .......always ..........was them to do DUTY effortlessly and set an example . They both failed miserably at it . The moment they married and stayed seperate .........her maaika took over and he completely forgot HIS family .
 
I don't agree with you here ..he kept trying bu this mother would  just not listen ..Archana 's parents were  better as they were happ y for archana  and that is why they forgave him ....
Anyway , the reason why Manav is so good to Archu's parents is because he wants to have a very strong bond with Archana ..Archu too  tries to maskaa savita all the time  for manav only ....
 
He started behaving POLITICALLY CORRECT then . U only told me Maa to go ...I never wanted etc . His wife had to remind him he even HAD a mother .It was HUMARI Vaishu and HUMARI Varsha . Humari Vaishu has shown exactly how HUMAARI she is .........she never bothered to even INFORM him before doing a complaint .
 
I  do not approve at all how Manav and Archana tried to take over vaishali 's problems ..Tha twas not right .Sulochna and manohar should have done it ...If , a very big If ......Manav leaves Archana for his mother  then I would love to see satish come and have a hrash word with manav and tell him ...now Archana is my  zimmedari ..
Just like he took his saali as his zimmedari ....someone else should take his wife as his zimmedari ....
 
 
 
With his stupid strategy he pushed his mom in depression . Archnas fault is only this much .......she sensed Savitas problem and actually had other opinions about handling it ..........see the scene where Manav asked her and Vaishu what I shud do with mom .........Archna had been silent for a long time .She did not agree with Vaishu or Manav AT ALL . But Archanas problem always was and is that she ALWAYS opted to have HIS good opinion above EVERYTHING ELSE . As a wife she chose to side with him although he was WRONG .
Archana's biggest strength is her biggest weakness as well....This uncontrollable and insane love that she has for some special people in her life ...Actually only two...first it was her mother and then now it is Manav ...For them she is even ready to break her own rules and lie , be hypocrite , just do whatever it takes but keep them happy .....
that is not right at all....
I have a feeling  she will do this again for manav ....Right now she doesn't know but soon she will know that he wants to be with his mother ....
 
Today She has SUNK in depression and really doesnt care if he comes or no . If in her depressive state she is giving him atrocious conditions .........to drive him away or otherwise ...........they shud be FIRMLY IGNORED .
Ofcourse they should ignore ...but I don't thin k manav will ignore ....
And I thin k savita has been very firm on this condition right from the begining ....
I know she is depressed and unwell now but this is what she has wanted right from the time manav and Shraavni's wedding was called off....
 
If He LISTENS to Archna now and goes back Archna will be ONCE MORE playing with her marraige .She has already done it once for Shravani . Its WRONG to play with marraige and sacrifice it for OTHERS .
I told you , Archana breaks her own rules and is ready to do anythign for  Manav ..she did it before , she will do it again ...For now she is in trouble
 
So If Archu suggests it ..........she is WRONG .If he listens .........He too is WRONG .
He will make her suggest it ..... Like he did with the divorce . Again I will say ...I hope I am wrong ...
 
Leave Savita ALONE . Its the only way now . Let KISMET take its course .
You know very well, that can not happen ....
Manav will just be so miserable an unhappy ...he loves his mother a lot ...hell of a lot ..He said that  he is all she has got .....He wil l neve rleave her ...Not right now but eventually from his actions , Archana wil lsoon know that he wants to be with his  mother ....


Edited by Tanyaz - 17 March 2011 at 4:23am

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Posted: 16 March 2011 at 11:03pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by --Hope--

Originally posted by koolsadhu1000

A sick and immensely tired Savita who was going to sleep at 8 in the night without eating dinner analyzed Manav very accurately even in that fuddled state . She said
1] You have come here NOT coz u LOVE me like before but DUTIFULLY , only after realising that I am seriously sick now .
 
2] This has nothing to do with EHSAAS . U see guys Manav had LIED to her that AB MUJHE EHSAAS ho gaya hai .She accurately replied that EHSAAS BIHSAAS Kuch nahi , its DUTY that called u . A little LATE in the day .
 
3] The bond between u and me is now KHOKLA
 
4] Blood does become thin as Life takes turns ..this is what life taught me
 
Upon which Manav said NO . Its NOT true . I DO love u .
 
Upon which she bluntly asked him ..........Really ? Then will u dump Archana for me ?
 
Upon which Manav remained silent .
 


Kools:

going only on the basis of commentary and update, no energy left to watch this pathethic pathos.

Upon which she bluntly asked him ..........Really ? Then will u dump Archana for me ?

this statement in itself does not make me see her as Cruella de Vil.

Parents know when their kids are lying to them or being insincere. It is a built in radar that most parents especially mothers have and when we want to find out the truth most parents use the shock and awe approach knowingly or unknowingly -  ask a "closed" question - one where the answer can only be a Yes or a No - because if you ask an Open Ended Question - the explanations include excuses which are based on other insincerities or convenient half-truths. Even uneducated parents have this basic skill.

Had Manav really been sincere or had not given up on his mother - instead of walking away and assuming the worst about his mother he would have dug deeper to sift the true feelings/insecurities from the question itself - he would have said "Why mom - you know I would be happy living without either of you - would you want me to be unhappy? Don't you love me enough?  Had he done this I would have thought his plans of making up were sincere becasue he was trying to genuinely communicate and resolve the problem rather than being hypersensitive to anything the woman has to say. 

How she answered that question would have told me if she was Cruella de Vil

u know this is precisely what i thought too..savita basically called his bluff..lets see frm the time the marriage happened for the second time..these two went to savita and said we got married..she yelled,threw things and basically told thm to leave or else she wud..so they left..fine..thn they moved into the Ks place for archu's health reasons..and manav was basically abused verbally almost everyday..thn they finally moved out into a kholi..till now has anything happened which wud make savita love archu?no..thn the infamous bday deal happened..at the end of which her son throws the package deal on her face..let us not forget tht the very same day she herself invites archu to sit on the same table as her just to get her son to spend the bday dinner wid her..thn savita DID start coming arnd..she wud visit thm once in a while coz her son dint care to inform her of the happenings in his life,being too busy catering to the continued abuses of his sasural..and invariably every single time she visited thm she either found her son hanging out wid the same abusive sasural people or the house locked coz he was put hanging out wid thm..one time she left widout even coming inside and her son yelled her name ONCE standing at the door and thn went back in to have halwa..and this is frm the guy who generally runs all across the streets of the city behind his abusive saalis or saas,which am sure even she knows..her son asks her to inaugurate his shop and the woman is ecstatic.tn her husband (Mr.sensitive) throw on her face tht maybe her son dint want her in the first place..she goes to clarify,and their her son tells her tht is was the bahu's meherbani tht she got to cut the red ribbon..thn the final slap on the face was manav's "i am not ur son" dialogue..and even now the son is more concerned abt a police enquiry for madhuri thn his mother losing her senses..and the irony is tht for a change even Mr. sensitive asks his to come immediately..tell me please,which mother is going to NOT tell her son tht he is only fulfilling his duties??and tht all his words of love are only words?yes am playing the devil's advocate here bt i dnt see her condition as a condition,i see it as a way to prove her point..as hope mentioned,if he wanted to CUD have replied and told her he cnt choose and she being his mother SHUD understand tht..vandu had said the same thing sum episodes back and tht HAD resulted in savita calling manav and telling him tht she wanted to discuss this wid him..and manav being the smartest person on earth concluded tht his mother DNST LOVE HIM anymore..if sum1 like damo cud see where she was coming frm how come Mr. perceptive dint get it??


Edited by anu rulz - 16 March 2011 at 11:08pm

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According to the articles as said I hope the track is going in a direction I think which will pave way for Archu to take matter into hands and even make a bold decision of she saying to Manav lets go to D's instead of otherway round. I think its been done to bring Archu into limelight so I think we might see Archu unable to see Manav sorrow makes a bold decision of taking Manav to D's and taking control of situation.Who knows when Savita sent Damo to jail Archu came and gave a session to Savita.I would like to see this in a way that Archu says enough u two now get ur mental block out of ur mind and sort it out kind of thing.Would love to see her take control ,I think Savita would then just keep quiet ,I think Savita needs some one to take control of her take right on her and take care of her which ARchu will do.I hope something like this comes up instead of a pathetic split of Arman...
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^^^^ Anu good post Clap  U summed it all up girl Clap

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