Posted: 15 March 2011 at 2:33pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Dabulls23
Originally posted by naava
Originally posted by Dabulls23It is ULM being so stubborn and trying his best in shoving his wife down mother's throat as a package deal..
ArMan divorced each other after everyone told them not to including Savita...But they made their stupid decisions..
I agree with Jaishankar's post abv...
If ULM spent 1% of the time and energy on Ds or Savita-Sachu that he spends on Archu's family we would not be seeing Savita in this light...I rest my case..
To: Jaishankar and Varsha
i guess by now you all know i disagree with this line of thinking re: the Savita Manav track.. and i am not going to argue the other POV again...but i just want to ask two questions:
@ Jaishankar...you stated: ...those amazing words by Manav "I am not eligible to be ur son "Can't anyone see the difference between "I am not your son" and "I am not eligible to be ur son"
The first one shows a failure on Savita's part which is NOT AT ALL what Manav said...he said HE felt like a failure in being her son because he couldn't make her happy" There is a WORLD of difference between those 2 statements...even the CV's seem to have forgotten what they wrote....
I agree Nava when ULM said I am not good enough to be your son...He was showing his disappointment in not able to make her happy...
@Varsha (Dabulls23) (hope you are the Varsha on the forum
) I guess since the divorce keeps being brought up over and over as the reason for Savita's hatred, is what you and others are really saying is that Savita should never forgive past mistakes and move on?
(it seems also that many on the forum can't forgive them either)..... there is no real hope for them reconciling then. Manav/Archu have not asked in the exact words i guess, but they have indicated it many times, in so many ways...even Archu said 3 times "please forgive me, can you forgive me etc. to Savita...i guess she didn't use the words "divorce" but she said for her mistakes... others' think it was the 2nd jail not the divorce, but also imply that no forgiveness should be extended.. seems hopeless in that light....
Yes started with Manju-Ajit-Rassi in breaking ArMan..Sachu's death, 2nd jailing of Ds family thanks to Manju and her fake statement, divorce against everyone's opinion, many many things which has brought the serial, Savita and some of us the way we feel..
Naava with Archu and Savita there is a huge baggage which Archu brought along since after the first marriage..The day ArMan realizes the mistakes they both have made with all the decisions they have taken as married or divorce couple and admits them to Savita she will forgive and love them back..IBut they yet have not even realized that or admitted to themselves...Soul searching needs to happen on both sides..Not Savita alone but ArMan too.. am not going to go into detail what each one of them did..
I will forgive ArMan the day they show that maturity in their behavior and CVs show them bit normal instead of Mahaan all the time..
I simply have a hard time blaming Archana for things that others in her family did...i certainly don't expect to be blamed for something my brother does, or vice versa... The one that really bothers me is that Archana is responsible for Sachin's death...for goodness sake he was drunk and running down the middle of the road and got hit by a car...Archana was NOT driving the car... I think ArMan HAVE realized and admitted and said to Savita they realized their mistakes..- the divorce certainly being one of the biggest altho i would like to have them say those words...- but.what more can they do??? they have tried over and over and over to show love...to show they made mistakes.....and it's just rejected.
Savita said in today's epi that the problem is the Manav won't do what she tells him to do , that he won't do what she wants ... she is honest...she wants to control him.... how is that ok? should a mother (or anyone) expect others to do what you tell them to do? only what you want? i don't get it. Isn't that very selfish, self centered, controlling and wrong? omg if i acted that way to my children i would be horrified...and i would be the one needing to ask forgiveness not the other way around. AT least you did include Savita in doing some soul searching...(underlined above)...
i'm sorry i know you guys have a good heart and want what is best...but i just cannot wrap my head around this way of looking at it... (neither can you mine i know....