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Posted: 21 March 2011 at 6:54am | IP Logged
My heartful condolences to all those who lost their dear ones. Feel really sad to their conditionss. First of all tsunami now the nuclear plant..Japan's facing a realy huge catastrophe which is natural as well as manmade

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Posted: 21 March 2011 at 10:38pm | IP Logged
 
 
Came across this emotional good bye to a 16 year old.
With Death toll officially 9000 and several missiing there will be endless tears
 
 
For those that die suddenly it is just like going to sleep and never waking up. But those left behind suffer the pain of attachment. Love and memories cannot be forgotten overnight.

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Posted: 24 March 2011 at 10:22pm | IP Logged
I wonder what would have happened if the majority of japanese were monks who simply sat aside and prayed or thought it was all pre-ordained and so did nothing to mitigate the nature-cum-man made disaster !

        

Ten things to learn from Japan...
1. THE CALM
Not a single visual of chest-beating or wild grief. Sorrow itself has been elevated.
2. THE DIGNITY
Disciplined queues for water and groceries. Not a rough word or a crude gesture.
3. THE ABILITY
The incredible architects, for instance. Buildings swayed but didn't fall.
4. THE GRACE
People bought only what they needed for the present, so everybody could get something.
5. THE ORDER
No looting in shops. No honking and no overtaking on the roads. Just understanding.
6. THE SACRIFICE
Fifty workers stayed back to pump sea water in the N-reactors. How will they ever be repaid?
7. THE TENDERNESS
Restaurants cut prices. An unguarded ATM is left alone. The strong cared for the weak.
8. THE TRAINING
The old and the children, everyone knew exactly what to do. And they did just that.
9. THE MEDIA
They showed magnificent restraint in the bulletins. No silly reporters. Only calm reportage.
10. THE CONSCIENCE
When the power went off in a store, people put things back on the shelves and left quietly

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Posted: 24 March 2011 at 10:35pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by angie.4u

I wonder what would have happened if the majority of japanese were monks who simply sat aside and prayed or thought it was all pre-ordained and so did nothing to mitigate the nature-cum-man made disaster !

        

Ten things to learn from Japan...
1. THE CALM
Not a single visual of chest-beating or wild grief. Sorrow itself has been elevated.
2. THE DIGNITY
Disciplined queues for water and groceries. Not a rough word or a crude gesture.
3. THE ABILITY
The incredible architects, for instance. Buildings swayed but didn't fall.
4. THE GRACE
People bought only what they needed for the present, so everybody could get something.
5. THE ORDER
No looting in shops. No honking and no overtaking on the roads. Just understanding.
6. THE SACRIFICE
Fifty workers stayed back to pump sea water in the N-reactors. How will they ever be repaid?
7. THE TENDERNESS
Restaurants cut prices. An unguarded ATM is left alone. The strong cared for the weak.
8. THE TRAINING
The old and the children, everyone knew exactly what to do. And they did just that.
9. THE MEDIA
They showed magnificent restraint in the bulletins. No silly reporters. Only calm reportage.
10. THE CONSCIENCE
When the power went off in a store, people put things back on the shelves and left quietly
Yes we can learn a lot from them.
The way they have behaved sounds like nonattached and disciplined monks.
 
I wonder even if God knows the answer. I know karma can be modified but not completely waived; at times the karma happens but we are saved from the emotional torture and sufferings.
Some enlightened monks know in advance what is to come and will act according to what they are supposed to do. Problem with enlightened persons is that the see death as not necessarily being  bad.
 
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Posted: 24 March 2011 at 10:48pm | IP Logged
^^ Disciplined yes, but i wouldnt say non attached. They did grieve for the dead and lost but did not stop there. They knew that a lot of work was to be done for those that survived and acted in a pragmatic way. we could say that they accepted the situation and moved on the best they could.
I cannot comment on karma in this case.
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Posted: 24 March 2011 at 11:45pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by angie.4u

^^ Disciplined yes, but i wouldnt say non attached. They did grieve for the dead and lost but did not stop there. They knew that a lot of work was to be done for those that survived and acted in a pragmatic way. we could say that they accepted the situation and moved on the best they could.
I cannot comment on karma in this case.
Quakes have rocked many countries and those living in the Quake prone areas know only too well. Every 50 or 100 years they may get a super big one.
That could be the karma of the location too.
 
Just like the little island of Singapore too, a large tsunami is enough to sink us. Has not happened so far but I will not count it out.
 
Yes they were disciplined and stoic too.  For ordinary persons they have done very well. A bit of tears is only natural.
There are  monks who often do not live up to their names and accumulate wealth instead.
 
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Posted: 25 March 2011 at 11:32am | IP Logged
Summer ji, Karma is an abstract concept - a mere philosophy that has no grounding in empirical science. Everybody has the right to maintain and nurture his/her faith but don't think it's wise to use these notions to explain/justify real world phenomenon as there's always a chance that sensibilities and sensitivities of some, particularly those who don't ascribe to ur belief system, can get hurt. Im sure nobody from or in Japan would be amused by or even entertain your idea that seems to convey that Japanese are paying for their past misdeeds.

The argument of "Karma" has as much merit as saying "skirt cause quakes" (as stated in an earlier post) or saying that Dragons are the cause for solar flares - its just an ill-defined, unverifiable view point.

Iin 2008, Sharon Stone gave a similar statement - that China earthquake (that caused abt 80K casualties) might've been due to China's opprssive regime and its Tibettan policy - the statement was considered insensitive, universally condemned and finally she had to tender an apology.


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Posted: 26 March 2011 at 2:46am | IP Logged
Yea not everthing is Fate but all actions have consequences unless we are able to surrender the fruits.
Sadly we are all prisoners of Good n Bad Karma. The universe operates on the principle of karma and as we make our bed so must we lie it.
It could be the karma of a location to have plenty of volcanoes and if we hang around there surely the chances of meeting the Creator is higher.
For Japanese misdeeds of the second world war I am sure it has already been paid for with the Atomic Bomb being dropped in the two locations.
But US too could have overdone it or killed the wrong persons and so more karma would be created.
At this rate sadly our rebirth is guaranteed.

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