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viren's emotional state & y nivi's support needed

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Posted: 10 February 2011 at 6:44am | IP Logged
hey i have been a silent reader of this forum....... but here some ppl dont seem 2 understand wat they (the cv's) are trying 2 show 2 us....so i felt like speaking out......guys pls read this post 2 understand what viren's emotional state is and why right now nivi should be with him n all after getting 2 know d truth bout him... it's quite a long post.... an essay type.... please try 2 read it fully... so dat u guys would be able 2 understand wat the cv's are showing to us......though the track may seem 2 be without any logic or anything.....logic isn't everything in real life n after all this is a drama.... so we shouldnt expect logic....

they arent showing DS or sid or anyone else as wrong ppl  ok.....the consequences of comparing and showering love on one kid n asking the other kid 2 grow up like this kid..... would certainly have a bad impact on d kid....kids even sometimes grown up adults dont like comparing them 2 others......the are trying 2 show realistic stories here.....i feel dat almost viren n nivi are on d same boat.... the thing...nivi had someone 2 teach her values n shower her with love from childhood.... (naintara dadi) but viren didnt have anyone......viren as a kid is shown as a loner....... he considered nivi as his best friend n sid as his idol n role model brother.... if u remember vandana's words 2 sid about viren's childhood.... he did ask her how is sid bhaiya..... even till then the hatred for sid wasn't on a greater level.... it was low.....it must have been jawahar n chanchal filling him with venom n trying 2 turn him against sid......n eventually they must have succeeded ... not knowing the impact of their actions.... that it would not make their son like them but changing his mentality 2wards everyone...... from viren's words.... he didnt have any friend's even in d boarding school.....further making a loner more than ever..... slowly n very slowly the kid would have got traumatized....no friends,parents not with him, no one 2 talk..... the pre teen age is where kids develop all kind of feelings..love(affection towards anyone),hatred n everything... friendship, love from parents n elders etc etc are very important....

viren is completely traumatized...extreme depression has led him 2 dis...... dat he cant see any goodness in himself.... he considers himself bad..... n all the other ppl are good ppl..... and dat good ppl wont like any relationship with him..... whether it's friendship love or even parental love too......viren is right now a kid ..... a completely grown up in size but still a kid at heart person...... to put it in more clear words..... viren is mentally unstable....he wont be able 2 remember any goodness shown 2 him.... in his childhood....showering some love for sometime on d kid.... n after sometime being verly strict with the becoz he didnt study properly or for his mischief......wanting him 2 b like the other kid...... and showering the other kid with all the affection possible.... just becoz he is good in character n good at everything like studies etc.....will affect the kid a lot more than anything.....from d childhood it is clear dat viren has been craving for love of any kind...... parental love.... affection from friend(nivi), concern from his elders......anything.....if he had got at least one of those things.... he woudn't be where he is right now..... according 2 him no one cared for him.....he is blinded by hatred n everything will look like a drama 2 his eyes......even if his parents shower him with genuine love right now wat he wants is...... he wants 2 get back everyting he lost when he was a child....... according 2 him sid took everything away from him.....even his best friend.....his dada saheb n dadimaa's love n everything.....he lsost everything 2 sid ...... he wants 2 gain wat ever he lost.....n he needs 2 get those things one by one slowly 2 overcome his trauma which is gonna take a while for him 2 become normal.....

he shows genuine concern for whom he feels have genuine feelings or concern towards him......... naintara dadi when she first saw him..... after he introduced himself as viren sood 2 her....her immediate thought was how he was crying n how he felt when they took him 2 d hostel...he was surprised at first ...... dat someone cared for him..... it would be good for him dat someone atleast remembered who he was......let alone care for him....... for him..... naintara dadi cared for him..... so he never disrespected her...with letting anyone know he helped for dadi's operation....... becoz even though she is not dat much important 2 him also... but she is one who remembered him n his bitter memory too......when comparing how he treated naintara dadi with his dadi...... his dadi always preferred sid..... not caring for him...... so he tries 2 go against her most of the time..... marriage time confrontation.....trying 2 show nivi as pagal....all the times......he went against his dadi

when he first came 2 know that nivi was d reason dadasaheb was ill he was blinded by revenge dat he is doing wrong n it is his only friend he had in childhood dat he was seeking revenge against....... he experimented with her not even caring about it......dat he is doing something bad.....when he came 2 know dat dis his friend he was doubting the whole thing whether dadasaheb illness could have been caused by his friend nivi....becoz he knew dat his friend nivi wouldnt do anything wrong 2 dada saheb......he knew her very well....... he wanted 2 know whether she had changed...... when he experimented her .... by asking her only keeping her subconscious mind alive n asking questions.... n when nivi answered him truthfully ....he was convinced dat it was his mother who was lying.....

nivi never changed....n with days he confessed his love.....why????? becoz of childhood infatuation ..... he told dat he didnt even know wat dada saheb meant bcoz his whole concentration was on nivi..... trying 2 impress her.....in childhood..... maybe when he proposed 2 her....he may not have really loved her at the moment.... or maybe loved her too.... bcoz his childhood infatuation would have slowly turned into love when he was in hostel.... distance makes the heart grow fonder..... he must have become obsessive about her...during dat time.... like something like when he was in his teenage years n all .....he must have started having feelings for her.....dat would have been lying as an feeling deep buried inside his heart dat he didnt know dat he was in love with nivi..... when he proposed 2 her..... it is clear he didnt want 2 lose her again 2 anyone.... bcoz she told dat she was in love with someone n she got separated from him due 2 a misunderstanding..... he didnt know who it was too.....he didnt want her 2 go back 2 d person.... becoz if her misunderstanding gets cleared with time..... he may lose her 2 someone again...so he told her dat he loved her .. he is clearly more than over possessive about her...... 2 d extreme..... n when he came 2 know dat d person was sid.... he would have been in rage dat it was again sid whom he would have or would be losing 2....... so he started separating nivi from sid..... wanting 2 keep her 2 himself...... even if it meant breaking ties for himself with his family or making her break her ties with her family......

it is like he must have been totally insecure dat he didnt want 2 share her love and affection with anyone....almost like his favourite n most priceless n precious toy or thing would have been snatched away from him if he didnt try 2 keep her for himself... the wedding confrontation......he was more than happy dat nivi was supporting him..... n even if it was a drama too.... he was happy dat she was with him.... cared for him.....taking advantage of the situation.... n wanting her for himself..... keeping her 2 himself....he cleverly manipulated nivi n convinced her 2 marry him in real....... he was more than happy when she agreed 2 it....we thought it was for revenge ......but in reality it was his possesive nature 2wards her.......when nivi gave up her relationship with her dad n supported him instead of going with her dad..... he was extremely surprised....n again took hold of her.... not even wanting 2 let her go even 2 her father....for viren d whole world is his enemy.....with a few exceptions...who are not much important for him.....like yash or naintara dadi or divya they are friends more like aquaintances for him..... even though he cared a little for them....but nivi is d only ray of light for him....so he wants her 2 himself.....he started trying 2 isolate her at the same time gettng revenge on sid by showing sid in a bad light 2 nivi by making him seen as d stalker...... two birds in one stone..... getting nivi totally 2 himself n getting is revenge from sid.....

he was prepared 2 go out of the house all the time... it was nivi who tried 2 keep him tied with the family...during the marriage, muh dikhai, chanchal framing nivi as gold digger, and last but not the least chanchal again trying 2 tagging nivi as a pagal....he infact wanted 2 go out of the house with nivi with him......trying each n evey opportunity 2 get out of the house because his family members or sid may very well try 2 separate him...... he had become very insecure about nivi....dat he was plotting and trying anything 2 take nivi away from everyone....

he is obssessed with nivi..... and in too much love with her..... becoz she had started trusting him n showing lil by lil hints of her starting 2 love him......for him when nivi asked him 2 b her friend..... it was like a child had got his favourite candy n when they got married it was like someone bought the entire chocolate shop for him....his reaction were always like too happy when nivi was trying 2 come close 2 him.....those moments were genuine moments of extreme happiness for him...... we were the ones who thought dat he is doing all these things for revenge for hurting dada saheb.....in yesterday's episode..... him saying dat nivi is free 2 go away from him.....he is preparing himself for another loss.... he said instead of the sood family throwing him away he himself will go away from them.... it had two meanings.... one was the literal meaning n d other was he doesnt want 2 face rejection at the hands of nivi so he askes her 2 go away himself..... he is also testing her during this time....'whether she will stand by him... love him or go away from him like d others....when nivi gives up talking 2 him n goes home defeatedly..... but expecting him 2 come home....d look on viren's face gave evrything away.... dat wat ever he said 2 nivi about his love being a lie is a lie in itself.... d truth is dat he loves her more than anything in dis world.....

isolation n depression are much more bad than any physical hurt or disease.....becoz of being isolated all the time..... viren has become like this..... and
with no one 2 care for him... wat ever he must have learnt from the children in d school must be like getting revenge..... giving tit for tat.....n with a set of parents like jawahar and chanchal....who dont have good values themselves..... they wouldnt have taught him good values....

atleast sid or vandana should have visited him......the whole family is at fault here...... dada saheb for sending him 2 hostel.... yashodara who talks venom or tryng 2 stand up against dada saheb should have stood up for her grandson... she didnt she is at fault.... jawahar n chanchal for being coward for ot standing upto dada saheb n filling viren with venom.... vandana (though she is not much at fault... becoz she is always quiet n doesnt open her mouth at the required time or any time...), sid for being over protective n being overly good with him....always caring n trying 2 please everyone..... n last though the least.....nivi ..... for igoring him in childood n busy with sid....though i wont blame her much.... she must have been having no maturity becoz she was even more little than viren.....n she woudnt have known wat her actions would have been doing 2 viren....at dat time.....

now dada saheb is again making a mistake by throwing him out of the house..... n YD is again making mistake by keeping quite..... vandana too....jawahar..chanchal maybe trying 2 rectify their mistake by asking dada saheb 2 stop him... sid made a mistake by provoking viren 2 come out with the truth...though he said he will try 2 rectify his mistake n help viren.....he is again making the matters worse for him......by bringing out the truth infront of everyone... i think sid's brain only works when it comes 2 save himself.... not for anything else....he always makes the matter more complexed.....nivi made a mistake by hiding the truth ..... he doesnt want sympathy..... from her.... he wants support, love n care....instead of begging dadaji 2 stop him....nivi should support viren in his decision n move out of the house with him... though it may take some time for him 2 believe nivi n her true love and genuine concern n support for him..... eventually he will come out of his shell n accept her n slowly then the family can rectify their mistakes.....

viren isnt asking for sympathy...or is he justifying his actions..... he came out with his truth n lashed out at everyone....for being partial with him...... n isolating him..... he confirmed dat he wanted sid 2 suffer for wat he had suffered earlier....it was tit for tat.. an eye for an eye..... he is justifed for his crimes in his eyes..... which may seem as injustice in or eyes or crimes ...or venom in dada saheb's eyes.....

nivi totally understood him.... but being under pressure is blinking like a deer in headlights.... not knowing wat 2 do is trying 2 stop him..... she wants viren 2 feel the love of the whole family towards him.....wat she doesnt understand is she is d one n only one who is genuine enough for him n he only wants her with him at the time being.... she is right now d closest person 2 him in d entire family.....so he only wants her at the moment..nobody else... if somebody else found out him being the stalker..... they would have definetly misunderstood him.... like sid did..... n sid still didnt understand viren even
after nivi clearly explained it to him....nivi forgiving him or staying with him would be like he wouldnt trade those precious moments he can spend with her than with any one or anything else...not even his mother or father..... becoz it would seem like sympathy 2 him...... that genuine parental care.... also would seem like fake......prioritise his needs...love from d person closest 2 him.... first nivi..... dadasaheb.... dadimaa and his mom n dad... n then sid...something like dis shuld happen..... so nivi shouldnt beg 2 dadasaheb but go with viren....if the going gets tough n dadaji doesnt stop him or if viren wants 2 move out of the house at any cost....some may feel dat we audiences are saying nivi should support him only beoz we need 2 see chemistry n a hot couple....but it's not in dis light .... logically ad person most closest 2 him right now is needed for him n it's nivi.... n dramawise.... they would obviously try 2 show scenes between hubby n wife n her helping him cope up with his problem....right now he needs a friend n dat's his wife , his best friend from childhood.....


when i was going thro some posts .... i read someone post saying dat his actions cant be justified.... trying 2 kill dadaji....(i think he must have known dat sid was there... anyways dada saheb will be protected....so he gave the heavy dose..... inspite knowing dat it will hurt dadaji.....which could have been fatal too)...stalking n hurting nivi.....everything he did.... he did it in a cool mind..... planning so carefully...... how can he be termed as mentally unstable...... even if they are mentally unstable... these ppl are very clever.... use their common sense.... n they would do planning very well..... hide
their feelings n all....very well....dat we wont be able 2 guess dat they are not in their proper state of mind......n a person who tried 2 commit suicide.... trying 2 kill or hurt himself..... it wont come as a shock if they are trying 2 hurt other person , any other person.... near dear ones or acquaintances also....they would feel justified about their actions... though it may seem as crimes....to us.....

try 2 see viren in dis light n u would feel getting an idea about his character....try 2 understand him n u would feel his character sketch

one more thing..... his pshycotic or possessive behaviour wont stop here.... he wont try 2 gain sympathy.... he would still try 2 hurt sid.... trying 2 get revenge from him... in d most unpredictable ways......or he might do anything......viren's character sketch if we try 2 analyse it.... he has been like dis from the day of his entry trying 2 hide his feelings or try 2 get revenge from sid..now dat the mystery bout the stalker is out.... the track may seem predictable only... but picture abhi baak hai ......his character is still intact.....n unique .....so i dont think we need 2 worry about his character being  changed.....

 nivi's character also wont be changed....she isnt having any sympathy or anything for him.....she is also learning from her mistake.... last time she let go of sid... she saw many ppl suffer bcoz of it... n at that time they were only lovers.... n d relationship wasnt deep...but this time the relationship is much deep... being hubby n wife is not just satisfying her hubby or her sasuraal wale's demands.. last time she let go of sid easily.... this time she is married...she knows her duties as a wife......n her rights as his wife n lover ..n would try 2 do her duties properly..... nivi from the start has been a selfless girl n one who respects moral values as well as family sentiments.... so we shouldnt try 2 compare sid n nivi's rift and if she chooses 2 see viren in a different light now.... becoz the whole story is entirely different this time.......she knows her hubby loves her... more than anything in d world.... last time she needed support..... 2 go against a lot of ppl... last time she was fighting for her father's respect n innocence.... last time it was a family feud..... dis time it is nothing like dat....she is fighting for her love...with her husband..... who is confused whether 2 believe her or not or if she would go away from him or something like dat..... if she fights with dada saheb or the family now it would be for viren's place in d home n his self respect...n if the sood family understands d condition of the situation then they would understand nivi this time n maybe support her too for going against the family for a second time..... she is becoming strong not only for herself..... but for her husband n his whole family to...

sorry if i directly or indirectly hurt anyone thro this post...but i tried 2 get the feel of his charcter by trying 2 be in his shoes... n this is how much i understood from the looks of the show....

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Posted: 10 February 2011 at 7:24am | IP Logged

What you said is correct he truly needs  ALL THE EMOTIONAL  SUPPORT, LOVE & CARE . But if you try to be judgmental  he  shdnt  be given any second chance with  NIVI  as what he did to her was not at all fair.

so nivi shouldnt beg 2 dadasaheb but go with viren....if the going gets tough n dadaji doesnt stop him or if viren wants 2 move out of the house at any cost....some may feel dat we audiences are saying nivi should support him only beoz we need 2 see chemistry n a hot couple....but it's not in dis light .... logically ad person most closest 2 him right now is needed for him n it's nivi.... n dramawise.... they would obviously try 2 show scenes between hubby n wife n her helping him cope up with his problem....right now he needs a friend n dat's his wife , his best friend from childhood.....

I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHY SO MUCH SHD BE DONE FOR HIM WHEN HE DID SO MUCH WRONG TO NIVI. HOW CAN NIVI TRUST VIREN WHO DID HER SO MUCH GOOD AND LEAVE A SHELTER JUST FOR HIS SAKE. IT WONT BE CALLED LOVE THEN BUT HER SYMPATHY 

HE SHD ATLEAST PROVE HIMSELF BEFORE NIVI GIVES HIM A SECOND CHANCE.



Edited by anonymous4444 - 10 February 2011 at 7:50am
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Posted: 10 February 2011 at 8:55am | IP Logged
yaar dont try 2 see why he should be given second chance n all ...... d person whom we are talking about is a person who is a victim of emotional suffering depression.... think from ur heart not from ur sound....pls think emotionally not practically....he is not a person who is born evil.... or is evil 2 d core like jawahar or chanchal..... he is person who has all the goodness in d world..... he is hurt... n is in depression n trauma..... she is his drug 2 get back 2 normal..... he needs 2 see nivi support him... n dat is not by begging dadaji 2 make him stay back n all.. he needs a guiding hand 2 show him d right path n love..... he is in need of an emotional support... only nivi can give him dat n if he goes out than nivi should support him n go with him.... leaving him when he needs her the most when all the time he supported her.....dis would make nivi's character selfish..... n he is not her boyfriend or something he is her husband..... life partner is supporting the person n trying 2 make them rectify the other partner's mistake not leave them when they make a mistake or hurt u..... nivi's name's meaning is sacrifice...RS must have chosen the name 2 show that the character does live upto her name....


n rahi baat prove karne ki..... he has proven time n again dat he has loved her..supported her...... it is not like giving a second chance 2 him for being with her as her husband .... it's about being given a second chance as a friend..as a loved one .....getting care from her..... we do forgive our loved ones even if they make mistakes... hurt us dont we?? so he does deserve a second chance

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