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Posted: 10 February 2011 at 6:12pm | IP Logged
Sure Aishu, we're taking all suggestions into account.Smile It's just that people want more diverse characters on the banner because Ramayan is not only about Ram, it is about the journey of other characters like Sita, Hanuman, Lakshman, etc, while same for Krishna Leela. It is not only about Krishna, but about his four parents, Radha, Balram, etc....I guess people want to give equal importance to more than just the main leads.Embarrassed
 
Once the type of banner contest is chosen from the poll, I guess we can proceed from there.

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@Aishu

No to worry at all. You have not offended by a single little word. You are just giving your own views which may or may not match with others' views. Regarding Meera, I don't have any problem like Vrish that she is historical character and others are mythological though the point is logically fully valid. My point was only that much that she is Kaliyug devotee - the only one on whom serial is made. So odd looking in between all other faces. Regarding one character not repeated, I think characters are important so it's fine if Arun Govil is included but Gurumeet is not or vice versa because we claim that we are eventually here for discussing spirituality - contents of the show and not the professionals who become part of the show.


@Janu

Well as I said, I am with your concern about excluding the entire serial because it is someone's source of devotion. Then there is one way out. You can show child Radha Krishna. In that, instead of taking Radha from SK, put child Meera in its place. From the point of view of fan member, she is Meera. From the point of view of any outsider, she is Radha. And after all, Radha & Meera are one and the same. Aditi you can show as Yashoda. Regarding actor excluded, I am still not in agreement with you. If one loves a mythological show for just one actor (rather than liking actors because of the show), then I think it is hard to understand because what is important is content. If someone initiates fight on that issue, then it is not justified. Just a petty concern. If I have to choose between you and my favourite mytho actor on one day to meet, I would pick you. Actors are actors. They need not be pure devotees like most of members over here. Why so much attachment when we are in the spiritual journey to exchange thoughts to balance each other's mind?Shocked Liking actors' performance or even loving them and therefore enjoying the show is fine. But passionate off screen attachment and that too for one or two only!!!!! But anyway. Finally, I am for any type of banner. No problem. What was going on from my side was just intellectual input.


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Posted: 10 February 2011 at 11:44pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by AishuJSKfan

Hi guys! I hope you all don't mind me joining this discussion, but I just had to express some of my own opinions, not wanting to offend any of you already here on this thread.

Firstly, I really want to add Meera to this banner. I mean, we can't take the the meaning of "Mythological" too literally and exclude a lot of the things that are a central part of the belief system. Meera is truly an ICON of bhakti in Hinduism. And because Meera didn't occur thousands of years ago, doesn't mean she can't be a part of this forum and the banner. I mean, the forum was created in the first place to discuss the serials we consider to be a part of it. 

Secondly, I would would wish that we use pictures from the mythological serials rather than the paintings of the deities. That's just me personally, but we mainly discuss mytho shows, make siggies of mytho actors, etc. I agree that it is all about God, but still. And the actors are portraying God's avatars anyway.

And lastly, I don't have a problem with having two or three krishnas, two rams, etc. I mean, don't we spend most of our time discussing the different shows like Jai Shri Krishna AND Shri Krishna? RS and AS Ramayan? It would look so nice if we have both Meghan and Swapnil on the siggy as well as Gurmeet and Arunji. And Lola di's idea sounds perfect. But one single thing to add, what if we showed RadhaKrishna from SK (love Swapnil and Shweta), but Dhriti and Meghan in JSK. I mean, most of the serial was about Dhriti, but there were tons of stages in SK. We can't include all those, but two Krishnas from JSK isn't much.

I hope what I wrote didn't offend anyone. I really really apologize if it did. Cry Its a great idea that we have a poll. We can settle on a final idea easily with that. Smile


Another thought occurred to me after seeing that poll - are animated banners TOTALLY banned on IF?  If not, can we propose an animated banner  that might satisfy everyone?

Here is the idea - have multiple banners created for every serial that we agree on - RS Ramayan, AS Ramayan, RS Krishna, BRC Mahabharat, Ekta KHMK, JSR, Meera, Om Namah Shivaya, Vishnu-puran, Shiva-puran, et al.  Agree on,  say, 8 serials.  Then make 8 static banners for each serial. (Note: animated here doesn't mean a video clip, like in my avi)

At the end of it all, make a GIF of these 8 slides, flipping them @ random, or sequentially, however it's convenient.  The advantages of doing this:
  • It neatly sidesteps the objections of having multiple Krishnas, Hanumans, Sitas, appearing in the same snapshot, and yet portrays all the major Ramas, Krishnas, etc who ever appeared
  • It allows the appearance of characters like Meera from her serial -  if that serial is agreed on - w/o putting her beside that of deities, and making it look really bizarre
Only constraint I'd put if this animated banner was an option - make a list of deities who must appear at least once in one static banner or the other - something minimal like the trinity deities and their consorts - Brahma, Saraswati, Vishnu, Lakshmi, Shiva & Parvati (Sati would be optional).  We could discuss/argue whether Durga is an acceptable substitute for Parvati.

So if this is possible, everybody can be happy.  Oh, and we can even have one of the static composite banners be that of original god pics.

So Lola, Janu, et al, any idea whether animated banners are an option here, given the scope of coverage?

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Posted: 11 February 2011 at 5:39am | IP Logged
Vrish, that's a great idea and I'd totally be in favor if an animated banner, but I talked with Shruti and they're completely banned from IF.Unhappy But I like your idea of making a list of compulsory characters and letting people choose which of them from which serial they select....that way, they have the freedom to put whom they want as well.

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Posted: 11 February 2011 at 5:44am | IP Logged
Originally posted by ShivangBuch

Actors are actors. They need not be pure devotees like most of members over here. Why so much attachment when we are in the spiritual journey to exchange thoughts to balance each other's mind?Shocked Liking actors' performance or even loving them and therefore enjoying the show is fine. But passionate off screen attachment and that too for one or two only!!!!! But anyway. Finally, I am for any type of banner. No problem. What was going on from my side was just intellectual input.
 
Well said, Shivang.ClapClap You made an excellent point, but you know....some members on IF which I've encountered in the past are only 12-13 year olds who first are introduced to puranas through mytho shows because their family is not particularly religious and never taught them these stories themselves....they grow an attachment for the actor more than the divine character they are portraying because they find them attractive, cute, charming, etc, and they become such die-hard fans of the actor that they immediately find it insulting if such an actor is not on the banner or whatnot.....but I don't think we have any particularly young members, do we? Everyone here is at least 15 and above and mature about this actor/character distinction, right? 
 
If so, we can go for the character banner and make a list of required characters like Vrish suggested.

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Posted: 11 February 2011 at 6:46am | IP Logged
Originally posted by JanakiRaghunath

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Actors are actors. They need not be pure devotees like most of members over here. Why so much attachment when we are in the spiritual journey to exchange thoughts to balance each other's mind?Shocked Liking actors' performance or even loving them and therefore enjoying the show is fine. But passionate off screen attachment and that too for one or two only!!!!! But anyway. Finally, I am for any type of banner. No problem. What was going on from my side was just intellectual input.
 
Well said, Shivang.ClapClap You made an excellent point, but you know....some members on IF which I've encountered in the past are only 12-13 year olds who first are introduced to puranas through mytho shows because their family is not particularly religious and never taught them these stories themselves....they grow an attachment for the actor more than the divine character they are portraying because they find them attractive, cute, charming, etc, and they become such die-hard fans of the actor that they immediately find it insulting if such an actor is not on the banner or whatnot.....but I don't think we have any particularly young members, do we? Everyone here is at least 15 and above and mature about this actor/character distinction, right? 
 
If so, we can go for the character banner and make a list of required characters like Vrish suggested.

Definitely Janaki.Thumbs Up Let's do it. Enough of brainstorming done so that no dimension of the topic is missed out and multiple different choices/views/opinions are also gathered. I will still say that since you have willingly and enthusiastically taken the lead always; you, Lola & Aishi may make authoritative final judgment/choice of your own now with the reasonable concern of everybody's source of devotion included and considering all dimensions discussed here now. And yes I understand very well the situation about people's attachment about actors. The reality and also its practical justification. And I also believed and believe the same that our forum has no such member for sure at present. Just wanted to reduce your unnecessary worries and emotional concern and also just took the opportunity to express this particular view of mine too finding appropriate place. Where you are not wrong by slightest, you don't have to worry about others' immaturity.

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Posted: 11 February 2011 at 5:15pm | IP Logged
Guys,
 
My sis Aish suggested something....she says why limit this forum to only puranas? Don't we discuss all sorts of Hindu related topics like saints too? She say she thinks it may be nice if we include Meera, Saibaba, etc in the banner as well, so that newcomers will know that anything Hindu-related is welcome here.
 
I like her idea...what do you guys say? I think Meera and Saibaba really deserve to be included in the banner, as they were great souls and are worshipped by many today. I know people believe Meera to be an incarnation of Radha or Lalitha (some believe Lalitha is a form of Radha so in that way too Meera is Radha) depending on the sources they follow, but even when we have Radha on the banner, Meera is a different character with her own story so I'd like to include her.
 
I would also like to include Saibaba as many Hindus worship him.

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It's obviously up to others, but no offense, but people who worship Saibaba definitionaly fall under the category of cult.  Nah, this is not the definition of mythology, and please stop playing fast & loose w/ the meanings of words: mythology means precisely that: it does not mean living, or  even dead people that people  worship!!!!

Hate to say this, Janu, but so far, I've not seen bad ideas coming from anyone, but I very strongly think this one very much is - again, no offense to you or your sis.  Under this criteria, any godman who walks the streets and has any following would come under it.  If you need to, open a Bhakti section and run it there.


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