Posted: 29 January 2011 at 4:10pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by koolsadhu1000he needs some affirmation like all human beings and he certainly has never gotten it from his mother
It is this way for me naava . There is the mother God gave u and then there is the rest of the world . Mind u , I am not glorifying mothers here ....they r as imperfect as all the human beings in the world . But they r unique in their role as moms with their offsprings . For better or for worse THEY R UR MOMS . They may not be educated , polished , crass , selfish , they may not have affirmative bonds with u either ...........yet they have a unique relationship with u and only u .No other relationship in the world can displace it or fill in for it . Perhaps your wife's mom is a fine understanding lady , yes , YET she cannot take the place of ur crass mom .
For me the Mother is a spirit in a body .........who gives u part of her soul when u stay in her body for 9 months. I don't regard the Mother as a body at all . This spiritual connection is God given , for better or worse , u gotta respect what u have . Its the In thing nowdays to say the woman gave birth to a son coz she had sex with her husband , it was coz she wanted a baby , don't kid urself that she is doing ANY obligation on u . This is the most ungrateful statement of the century on a spiritual level .
Who the hell says they r perfect ? They AREN"T . But we see Rasika coming in barging to throttle Dharmu in giving Ajit's job back to him , and we see Savita rising to Manav's defence although she had gone there initially at Jay's invitation to witness a drama of Manav being thrown out of K house .........while all The Karanjkars remain silent . We see Rasika teaching Manju to NOT TAKE SHIT from her in laws .........its HER WAY of teaching her baby to fend for herself even after she has gone and isnt there to protect her anymore . Thats the mom in Rasika ........its wrong , but what the mother is trying to do is make her baby bold enuf , fit enuf to survive . Dont let Anyone trample over u baby is what the mother is teaching , right or wrong is another perspective . She is Evil to the world , not to her babies .And Thats the spirit of the Mother I talk .........it is irreplaceable and unique . They will hate their bahus but will love their sons . If u r going to give that spirit a message that we come as a packet now mom , it HURTS her . She UNDERSTANDS but She HURTS . And my point is don't OVERDO it . Coz nothing affects the luck factor in a child's life than the blessings or curses of that spirit . Her curses to Archu wont have effect . But if she curses Manav in a moment of pain , yes , it will affect ........as it is the genuine pain of a mother's heart . And currently we see the character in genuine PAIN . That is what i fIRMLY believe .
Hope I didn't bore u .
no, dear you didn't bore me...at all....i think what you said was eloquent and true. i agree with all of it. But to be close to the Sulman doesn't mean that manav is rejecting his mother...i was just explaining why he responded to them... it isn't manav who has rejected savita...he is not expecting her to be perfect...he accepts her as she is, and wants to have relationship with her, but .it is savita who has rejected arman...you might say that she rejects archu but not manav, but you see, stronger than the mother over us is the bond of husband and wife...they are one..and they replace the parent/ child bond. it is the stuff that produces the child...a child doesn't come forth from the mother child relationship, only the husband and wife...it is the strongest of all the bonds. in my eastern spiritual tradition we are instructed to leave our father and mother and join to our wife/husband... that does not mean we are not to honor our parents..quite the opposite...but when savita rejects archu she rejects manav..because he is now NOT manav but truly, spiritually God given ARMAN ( i prefer the man first so MANAR
) maybe hindu tradition on which the show is somewhat based is totally different and therein lies the difference. just a thought..
what i don't understand though di is why you think manav or even arman has not been respectful to savita.. yesterday he should have brought her in and touched her feet for aashirwaad but beyond that i think he/they has stood on his head to show her love....to respect her, he has tried to honor her every which way...she won't allow it. so now he is silent. he doens't know what else to do. he cannot force her to accept his overtures... everytime he goes to the house she screams at them, throws things at them, etc. ...her curses to archana to her bahu DO INDEED hurt her son...she is cursing him when she does that because it is God who put the husband and wife together.. i will give u this, that perhaps manav could go by himself to the house that wouldn't hurt...but the moment he even does that, she immediately badmouths archana....and he did just let her do that for a very long time.... is it wrong for him to not want to keep hearing that from her mouth? Giving birth and being the soul of the mother connected to the child does not give you license to abuse that child.
i know this is really a huge topic for you and i can feel it from the depths of you how important it is at a spiritual and personal level..and i can feel you hurting with savita.... and i respect that Kools... u are a kool daughter .