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Tiyali IF-Rockerz

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Posted: 26 January 2011 at 4:32pm | IP Logged

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Posted: 26 January 2011 at 4:41pm | IP Logged
LOL Yea I got . Thanks .They r welcome dear .Big smile But hey read ALL the posts ull understand me better . if not lets agree to disagree Smile

well, actually i think i have read almost all your posts. ..maybe missed one or two....and i think i do understand you....and as i have also said before.......we need to agree to disagree........i was trying to give some reasons for my disagreement...reasons with which you of course don't agree....  LOL LOL LOL

it seems to me that some of the "discussions" in IF are always about events that we imagine might happen..but haven't really been indicated in the story giving away babies (a point where you and i do definitely AGREE!!!) or Vaishu staying forever at the Arman house and in the chawl...i mean maybe she will maybe she won't but maybe we should wait and see....Shocked

i could address each one of the points you made here with some other's late...and i need to go to nite nite.......

You've got hundreds who agree, and just me who doesn't you should feel very affirmed !!

Hug  and GN ...and let me know when you make the green masala pulao again   Big smile

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Posted: 26 January 2011 at 4:48pm | IP Logged
g8 post kools

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koolsadhu1000 IF-Sizzlerz

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Posted: 26 January 2011 at 4:54pm | IP Logged
tiya I can at the most agree to this night she spends there , then she HAS to be a big girl and go to her parents . She is preg and needs the best suitable care .Manav is financially not well equipped to look after one more additional person at all , however golden hearted he may be .He is heavily unfnder debt ...from Tarun and now Ajits friend . Archna isnt working .He has huge financial; resonsibilities of his own family too ..........whic btw he doesnt seem to be fulfilling .
Finances r NOT Vaishus problem . The Karanjkars r solid middle class folk .not poor like Manav .Dharmu too has ample money , he will provide her for the sake of his child at least if not for anything else .He was providing for Varun although he is a creep . He doesnt seem to be a monster although he is not exactly the best husband in the world right now . He was doing everything in his power for Varun . So why be a burden on the poor sister ? If u need shoulder to cry , visit her there and relieve ur feelings .
The Proofs were there and ample .For gods sake the creep had checked in the same hotel that Satish had given the party ........the manager cud easily remember him for being the customer who threw a tantrum and got Manav kicked out . The Hospital records were there .  He had LIED he was in Bangalore that day .So many proofs only needed to put mind to it .
Why people didnt believe Manav about Jay ? Coz he stupidly walked in a family gathering at a most inopprtune moment WITHOUT ANY CONCRETE PROOF . Just his word , which wasn't so popular at that point . There is a huge difference between that situaion and this .
That said .One doesnt keep quiet about bIGAMY when its ur own sister . One doesnt shirk an unpleasant duty saying oh who will believe me .It means ur perfectly fine with ur sister living in that sick situation for the rest of her life so long as she doesnt find out . And thats not fair .

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Posted: 26 January 2011 at 6:30pm | IP Logged

Hi  Kools

Personally I felt Manav sent Dharmu away cos Vaishali had just been shocked and hurt and he had seen her terrible state. Her mental setup was not fine, and in that state Dharmesh could have said anything to lie or convince her. Vaishali needed time to think things first and calm down- she was not in the state to take decisions for herself at that time, listen or reason enough, she was quite drained- and so he made one for her. He was  trying to protect Vaishu from Dharmu for the night I felt. I didn't find anything grossly wrong here. Maybe her wanted to tell her Madhuri's truth objectively FIRST, before Dharmesh lied to her and made up a sorry story. And for Vaishu to hear this, she needed to calm down first and think with an open mind about 'the other woman'- right now she would have just fumed and shouted hearing Madhuri's name. So he sent Dharmu away. That is what I understood by the way he talked to Dharmu

Even bringing her home, was very Manav and Archana like, if you know what I mean. I understand that best thing would have been to drop Vaishu at her home, but bringing her to the chawl home for one night,  I don't really have a big problem with that. Let her calm down and then go home in the morning to explain to the rest of the family, maybe- she had got a big shock and was drained physically and emotionally, had herself had said that she was tired in every sense, I somehow felt she was not really ready for another confrontation so soon. Doing it in the morning when she was pretty stronger would have been better . As of now, they haven't shown that they brought  her back to live with them.

I don't even have a problem with Manav Archana getting involved in this matter and handling Vaishali. See, I would have wanted Manav-Archana to act distantly and simply drop Vaishali home and make her see their goodness for herself than all those bakwaas dialogues, but that doesn't go with the characters of Manav and Archana. They put their personal differences aside during tragedies and help.And we have to admit, they are heavily involved in the matter now, even with regards to Madhuri. They know what has exactly happened with Madhuri and they can tell Vaishu about it objectively, before Dharmu tries any nasty tricks.

Agree with rest of your points. But I personally felt you went a bit hard on both Manav Archana by saying they like to take charge and play God, many a times, circumstances crop up which leave us a little stunned and we do not know what would be the right decision to make. I agree totally that it would have been better to tell Vaishu the truth earlier, but still, I don't know, I actually felt REALLY bad for Manav Archana when you wrote this. I know there are plenty  of examples you can give to support your words, but seriously I don't know why I just found it grossly wrong. I'm sorry if I hurt you, please don't think I'm trying to bash you. 

Edited by nikitagmc - 26 January 2011 at 6:50pm

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Posted: 26 January 2011 at 6:37pm | IP Logged

I don't blame Manav for stopping Dharmesh from talking to Vaishali, she was in no condition to speak. She is still in shock and isn't thinking. Dharmesh has a lot of nerve to still be arrogant and be a bully. His lies being exposed have not changed him in the least bit.

I am glad that Vaishali went home with Manav and Archana, she needed to realize her mistake and she did. The one she trusted blindly betrayed her while the one she stopped trusting is the one who is with her today. I just hope she never goes back to Dharmesh, not after the way he decieved her.

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nikitagmc IF-Sizzlerz

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Posted: 26 January 2011 at 6:38pm | IP Logged
added more points to post above.
viram Senior Member

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Posted: 26 January 2011 at 7:08pm | IP Logged
Great Comments Kools.
Dharmu running on the Dombivili roads and losing two kilos !!! Wow . 
He should in fact thank Manav for lodging the complaint in thefirst place. Or else who wud lose so much in a  night!!??Wink
Agree with most of ur points but do not agree with the following one on vaishu and her child.

Did he even wonder if Vaishali WANTED the baby ? What if Vaishali was PRO CHOICE where the issue of abortion was concerned ? Manav and Archu r clearly ANTI ABORTION but then thats THEIR personal choice .What if Vaishali was pro choice like Varsha and wud have preffered opting to abort , make a clean break and start afresh by remarrying or something ? Thats HER CHOICE TO MAKE , NOT ARMAN"S . Wasn't she entitled to know as early as possible so she cud have that choice ?

Weren't we all livid when Varsha aborted her child ? Didnt we all sympathise with the unborn soul ? Your statement suggests that if Vaishu had wanted she could have aborted the child.  Whether Varsha , Shravni or vaishu do it,  abortion is totally unjustified. Perhaps it is justified ( I  shudder to think ) in cases where mentally deranged women are impregnated and in case of rape victims who may not be in the right frame of mind to accept the baby. 

Even if Vaishu tired to do something like that Arman have every right to  stop her from doing it. After all such hasty decisions taken in a fiit of anger might make on regret later just as in Varshu's case. 

My take is that Vaishu has no right to abort the baby.  

Yes Archu may be right in not telling her owing to  her initial stages of pregnanacy, but she shud have told her parents at least.This is something that shudnt have been hidden.

Sorry if I have offended  you with my POV. HAv a nice  day.

Edited by viram - 26 January 2011 at 7:11pm

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