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Posted: 28 January 2011 at 2:13pm | IP Logged
Hey girls, I am honored .. thanks for liking my thoughts.. it is your comments and love that makes me do it....
Hi Moni,, aww...how are you dear.. how was your trip and how did you survive without CCBM? Send me PM with details of your trip.
I read your analysis today...Thanks hun...You do full justice to NiVren scenes...

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Posted: 28 January 2011 at 2:21pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by anjubala

Originally posted by zarmeeno

Thanks Payal and Simran for liking my posts. U guys r too sweet.
 
Mythri loved ur post and u did explain beautifully the relationships that r shown in CCBM. But honestly more than anyother character I'm in just love with NT daadi.. The way she explain things it is amazing and Sarita joshi plays the part with such ease and beautifully. But hats off to the CT's for giving us such a character.
 
Anju as Payal and I were discussing yesterday that there is no perfect marriage but we c lot of gr8 marriages and Nivren marriage will be the same. It is not and will not be perfect but we r all sure that it will be a gr8 one and we will be with them enjoying and sharing every bit of their beautiful moments of thsi gr8 marriage.
 
Yes Zarmeen, I agree. GOD has not made anyone perfect so there cannot be a perfect marriage but yes there are successful and great marriages. And I am with you totally that we will be sharing every bit of NiVren's journey towards this great marriage. Right now I am waiting for next week already to see how Nivi will find out about Viren and how will she confront him. She has made all these promises so let us see how she stands up with these promises. And let us see what reasons Viren gives in his defence.. But first of all I want a nice song and a dance number on DS anniversary and then let the dhamaka happen. Infact I want both the couples to dance - something to show about marriage like "Bole chudiyan bole kangana..."
Wow Anju what beautiful selection of Song and it totally suits their situation

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Ok guys I know this is late and maybe by the time I am posting this there has already been wonderful analysis done But I really loved today's episode and wanted to share what I thought about it so her it is.

I loved today's episode along with yesterday as it holds very meaningful messages and gives us an insight to NivRen future.

Yesterday Nivi's dialogue in the mandir gave us a insight to what Nivi now feels for Viren and her commitment to him and basically shows us a glimpse of what she will do in the future, how she will support her husband and how they will surpass the "badal" that will come in their way. Viren coming inside the mandir just for Nivi's happiness also tells us a lot and that all he is doing is only for her happiness and he will do anything for her even if it is going against his wills.

Today it yet again gave us an overlook to what the future holds for our lovely couple and how they will support each other. I loved the BS and NivRen scene the most from the whole episode as its so meaningful and not only is he giving message and advice to NivRen but also to us and teaches us that NivRen's love will always be for each other, even for 100yr and they will always be together.

 

So the epi starts with where it left us yesterday and begins the show with Viren talking on the phone with the telephone company employer. Ok so I was so glad that Viren was aware of Sid investigating about him. I want Viren to be aware of all these and act accordingly. I find it quite disturbing that after Nivi accused Sid of his doings that only then he is taking some actions, what was he doing before . It just shows what type of person Sid is and he will only investigate or stop a wrong doing if and if only it hurts his ego and honour. I don't want to linger on about Sid as it rises my BP so will stop but seriously I have never seen a person like Sid.

So when Viren says "I didn't know that you will get this much hurt from what Nivi said" Ok so I thought I saw jealousy in those eyes and it just proves to us and viren that Sid has still not been able to forget his past and fully move on. I think this dialogue was meaningful as well and it shows that what viren is doing is only to get Nivi to himself and how much he loves her and doesn't want a third person i.e. Sid to stand in their way. My first reaction hearing that dialogue was "what viren how did u expect that after all that nivi said to Sid, that Sid will stand still" but then I thought and it occurred that he knew Sid will do something about it , maybe a little questioning to nivi or family members. He thought Sid will get deeply hurt which was his motive but Sid will suppress all this and keep quite as not to worry the whole family, but he didn't think that Sid would exceed his limit and start investigating. Cause we have seen in the past that Sid knew about a lot of truth but still he didn't do nothing but after Nivi accusing him he is now trying to find the truth and I guess it just further more proves to viren that Sid has not yet let go of the feelings for Nivi and he can do anything for her and this further enrages Viren and I know Viren will do anything to keep all his doings hidden from Sid's eyes, but my fear is for how long. Then our beautiful Nivi comes with her radiant smile which lights up the screen and also Viren's and our hearts and they head home.

 

 

Living room scene- Loved the way NivRen walked together into the house. Seeing them together no days just keeps on reinforcing that they will be together always. Ok so when Viren asks to his dear tayiji that Sid dint phone you yet, I think he is just making sure if anything about this whole issue has gone into the ears of the whole family but when he realises that Sid has kept quite once again about what he is doing viren is relived and  has a slights smile and heads down to sit on the sofa.  The look exchange between CC and Viren once again showed the distance that has been created between these two and CC now doesn't understand Viren at all. I loved Nivi's look and facial expression when Sid came in and Sid looked awesome with his hurt face ehehhe. Then we see our cunning sweetu thinking about his next move on Sid. Man his eyes they hold love and so much pain at the same time. Is it just me or do u girls also love it when he narrows his eyes lolz.

 

SidDivya scene- I really loved how DD blasted Sid today. I hope he leant some lesson and for the first time I really loved DD. I totally support what she said to Sid and what she said was 100% correct, they are married now so he need to give her time. She also understood that his important work involves Nivi and I don't blame DD anger and I think its justifiable. If I was in DD place I would et angry at my husband too. Sid need to give importance to DD now and share all his worries and talks with her but instead he neglects her. When DD said to Sid that I will come back only when you need me, when you call me, that dialogue reminded me of what viren told Nivi. It shows that both couples are going through the same things but in a very different manner and have different ways of handling the situations, one is successful and the other not so much. NivRen were successful as Viren's way of persuading Nivi was very smart and he found his way to her hearts and NivRen always had good communication. But SidDivya well both are hot tempered and Sid never even tries to give anything to the relationship so it lacks communication.

 

Bedroom NivRen scene- here don't want to go in details but basically our cunning handsome fox has come up with a plan for the 50th marriage anniversary and he want Sid to be their to make his plan work. I really am loving the way Viren narrows his eyes when he is planning things looks so damn hot lolz.

 

Dadaji and NivRen scene- This is the most important and meaningful scene in the whole entire episode like I said in the beginning. So we see our loving betti and our handsome Nakkhar (how ever u spell that lolz) with Dadaji. Ok the thing I love apart from the dialogue is how the smiles of Nivi and Viren just lights up the whole room. Oh my look at Nivi's smile is it just me or are u guys also falling in love with her smile and her happy and cheery face. Man im loving this bubbly and happy nivi, we got our nivi back after along time and all credit goes to our Nakkhar. So when viren says "50 years Dadaji my wife was suffocating in 50 days" we get this eyebrow wiggling from our hottie Nakkhar and man does it look good or what, ahhhh falling more in love and I loved it how Nivi hit him it shows how close they have become and with love also their friendship has increased as well.

Ok so when Dadaji says " when people live together for this long its not called marriage its called life" well Viren looks at Nivi again indicating Nivi is his Zindagee and Nivi also gives a side glance, so sweet.

"keep on remembering good memories and bad memories forget them, never think that life will only be happy and easy but when you spend some bad times together then only then you will be able to come close to each other, you will be able to understand each others strength and weakness, and become each others strength cause the third person whoever it is how ever he is, is always a third person. You have to trust each other and trust that trust, the more you can do this then why 50 years 100 years can also be full fills. Love and respect is the only two things that make a relationship strong and unbreakable, never do less of these things" such a meaningful message to all of us and to Viren and Nivi. This will be their Motto for the tough times and Dadaji has given a very important advice to NivRen for their tough times to come. Through out this whole dialogue Viren was looking at Nivi and all that time we could see he was mentally taking down all this advice and promising himself that he will do just that and that their relationship will always be strong and unbreakable. You could see the love in his eyes for Nivi and it was so evident in this scene that what Dadaji said is so true for NivRen and Both will do just that and never distant themselves from each other. While Nivi verbally said she promises that she will be Viren's strength, his power and always support him, Viren also mentally promises the same thing for Nivi. When Nivi says she promises all this look at Viren, he was so happy, so in love with her and this is all he want her support her love her trust. This Dadaji dialogue pretty much proves what Nivi and Viren will do for each other and now that they have promised one another they will be able to fight together and support and trust each other for the tough time to come. Here the CTs also gives us a message of trust and tell us to also trust our love for both Nivi and Viren and support them no matter what.

 

Ok hope you liked it and please do comment.

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Posted: 28 January 2011 at 2:50pm | IP Logged
Hey Shova, Hug how r u sweetie?

Amazing analysis sweetie. Loved the way you have described each and every scene, especially the dadaji-NiVren scene. You done an excellent job of dissecting that scene. I felt bad for DD today but at same time I got pissed too as she was again blaming Nivi for her unhappiness without thinking. I don't have any words for Sid, he already have PHD in 100 ways to break promises. Oh just can't get enough of Nivi's smile yaar, she looked really pretty today.


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Originally posted by NivRenDeewani

Ok guys I know this is late and maybe by the time I am posting this there has already been wonderful analysis done But I really loved today's episode and wanted to share what I thought about it so her it is.

I loved today's episode along with yesterday as it holds very meaningful messages and gives us an insight to NivRen future.

Yesterday Nivi's dialogue in the mandir gave us a insight to what Nivi now feels for Viren and her commitment to him and basically shows us a glimpse of what she will do in the future, how she will support her husband and how they will surpass the "badal" that will come in their way. Viren coming inside the mandir just for Nivi's happiness also tells us a lot and that all he is doing is only for her happiness and he will do anything for her even if it is going against his wills.

Today it yet again gave us an overlook to what the future holds for our lovely couple and how they will support each other. I loved the BS and NivRen scene the most from the whole episode as its so meaningful and not only is he giving message and advice to NivRen but also to us and teaches us that NivRen's love will always be for each other, even for 100yr and they will always be together.

 

So the epi starts with where it left us yesterday and begins the show with Viren talking on the phone with the telephone company employer. Ok so I was so glad that Viren was aware of Sid investigating about him. I want Viren to be aware of all these and act accordingly. I find it quite disturbing that after Nivi accused Sid of his doings that only then he is taking some actions, what was he doing before . It just shows what type of person Sid is and he will only investigate or stop a wrong doing if and if only it hurts his ego and honour. I don't want to linger on about Sid as it rises my BP so will stop but seriously I have never seen a person like Sid.

So when Viren says "I didn't know that you will get this much hurt from what Nivi said" Ok so I thought I saw jealousy in those eyes and it just proves to us and viren that Sid has still not been able to forget his past and fully move on. I think this dialogue was meaningful as well and it shows that what viren is doing is only to get Nivi to himself and how much he loves her and doesn't want a third person i.e. Sid to stand in their way. My first reaction hearing that dialogue was "what viren how did u expect that after all that nivi said to Sid, that Sid will stand still" but then I thought and it occurred that he knew Sid will do something about it , maybe a little questioning to nivi or family members. He thought Sid will get deeply hurt which was his motive but Sid will suppress all this and keep quite as not to worry the whole family, but he didn't think that Sid would exceed his limit and start investigating. Cause we have seen in the past that Sid knew about a lot of truth but still he didn't do nothing but after Nivi accusing him he is now trying to find the truth and I guess it just further more proves to viren that Sid has not yet let go of the feelings for Nivi and he can do anything for her and this further enrages Viren and I know Viren will do anything to keep all his doings hidden from Sid's eyes, but my fear is for how long. Then our beautiful Nivi comes with her radiant smile which lights up the screen and also Viren's and our hearts and they head home.

 

 

Living room scene- Loved the way NivRen walked together into the house. Seeing them together no days just keeps on reinforcing that they will be together always. Ok so when Viren asks to his dear tayiji that Sid dint phone you yet, I think he is just making sure if anything about this whole issue has gone into the ears of the whole family but when he realises that Sid has kept quite once again about what he is doing viren is relived and  has a slights smile and heads down to sit on the sofa.  The look exchange between CC and Viren once again showed the distance that has been created between these two and CC now doesn't understand Viren at all. I loved Nivi's look and facial expression when Sid came in and Sid looked awesome with his hurt face ehehhe. Then we see our cunning sweetu thinking about his next move on Sid. Man his eyes they hold love and so much pain at the same time. Is it just me or do u girls also love it when he narrows his eyes lolz.

 

SidDivya scene- I really loved how DD blasted Sid today. I hope he leant some lesson and for the first time I really loved DD. I totally support what she said to Sid and what she said was 100% correct, they are married now so he need to give her time. She also understood that his important work involves Nivi and I don't blame DD anger and I think its justifiable. If I was in DD place I would et angry at my husband too. Sid need to give importance to DD now and share all his worries and talks with her but instead he neglects her. When DD said to Sid that I will come back only when you need me, when you call me, that dialogue reminded me of what viren told Nivi. It shows that both couples are going through the same things but in a very different manner and have different ways of handling the situations, one is successful and the other not so much. NivRen were successful as Viren's way of persuading Nivi was very smart and he found his way to her hearts and NivRen always had good communication. But SidDivya well both are hot tempered and Sid never even tries to give anything to the relationship so it lacks communication.

 

Bedroom NivRen scene- here don't want to go in details but basically our cunning handsome fox has come up with a plan for the 50th marriage anniversary and he want Sid to be their to make his plan work. I really am loving the way Viren narrows his eyes when he is planning things looks so damn hot lolz.

 

Dadaji and NivRen scene- This is the most important and meaningful scene in the whole entire episode like I said in the beginning. So we see our loving betti and our handsome Nakkhar (how ever u spell that lolz) with Dadaji. Ok the thing I love apart from the dialogue is how the smiles of Nivi and Viren just lights up the whole room. Oh my look at Nivi's smile is it just me or are u guys also falling in love with her smile and her happy and cheery face. Man im loving this bubbly and happy nivi, we got our nivi back after along time and all credit goes to our Nakkhar. So when viren says "50 years Dadaji my wife was suffocating in 50 days" we get this eyebrow wiggling from our hottie Nakkhar and man does it look good or what, ahhhh falling more in love and I loved it how Nivi hit him it shows how close they have become and with love also their friendship has increased as well.

Ok so when Dadaji says " when people live together for this long its not called marriage its called life" well Viren looks at Nivi again indicating Nivi is his Zindagee and Nivi also gives a side glance, so sweet.

"keep on remembering good memories and bad memories forget them, never think that life will only be happy and easy but when you spend some bad times together then only then you will be able to come close to each other, you will be able to understand each others strength and weakness, and become each others strength cause the third person whoever it is how ever he is, is always a third person. You have to trust each other and trust that trust, the more you can do this then why 50 years 100 years can also be full fills. Love and respect is the only two things that make a relationship strong and unbreakable, never do less of these things" such a meaningful message to all of us and to Viren and Nivi. This will be their Motto for the tough times and Dadaji has given a very important advice to NivRen for their tough times to come. Through out this whole dialogue Viren was looking at Nivi and all that time we could see he was mentally taking down all this advice and promising himself that he will do just that and that their relationship will always be strong and unbreakable. You could see the love in his eyes for Nivi and it was so evident in this scene that what Dadaji said is so true for NivRen and Both will do just that and never distant themselves from each other. While Nivi verbally said she promises that she will be Viren's strength, his power and always support him, Viren also mentally promises the same thing for Nivi. When Nivi says she promises all this look at Viren, he was so happy, so in love with her and this is all he want her support her love her trust. This Dadaji dialogue pretty much proves what Nivi and Viren will do for each other and now that they have promised one another they will be able to fight together and support and trust each other for the tough time to come. Here the CTs also gives us a message of trust and tell us to also trust our love for both Nivi and Viren and support them no matter what.

 

Ok hope you liked it and please do comment.


Heyy brilliant analysis, very effective. great job hun x

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Hello Everyoneeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!
How are you all doing???
Why's the forum so quiet for???
 
Achaa chalo, I'll try to liven it up a tad Wink ...
Soo, I'll watch today's episode and give my verdict on it!
OOOOOOOO, ANOTHER SP ARTICLE.
Well, either way, I'd be glad if NivRen sort out their own problems, that way, the grown fundamentally even more stronger, and have a mature relationship. The last thing we want is NivRen getting taunted by the Sood's, saying "Dekha, shaadi karne ka ye nateeja" ..
But above that, they'll understand each other even more, something a relationship needs, and with that, will grow their love and affection. No 3rd party is needed here ...
 
ANYWAY, I SHALL BE BACK!!!
KEEP SMILING! Big smile

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hey anju, zarmeen, ketty n all - what do you think of this post we were discussing yday. we did not see you hit the like button so maybe you have not read it yet.

Simran:
i doubt it babe. Viren's hatred is too deep. ..thats what i feel. maybe there is history and then he went to boarding school and forgot many things and like we have said..when he saw nivi and sid..all came back..maybe that can be the story

do you guys remember the wedding mandir scene.

In that scene.Viren says..Main Natak Nahin kar raha hu..Maine Jo Vaada Kiya Hai ..usse Nibha raha hu..

What vada?? the one he did in the Sood house in front of everyone?? or some old childhood vaada? i am confused. he had lot of deep voice n meaning in that statement. ..not something shallow. like it has been on his mind and his destiny for ever...

plz tell me ur thoughts. 

Payal:
Hey Simran, to give you an honest answer, I think it is more wishful thinking on my part. I was thinking and hoping about the reason to be this and then Navz's brilliant post today made me really start thinking it to be true. But you are right, the way it is being depicted, it seems that there is a huge bad incident with Sid that is guiding his hatred. And, the vada that you are mentioning in the scene before their wedding ceremony, I think he was clearly referring to the vada that he took to marry her in front of the Sood family. But again, you could be right! There could be a hidden more deeper meaning to that statement that he passed. That's the thing about this show, isn't it, there are just so many underline implications! 

Simran:

Because if he does not remember her..then why would he say.

"Main toh hamesha se hi tumara tha...tumhe apana bana ne ke liye....bahoot time..etc " 

why hamesha se?? so its means since childhood

and hence I think Viren was Nivi's secret Admirer since childhood. He would draw her pictures, keep her fav keepsakes, give her small things like paper boat etc. etc.

but Sid could not bear Viren doing all this for Nivi. So, what he did. He framed Viren to push him away from Nivi.

and thats why Sid does not want to remember those days. When Nivi use to play lot more with Viren and how Nivi was Viren's friend. ..he does not want to give any importance..and hence Sid has blocked this episode from his brain.

then viren went to boarding..and Sid and Nivi were left alone to be friends. from that day onwards Sid made new memories and now only remembers that. Its almost as if he has made himself forget Viren from his past because he did not like VIren..even tough Viren liked Sid. 

Payal:
You know what Simran, I really wish that the theory that you have mentioned above comes true. I really wish it pans out like that but my only question is then why doesn't Nivedita remember Viren from her childhood. It's as if for her when she was a child, he didn't even exist?

Simran:

That's the only thing that makes Sense to me. 

and see even VD is not aware that Sid does not remember everything. Only Sid know and feels that he does not remember anything and thats why never mentioned his name when he came back to shimla.

everyone forgot viren. he made them forget viren.

thats the only reason I can think of Sid's STML. otherwise I don't know how CT will show you. When we go through pain ...we try to block it..and one way ..is it to forget all that happened ....so it does not give us any pain... many ppl do that. when we lose parents etc..we block that pain by forgetting that memory that gives us pain. maybe sid did that.  

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Simi I don't know why Sid doesn't remember Viren as kid, that's most absurd thing I ever heard that you can't remember anything about your brother who is just few months younger than you. And about whether Viren knew Nivi from childhood or not, I think I will wait for Viren's past to get revealed. I just hope that whatever reason Viren is taking revenge on Sid, that reason has to be good enough for Nivi and also for us to forgive him and still support him. 

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