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Posted: 27 January 2011 at 10:53am | IP Logged
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Originally posted by LuvPremeer4ever


Finally...someone defends D's Nakku Smile
I thought I was the only crazy one who kinda enjoyed some bits and pieces of Nakku's new avatar. I really liked D's flashbacks for sure Embarrassed Embarrassed .... maybe there is a reason behind this Dongiri of Nakku and her stepping into D's shoes for some time.....I know we as an audience have really high expectations from LTL but I guess we just have to wait it out and see how the story progresses (there is a positive reason behind everything imo)....I am sure our patience will pay off .....and as far as the phone call is concerned this is my prediction...Nakku comes home, AS yells at her....Kala tonts her some more and Nakku remembers about the village dange and she feels helpless and goes to D's room for strength and then as Khushi predicted....BANG - the phone call @ night in private Wink


Yes, there is a reason for sure. I like to see strong female protagonists, and to me this is a representation of how much of Dutta she has in her. How much of his influence has rubbed on her, to the extent that she is willing to go that "Don" extent to prove her faith. At the same time, they continue showing that she is also the god fearing pativrata, that she always has been.
Her groW*H has been as nice to see as Dutta's so I am not going to complain.


Yeah true...I know as an audience we know that Nakku's character has this innocence in her and the way she wins her battles with kala with her faith and love towards D.....but I always felt that the CV's have also showed the "powerful woman" side of Nakku as well when need be.....

 [physically]...... the scene where she is having a cat fight with Supriya LOL LOL thinking she was there to harm Dutta and then Nakku and Babi attacking Suds Thumbs Up LOL  LOL LOL......even though these scenes had a humorous feel to them, the creatives still got the idea of Nakku being a powerful woman across in a light-hearted way

 [mentally]..... the scene where Nakku goes to bring Dutta back after he finds out about his father, the way she tells him on his face with the powerful attitude (totally loved that scene) and also the Mangalsutra return scene (loved the anger and attitude she had)......but now they have shown this "powerful woman" avatar in a more serious fashion.....i guess that's why some of us may not be liking it are not able to click with it........I think it's just a temp. thing to build on to a better storyline hopefully (fingers crossed)....trying to stay positive  Smile


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Posted: 27 January 2011 at 10:56am | IP Logged
What in the world is wrong with those villagers? Why are they destroying their own habitat and businesses because Dutta is apparently dead? But I guess it's not called mob mentality for nothing...disgusting behaviour. Did anyone else see that random yellow doodh-wala standing in the middle of the road while everyone else was phela-ing aafaat? ROFL

The tie-in of flashbacks between Dutta and Nakku when she's at the cupboard was really nice...I miss seeing him like that. It would have been perfectly great if she was shown to be remembering him, feeling him through his relics, taking strength from them...which was powerful really. They could have (and should have) done without her putting them on her own person and using them though...Nakku has enough eminence on her own and through the weight of her words and honesty (which are her biggest strengths) that she should be able to make the mob 'see' without trying to take Dutta's 'bhaes'...Nakku is Nakku and she is Nakku because she's not Dutta. To become his wife in the most deserving form, she does not need to become little Dutta and she does not need people to see her that way either. In this situation specifically because there was so much tod-phod going on, it would have been much, much better if Baaji had assumed a leadership position and handled the situation along with his men by shutting the people down with a dhansu speech and physical force if required. Baaji standing mum while Neta Nakku handles the praja...not flying with me. MV acted much better today than in her previous village scenes though...in individual and close-up shots she was still able to sell this scene to some extent, but on the bigger scale, between all those grungy and violent men, who were infuriated and had apparently been ready to jump down Vahini's throat for lying to them, the situation just became unbelievable. And the way they got convinced at the end and all their ire died away with Nakku's voice echoing...right.

MR nailed it with the blindness today...the manner in which he stumbled and his eyes were widened in misdirection...spot-on! "Nakku ke paas shayad phone bhi nahi hai." You THINK, Dutta!? LOL I love how he was yelling and getting angry over the phone too, hilarious ROFL Oh, this man...Tongue

Precap...Nakku, tell Baaji already...there is no reason why you should be keeping him in the dark of all people. He has helped you and you know you can confide in him...he deserves to know who is doing this because obviously the thought of 'this enemy' is playing on his mind and the least you can do is answer that for him...but will she or won't she? What will stop her?

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Posted: 27 January 2011 at 11:02am | IP Logged
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They could have (and should have) done without her putting them on her own person and using them though...Nakku has enough eminence on her own and through the weight of her words and honesty (which are her biggest strengths) that she should be able to make the mob 'see' without trying to take Dutta's 'bhaes'...Nakku is Nakku and she is Nakku because she's not Dutta. To become his wife in the most deserving form, she does not need to become little Dutta and she does not need people to see her that way either.




Well saidClapClapClap  Nakku is Nakku and Dutta is Dutta....they both have their own unique qualities that make them special and it should stay that way....I really don't see the need for Nakku to go about being "mini-Dutta" for whatever reason....doesn't cut it with me either.....Nakku has so much strength in her character by herself....why doesn't she use THAT instead if she is oh so interested in giving bhaashans to the villagers? Chalo maybeeeeee I'll even digest her putting on Dutta's vest....but for god's sake his GUN??!!!Confused Keep Nakku AWAY from guns, man....JUST doesn't work!LOL

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Posted: 27 January 2011 at 11:12am | IP Logged
Originally posted by LuvPremeer4ever

Finally...someone defends D's Nakku Smile
I thought I was the only crazy one who kinda enjoyed some bits and pieces of Nakku's new avatar. I really liked D's flashbacks for sure Embarrassed Embarrassed .... maybe there is a reason behind this Dongiri of Nakku and her stepping into D's shoes for some time.....I know we as an audience have really high expectations from LTL but I guess we just have to wait it out and see how the story progresses (there is a positive reason behind everything imo)....I am sure our patience will pay off .....and as far as the phone call is concerned this is my prediction...Nakku comes home, AS yells at her....Kala tonts her some more and Nakku remembers about the village dange and she feels helpless and goes to D's room for strength and then as Khushi predicted....BANG - the phone call @ night in private Wink

I hope, I really do...these scenes with Nakku acting so and thus being able to control the mob as a result are stretching the limit to which there can be suspension of disbelief (in my opinion)...maybe they are taking this route to show Nakku doing something aggressively while Dutta is away and it's just for this little period of time...God, I hope it's only for this little period of time...I will take anything over this, yes, even Nakku hounding the temples and rotating around trees.

Which reminds me...oooooooooo, Nakku is in trouble Tongue Bahar toh she was giving bhav to people, lekin ghar aake AS is going to do her besti-proof LOL If it leads up to the phone call after she is completely sad and depressed, it'll be the sweetest surprise for her (:

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Posted: 27 January 2011 at 11:18am | IP Logged
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They could have (and should have) done without her putting them on her own person and using them though...Nakku has enough eminence on her own and through the weight of her words and honesty (which are her biggest strengths) that she should be able to make the mob 'see' without trying to take Dutta's 'bhaes'...Nakku is Nakku and she is Nakku because she's not Dutta. To become his wife in the most deserving form, she does not need to become little Dutta and she does not need people to see her that way either.




Well saidClapClapClap  Nakku is Nakku and Dutta is Dutta....they both have their own unique qualities that make them special and it should stay that way....I really don't see the need for Nakku to go about being "mini-Dutta" for whatever reason....doesn't cut it with me either.....Nakku has so much strength in her character by herself....why doesn't she use THAT instead if she is oh so interested in giving bhaashans to the villagers? Chalo maybeeeeee I'll even digest her putting on Dutta's vest....but for god's sake his GUN??!!!Confused Keep Nakku AWAY from guns, man....JUST doesn't work!LOL


I just say, we agree to disagree here. Naku was never shown to be meek in any way, she is very strong, and is still the only person who can stand up to Dutta himself (not Baaji, not AS even). So if she can stand up to Dutta, she can do anything to shut these people up. And to defend her actions a little more, she also does say, that she is nothing with Dutta, she is doing this only because she has his support and her existence without him is nothing. As for the gun, Dutta himself taught her,pushed her into weilding one at a time when she didnt want to - hell she even hit her hands against the wall bleeding because she held a gun and shot with it - so in this case when she has so much against her, villagers believing her hubby is dead, she has every reason to weild it, and she did it well.

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Posted: 27 January 2011 at 11:29am | IP Logged
Originally posted by nureat01

Well saidClapClapClap  Nakku is Nakku and Dutta is Dutta....they both have their own unique qualities that make them special and it should stay that way....I really don't see the need for Nakku to go about being "mini-Dutta" for whatever reason....doesn't cut it with me either.....Nakku has so much strength in her character by herself....why doesn't she use THAT instead if she is oh so interested in giving bhaashans to the villagers? Chalo maybeeeeee I'll even digest her putting on Dutta's vest....but for god's sake his GUN??!!!Confused Keep Nakku AWAY from guns, man....JUST doesn't work!LOL

You know, if they wanted to have her make an impact through bhaashans, it could actually have turned out to be much more striking and believable because Nakku does have that way with her simplistic words, woh baatein 'jo badal deti hain' while seeming so basic yet being deep. Even the dialogues in today's scene...the way those people got convinced...it wasn't right. It could have been made a tag-team effort between Nakku and Baaji...Baaji controls and gets them to listen, convinces them...and Nakku delivers the punch with her belief and faith, by asking for their trust and support...some deep, heartfelt writing here could have instilled the faith in not only the mob, but even the viewers and Nakku/Baaji themselves...it could have been a moment of immense trust and belief actually...it didn't end up being one because of the half-baked, unconvincing scenario and writing though :(

EDIT: droopy_asleep, we'll agree to disagree LOLSmile But just for the sake of discussion on the Nakku being meek bit...I don't think that's the point because we'll all agree on her being amazingly assertive upon requirement...but she has a different kind of strength, you know? She can do anything for Dutta, and like Roopa said before, we know that, we've seen that...but there are different ways of showing this, ways in which they can play up her strengths rather than putting her in a mould that seems off and uncomfortable...MV is trying her best with the material she has been given IMO, but there are other limitations beyond her control which don't quite make this seem natural for her and the character...

Maybe they are trying to give a new 'transformation' of sorts to the character but aren't doing convincing enough a job for some of us to buy into and let go of that previous image...I guess I just want Nakku to be Nakku...not for her to turn into someone else and be hollow at that...


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Posted: 27 January 2011 at 11:34am | IP Logged
AS...I don't understand this woman....really...She came to know that her son is dead and all she does is get mad at Nakku for hiding it from her...Will that be the first reaction of any mother who comes to know that her son is dead? Or is she screaming for Nakku so that she can come again and tell her that Dutta is alive?? There better be some other reason...

I hope Nakku handles AS and Kala the same way she handled the villagers...LOL Especially Kala,  Nakku...just shoot her with the gun you have...Thumbs UpWith AS - walk away from her just the way Dutta does when someone talks stuff that he doesn't like.

I liked the scene where Nakku was in the room talking to Dutta's pictures and then taking out his coat, gun etc...the way the scenes and FBs were built came out very cute. 

Still waiting for the phone conversation...if it is going to be in the night with just Dutta-Nakku alone and no one else around...even better.....Day Dreaming


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Posted: 27 January 2011 at 11:35am | IP Logged
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Originally posted by nureat01

Well saidClapClapClap  Nakku is Nakku and Dutta is Dutta....they both have their own unique qualities that make them special and it should stay that way....I really don't see the need for Nakku to go about being "mini-Dutta" for whatever reason....doesn't cut it with me either.....Nakku has so much strength in her character by herself....why doesn't she use THAT instead if she is oh so interested in giving bhaashans to the villagers? Chalo maybeeeeee I'll even digest her putting on Dutta's vest....but for god's sake his GUN??!!!Confused Keep Nakku AWAY from guns, man....JUST doesn't work!LOL

You know, if they wanted to have her make an impact through bhaashans, it could actually have turned out to be much more striking and believable because Nakku does have that way with her simplistic words, woh baatein 'jo badal deti hain' while seeming so basic yet being deep. Even the dialogues in today's scene...the way those people got convinced...it wasn't right. It could have been made a tag-team effort between Nakku and Baaji...Baaji controls and gets them to listen, convinces them...and Nakku delivers the punch with her belief and faith, by asking for their trust and support...some deep, heartfelt writing here could have instilled the faith in not only the mob, but even the viewers and Nakku/Baaji themselves...it could have been a moment of immense trust and belief actually...it didn't end up being one because of the half-baked, unconvincing scenario and writing though :(


It's sad, Fatty....that basically they've cemented the belief that Baaji is just supposed to be a sidekick....first to Dutta and now to Nakku....does he not have ANY identity and power himself as being Dutta's foremost lieutenant? Do the ppl of Patilwaadi have no respect or regard for Baaji? Only NAKKU the great can get through to them with her supposedly magically powerful aura? WHY does Baaji just stand aside and WATCH Nakku like some kind of blind bhakt? He's HANDING her guns and just sitting there watching her meekly?....he's expecting THAT tiny woman to stop riots! Amazing! And we are supposed to shut our brains and just swallow this....amazing artistic liberty....even by LTL standardsLOLLOL.....Basically with Dutta's supposed "death", Baaji has been relegated to being NAKKU'S subordinate when in fact it should have been both of them AT PAR as equals trying to talk to everyone and get through to them....maybe it is my misinterpretation of Baaji's character then that I expected more from him.....basically what they are showing us is that even Nakku has more balls than BaajiLOLLOL


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