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Creation vs. Evolution - A Question of Origins (Page 2)

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Posted: 24 January 2011 at 10:26am | IP Logged

Originally posted by Summer3

Clearly this is a Chicken and Egg situation

Evolution has been used to explain the chicken-egg thing, but its relevance to the creationism vs evolution discussion doesn't bcom apparent, atleast not to me. Cud u shed more light on the reasons that led u to blv that creationism vs evolution is akin to chicken-egg argument ?

PS: not sure abt the role of cosmic accident (little evidence for panspermia), but haan .. condom accident indeed leads to new life .. :P




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Originally posted by PhoeniXof_Hades

Moreover, creationism doesn't explain anything. It just says "God did it". Fine, God did do it...but so what? How does that explain all the other remaining questions linked it? It's another way of saying "I don't know", or rather just closing the question with a typical answer.

Having said that, I don't see why evolution and creation has to be separate entities. People can always reconcile evolution with God.

well most religious books are ambiguously written (imperfect creations of the perfect being) and are hence open to multiple interpretations. So whenever smthing comes up that disregards or "lessens" (as Hawking puts it) the role played by God, the religous ppl have 2 options - 1) To ignore the theory, disregard it completely (e.g. the legendary Harun Yahya ) 2) To lend an entirely new meaning to the already written word. In these days of growing intolerance, when every1 is hellbent  to prove superiority of their religion, the latter helps more as the same discovery/theory can now be used as the attestation of the great religion. 

e.g.

#1 God created the earth in 7 days, science refutes it. The explanation comes - ofcourse God's 7 days are not the same as 24hr .. each day is equivalent to millions of years .. hence, there's no conflict and God is great ,yay!!

#2 God created man, science says evolution did it and there's overwhelming evidence for it. So, the new explanation comes that ofcourse evolution did take place but the agent for it was God's will.

#3 God says, i split heaven & earth - a baseless statement. The same words are now given the meaning that God was referring to the Big Bang !

So in that sense, I agree that yes, almost anything can be reconciled with God. 

Infact there are diff flavors of evolution that do just that - theistic evolution and/or intelligent design. These ppl accept evolution as a phenomenon but replace the natural selection as the driving force behind the process, with Godly intervention or design (Here God bcoms the designer of species). The common argument that intelligent design proponents come up with is that there's no natural process that creates(or can create) novel information or the kind of complexity that exists in nature.




Edited by thickhead - 24 January 2011 at 8:13pm
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Posted: 24 January 2011 at 8:02pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by thickhead

Originally posted by Summer3

Clearly this is a Chicken and Egg situation

Evolution has been used to explain the chicken-egg thing, but its relevance to the creationism vs evolution discussion doesn't bcom apparent, atleast not to me. Cud u shed more light on the reasons that led u to blv that creationism vs evolution is akin to chicken-egg argument ?

PS: not sure abt the role of cosmic accident (little evidence for panspermia), but haan .. condom accident indeed leads to new life .. :P


Ah basically we keep jumping from one to the other in circles.
Science says evolution and religion says creation.
 
The physical universe is a transformation of Energy
 
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Posted: 25 January 2011 at 3:30am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Summer3

   Ah basically we keep jumping from one to the other in circles.

Science says evolution and religion says creation.

Evolution, creation are completely unrelated, indepedent answers to the question about origin; dont think ppl jump from 1 to another in circles. One who blv in religion, shall always hv prob accepting evolution in its entirety and vice-versa.

So, the question still stays - which 1 do u blv in creationism or evolution and y ?


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Let me quote my old post from another evolution topic:Smile
 
If God created everything complete then why we using the word 'Evolution'? Evolution means creation continues...the process still running...!!? & about  Darvins evalution views...cos biologists and anthropologists are still wondering what happened to the missing link between men and monkeySmile
 

Q :Why did the chicken cross the road?  Evolutionist 1 : Pure chance.   Evolutionist   2: Only the fittest chickens survive crossing the road.  .....Creationist: God created the chicken on the other side of the road. ..........There is no proof it ever was on this sideSmile.



Edited by Believe - 25 January 2011 at 4:01am

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