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NivRen: Pyaar.. Haqqiqat ya phir ek Dhoka? (Page 42)

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Posted: 22 January 2011 at 12:02pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Cutie-NivRen

Originally posted by sushmitadutta

@Simi Dear Viren never said tht he hav 2 b careful infront of Nivi . I thnk Viren will make excuse . n may b Nivi will ask him d ques but then since she loves him , she will b more worried for his wound .
It is also possible na she hasn't seen that what hurted that man. She was very scared she knew something hurted man who was capturing her but doesn't know what and at which place the other person was hurt. She hadn't seen that specifically but when she will try to recall it closely then only will remember na and for that something must be triggered so I think she will not think about that right now.


Rachu.. even i had thought about it... Had she known the stalker was hurt by the nail, then she would have checked Sid's shirt when he came to her room... I think she was so scared at that time she didnt notice the wound...

May be Viren will make up some story and Nivi feeling bad for him and we may get to see some scene like Nivi applying medicine.. LOLLOL

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Posted: 22 January 2011 at 12:05pm | IP Logged
Nice points Simi. I agree with you. I think I will only be able to see Viren's face without wanting to hit him if I keep these points in mind. Right now best thing for me is to forget out his self talk and HM night incident until whole truth behind Viren's behavior is out. I know even for the wrong reasons he is getting a justice for Nivi. YD and CC would have done something else to make her life miserable if stalker incidents weren't happen. And I still believe that Kitchen fire incident Viren wasn't involved. So far we just know that what he did on HM night all other incident we still have to see how he pulled it off. 

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Posted: 22 January 2011 at 12:05pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by sushmitadutta

Originally posted by FaizaNivRen

Originally posted by sushmitadutta

@Keettyy n @ Faizu I thnk u want 2 kill me .rght ? OMGG One more SHIRTLESS Scene of KINSHUK MAHAJAN / VIREN SOOD , WHOOPS U surelyy want 2 kill me  I will b deadd yaar Dead but i would love 2 b killed by my jaanu swwetipiee Wink .
 
I So hope n Pray ki It happens yaarr . Oh Damnn ROmantic Day Dreaming
LMAAAO!!
OH MONI DIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!
Yes yes, if Viren will have ANOTHER shirtless scene on monday, THEN YOU AND KETTY DII WILL BE THE FIRST PEOPLE I SHALL REMEMBER!!
And I will fall of my bed laughing!!!
 
Yup, Moni Di, Viren's Kinshuktastic Body WILL KILL YOU!!
So Therefore, I TOO PRAY WITH YOU THAT THE CT'S SHOW US THIS BANDAGE SCENE ON MONDAY!!
FOR ALLL OF US AND FOR OUR SAKE!!!!! EmbarrassedWink
 
If they show it, I will be sooooooooooo over the moon, since the CT's would have listened to me again, like they did for the Maha episode on the "what I do NOT want list", Remember Ketty Di?? Wink
 
 
Oh Yes dear I definatelyy will die Dead n i m ready for it .
 
n like  said may b thatzz why till now his wound is bleeding n ct's r planning for dis type of scene . Ufff i can'tt waitt yaar , i want 2 see dis scene . Embarrassed
Exactly Moni Di!!
Because think of it, Viren isn't dumb. He would have made sure that he bandaged his wound so it doesn't get worse. But why doesn't he? The CT's want to have this scene, I think, and that is why they did this. I mean, Viren OBVIOUSLY isn't stupid enough not to plaster or bandage his wound up!
And he also didnt have his black jacket on, why? Because Nivi will come to know about the blood stain on his white top!!
And then Viren is going to make up some RANDOM excuse as to why he got injured ..
Intresting ... LOLWink

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Posted: 22 January 2011 at 12:12pm | IP Logged
Definatelyyy Simi . U know i m completlyyy Wid Viren . For suppose if he is stalker ( Whch i reallyy don't agrre ) but then also by stalking Nivi , He made Nivi mentallyy strong only . like it is said U never cn judge d deepness of a river till d time u urself goes in it . rght  So same goes wid Nivi . till d time she will nt face d fear , she will nt get strong . So thatzz wht Viren did . Yes His way of dong might b rude but we can't tell tht it was rght or wrong . Infact it all benefited Nivi . Tell me if i m wrong .After each n ever incident She came out strong whch Viren wanted . Viren never wanted her 2 rely on him . n if for tht he took dis step n it's far more better justifiable .
 
n As far as givng mental torure is concerened rach n payal , So dear of Viren tortured her but he only after every incident cured it n cared her so tht she could feel better . He alwys kept in mind ki She should nt b hurted Physically .
 
As far as rach Sid is concerned , Plzz Sid is nt saint . Just becozz he is been shown like a saint who respects his family n blah blah blah it doesn't mkes him gd . n hu cn u gurantee tht whtever sid would hav done in his childhood wouldn't b biggg mistake . Yes it might nt b bigg mistake but dear u r also forgeeting one thng ki At tht time they were 5-6 yrs small kids n in dis age if somethng sits in ur mind , tht remains thruout ur life . n In viren's mind it sat . n So he hates Sid . n U can't gel wid a child's mind . U can't tell whatzz gong on in 5-6 yrs child's mind . rght ? So U can't tell ki Whtever sid might hav done would nt b wrong or big mistake . Dear sometimes Children in their innocnece also does somethng veryy bigg whch is veryy bad . Yes elders will understand it but d one who is of same age will nt understand it . n will take it in his heart .
 
Sid has his mom So all mental problems n his tensions were used 2 b cleared by VD but since Viren has no1 dis misunderstanding never got cleared nt evn by BS , no1 tried 2 understood him n so as a result tht misunderstang took d form of hatred . Whch i m sure will b removed n cleared by Viren himself n Viren will b d one who himself will admit all whose thngs whch he did till now.
So u can't blame Viren n u can't say tht Sid wouldn''t hav done bigg mistake just becozz it is their childhood thng

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Posted: 22 January 2011 at 12:20pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by gmann2010

Nice points Simi. I agree with you. I think I will only be able to see Viren's face without wanting to hit him if I keep these points in mind. Right now best thing for me is to forget out his self talk and HM night incident until whole truth behind Viren's behavior is out. I know even for the wrong reasons he is getting a justice for Nivi. YD and CC would have done something else to make her life miserable if stalker incidents weren't happen. And I still believe that Kitchen fire incident Viren wasn't involved. So far we just know that what he did on HM night all other incident we still have to see how he pulled it off. 
 
 
Yupp Dear fully agrred .Just becozz Nivi was tortured we should nt forget dis ki whtever Viren did till now has benefited Nivi only . It was for her netterent only . Viren can't b wid her 24/7 rght ? n Viren never wanted her depending on him thruout her life . I mean hu many times Yaar ? Hu many times Nivi will b dragged n Viren will come n save her n then both will go 2 room . n thatzz it ? No yaar dis is nt d solution n viren knows dis veryy well . So yes he gave her torture but we should sldo nt forget ki after tht he was only d one who handled her , who calmed her down ,n who made her more strong .
 
So i thnk Viren is very much forgivable .

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Posted: 22 January 2011 at 12:27pm | IP Logged
And Then ...
Let's Just Say That The Bandage Scene Happened.
And Viren Took Of His Top ...
Viren Has A Tatoo At The Back Of Him.
Will Nivi Or Won't Nivi Ask About It?
 
She Might - Since She'll Be Surprised And Would Want To Know About It
 
She Might Not - Too Scared To Ask? I Think Not.
 
And NOW I Also See Why They Showed Us Viren's Tatoo On The HM Night, So That We Know Of It, And WHEN Nivi Asks About It, We Get To Know WIth Her About What The Tatoo Stands For.
 
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Posted: 22 January 2011 at 12:30pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Rani2011

Hi Moni, thanks for ur warm welcome! how r u?
Nope, I din't dare to go to that thread it just happened coz of my curser Smile since I went there, I read few postsWink it was not worth anyways... won't do that mistake again ooops....
 
 
Yes U better should nt do tht mistake again mistakelyy also LOL otherwise ur mind will b spinning 24/7 ROFL

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Posted: 22 January 2011 at 12:30pm | IP Logged
hello girls *hugs*

I see some of you are back to doubting and bashing Viren, and its okay I respect your opinion, but I have been thinking about Viren and Nivi all day today ! The reason I did not say NivRen is because NivRen is when we talk about the two of them together, but they have their own individuality too !! So I tried to think about all this from their perspective.

Yesterday I had written a post about how I think Nivi will react when she finds out about Viren, so today I will talk about only Viren.

I'm going to presume here that Viren is the stalker okay ? In that case I myself and Nivi should hate him because to mentally torture someone for the sake of your revenge is truly cruel, but unfortunately I can't hate him. I will tell you why !!

When Viren arrived in Shimla, he met Nivi, and saved her honor and life. That was not pretend or fake ! He was ready to give up his own life for a stranger, that shows that he is a decent human being who respects woman, that itself is a great proof for me that he is not evil or a negative character. So if he respects woman so much and is such a decent human being, why did he use a helpless girl who is his wife to take revenge on his own brother ? That is a very vital and a interesting question ! It makes you think right ?

I don't know what happened in the past or in childhood that made Viren hate Sid so much, but I can say one thing for sure that it was not a small or a petty thing, because we cannot forget that flash back scene of Viren with Chanchal where he tells her that he has tried to take his life before, but unfortunately he didn't die, but next time there would be no mistake. Whatever happened with Sid must have been so huge, traumatic and painful that even a strong guy like Viren wanted to end his life so he does not have to live with what happened and the pain that goes with it.  If that is not worrisome enough that he tried to end his life, the fact that CC had no idea that he has tried to commit suicide is something which is actually haunting me, because it shows that not only did they send him away from the family, but no one ever bothered to check up on Viren and his well being !!

Today we are all sitting on this forum and debating about what is right and what is wrong, because we all were fortunate enough to have someone guide us when we were kids !! Our parents, grandparents, our siblings, but Viren had no one, because they were all too busy with their own lives to give him the love and attention he deserved, and whenever he did visit his so called family, he was reminded time and time again that whatever he does, he will and never was good enough as Sid !!

I'm not saying that whatever Viren is doing or has done is right, no it is not, especially to Nivi, because she is completely innocent in all this, but I can understand or at least try to understand why Viren is doing all this !! Because when you have never been taught what is right or wrong, how can you differentiate ! I know most of you will say that he is an educated guy and that his teachers and educational institutes are a good place to learn about right and wrong, and yes true, but what they teach you in schools is theory, from books, they can tell you how it is, but we all practice or implement what we learned in our personal lives, and that is how we learn, because if we make a mistake, our family is there to tell us, that this is the way to do this, this is the way to differentiate between right and wrong !!!

We all have seen time and time again that Viren still acts like a child sometime, and now a days, he looks like a very angry but a lost child to me, who is hell bent on proving himself right, but is also craving for a loved one to tell him that he is right, even amidst this hatred, is that small lost child, who is dying for approval, and that is why he is leaving these clues behind, that is why he wants Nivi to question him, that is why he wants Nivi to trust him, because he wants that approval from someone he respects and cares about someone whom he can call his own !! Cry

We all are blessed with love, family attention and care all our lives, so we can't imagine the pain, fear, helplessness that a small child goes through when he/she finds himself/herself all alone, especially when you have a family, but they just don't care. At least when you are orphan, you have a valid reason for being alone, but to have a family, and still grown up alone, fight your own demons ad this cruel world, it is every  child's nightmare !!! Cry

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