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Can CT's take such a big risk? (Page 3)

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Posted: 20 January 2011 at 11:40am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Omshanti1111

Originally posted by milee1014

Originally posted by COOLGIRLLAVANYA

ah cutie, viren is the ram and nivi is sita.only think our ram is a little bit selfish about his sita,doesn't want to share her with anyone!!!!!!!!
PLease dear don't compare Viren to Ram, even in his dream he never betrayed his Sita. Please lets not discuss God's here as we are mere humans to discuss about them and use them as context. They are Supreme souls we are nothing infront of them.So please don't compare a mere fictional characters to Sri Ram and Sita
Thanks
Its not just betraya;l of Nivedita, Viren has no quality of Ram.
 
Ram is maryada purushottam, he lived and died performing his duties. He sacrificed His love /His wife while being true to the duties of a king. Only Sita could understand this and in order to lessen Ram's pain, she volunteered to go to the jungle. Thats the love of Ram-Sita, who understood each other thoroughly.
Bani, I know dear. That is the reason I wrote that we cannot compare fiction to Supreme soul.

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Posted: 20 January 2011 at 11:41am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Omshanti1111

Originally posted by milee1014

OH Rachu, thanks dear. I was just venting out my thoughts why CT's are doing this? Oh good pointers with Karna and Ravana But wait until CT's reveal the whole story lets wait and watch Viren will be Ravana or Prahalada who was the destroyer of his evil father and Sid will be Karna or become Vikarna one of Kaurava brothers who fought for the truth at the end or be Dharmaraja and guides his brother in the righteous path.
Prahlad always was on the oath of righteousness. Sid can never be called Karna, I have stated the reasons in the previous post. Sid is already on the path of righteousness. Vikarna is completely different character, who came into prominence during the Kurukshetra. Dharmaraj Yudhisthir's brothers were not adharmis, they were equally on the path of Dharam as Dharamraj. But Yudhisthir's patience and wisdom was more. If Dharamraj's brothers waited for guidance, then Krishna would not have shown his "Viswaroop" to Arjun.
 
NO dear don't you ever think that, its too soon to prove its mockery of marriage and all. We have to wait and watch. About the RamSita idol and Kuldevi pooja it just to show that they got the blessing of God. It was their destiny to be together.
 
God never blesses any wrong doings. Its people who think they are being blessed.
 
 
Nivedita seeked Ganpati's blessing, but that day only, she faced the stalker and was about to unmask. One good thing that came out for Nivedita, was that today Viren only in his attempt to frame Sid, confirmed Nivedita was not hallucinating, taht there is indeed a stalker and Nivedita is not mad. [/QUOTE]
 
@bold in red - Bani, yes God never blesses any wrong-doings.. But the other way to look at it is that it was NiVren who completed the Kuldevi pooja so that means they were destined to do it. God paved the way for them to sit and complete pooja though it was started by SiDya. Similarly, Nivi has seeked Ganpati's blessing to keep their jodi together and the result is they are together and it is confirmed that she is not mad and there infact is somebody who is stalking her. So, it is God's wish to keep them together and to make Nivi go through all these problems, tests so that she can emerge as a strong and independent person. God only gives tests to those who he thinks are capable of doing it.

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Posted: 20 January 2011 at 11:46am | IP Logged
Originally posted by salunie

A very well-written post! And I'm stunned by the way you made associations to Ramayan. Clap(And thanks Cutie-Nivren for the extra info Smile)

Yes, it's very true that we won't be able to love Viren the way we did before even if he repents or has a psychotic issue. Actually, when I read the article about Viren being the stalker, I was too down to enjoy thier ballroom dance at the Lovers' Shake( or whatever that place was). I was skeptic the whole time unlike days when I'd be smiling dreamingly even when I saw the two together.
 
Yet I just hope that the childhood story is really a heart-breaking one, which will at least make us sympathize with him. And I hope he really loves Nivi and at the moment is an anti-hero rather than a villian, which will make his mistakes appear a bit pardonable.
Thanks dear, I did not made any associations as such I am completely new to this drama shows so I did not about anti-hero and all but when I read the article thread I saw Bani wrote about RAvana. That is the reason I wrote that we cannot call RAvana a hero right? and so can we call Viren a hero?
Because mistakes are mistakes even if you are mentally sick or what not but if you have done any mistake it has consequences. Just because Viren is Nivi's husband we cannot forgive him for his mistake the same way we did not forgive Sid for his mistake. So that is the reason I was thinking What are CT's thinking and how are they going to restore his character. We know Nivi & Sid character they will definitely forgive him after listening to his backstory and all but the love the relation won't be same at all.
 
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Posted: 20 January 2011 at 11:52am | IP Logged
Milee wish you good health. I hope you are fine now.
Thanks for this post, and making comparisons between Ravana and Karna. AND thanks Rachu too.
Yes you are right. The creatives took a big step OR so to say it was planned by them already. But one thing is for sure it makes a scar in NivRen husband and wife relationship. May be this is called unconventional love story. They wanted to show something different. But then RS should not have used Ram-Sita idol for NivRen symbolically. May it mean NivRen will have to pass through all the sufferings together for each other, and on the path of life the day will come to become for each other forever.


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Posted: 20 January 2011 at 11:53am | IP Logged
Originally posted by anjubala

Awesome post Milee. And yes even I question CTs, why are they doing this? Why are they risking by showing Viren in this avataar?
No reason can justify his actions of using Nivi - an innocent, pure girl. Nobody has right to torture Nivi like this not even Viren, no matter what his condition is or what his reasons are. Nothing can justify his physically / mentally hurting her.
It is not going to be the same NiVren we have been so fond of. If he had to take revenge from Sid, he could have done it other ways, not by using Nivi and sowing seeds of hatred. This is not going too well with me but I am still trying to be optimistic. Just waiting for his past to unfold and then decide whether that situation or reasons are good enough for him to behave the way he is or he has.
Or is it CTs are just trying to confuse us more and are intentionally showing him in this light whereas they have planned something else and he is not waht he has been shown for past 2 days. Kinshuk has not agreed that he is the stalker... Maybe it is a bigger picture that we have to still see...I think our eyes are not showing everything and we should not believe what we are seeing right now. Whatever our heart or gut says, we should believe that.
 Thanks Anju,I am being optimistic too but when I saw yesterday's episode I was like what are CT's trying to show? Can Nivi ever be the same after she comes to know intentionally or unintentionally, for good or bad, for revenge or not, with him being mentally sick or not, with his backstory whatever it is has used her in this game of revenge.
I am waiting fingers crossed how CT's will restore this and why did they take such a big risk and that too on the same day when she fell in love. They did not give viewers enough time to enjoy those scenes, the next day they came to know its Viren who was harming her. I am really not sure about other incidents but last night was enough for me to think what are CT's upto?
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Posted: 20 January 2011 at 12:01pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by lams

Milee di just awesome ... I dont think the CTs have realized what they have done ...think about it ...there are like 30 of us crazy Nivren fans but most of the people in India are not that educated enough to analyse what we do ...so CTs make bloopers and more bloopers and everything is just brushed under the carpet and somehow they will make Nivren unite in the end but it wont satisfy us . I have a feeling when the TRPs go down this week ..CTs will make another blooper and make Nivi fall in love with Viren ...its all a game of TRPs ..and nothing more ...forget emotions and intelligent viewers
Hey Lamya, YOU are right about game of TRP's. But for that I don't want them to just brush everything under carpet. They started this and they better end it in the right possible way.And I do know its their story so cannot say anything in this but just leave the show when we its not upto our liking.

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Posted: 20 January 2011 at 12:06pm | IP Logged

Awesome post Milee. I wouldn't mind if Viren was taking revenge from Sid for some twisted reason but now I won't be able to forgive him because he is using innocent kind hearted person for his own advantage. I wouldn't even mind if he would have done it openly and right after marriage told Nivi the truth of why he married her, but now after hearing him again and again about how he loves her and he will protect her etc.... and trying to make her fall for him, I will not be able to feel the same way about his character. If Sid's one mistake can make us hate him so much, how can we just forgive Viren for doing worse than what Sid did. I don't know what is in CTs mind, I think they didn't like show's rating going up. Main attraction of this show from last few months were NivRen only. I don't know with whatever is going on right now how long we can stay and still watch this show.

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Posted: 20 January 2011 at 12:21pm | IP Logged
Bani sorry to say Sid is never rightitous as he never ever sided truth so we can't say he is rightitous.
 
I am sorry to compare Viren with Ravan but he is not because even for his own selfish reasons he sided the truth (Nivedita) he indirectly helped Nivi only and today also he proved Nivi sane which Sid never did.
 
Thats why Millie is right that we can't compare these fictional character with gods as they are no where close to us. It is said everyone has ram and ravan in themselves but it depends whose proportion is more in your soul.

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