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Posted: 20 January 2011 at 2:37am | IP Logged
Originally posted by milee1014

OH Navi, glad I could help a little. I read almost all the posts written today in this thread and what posts they wereLOL
But I have only one thing to say if you read my latest post that is what I have written can CT's destroy their own creation? I think not, if they show Viren a pscyhotic and mentally sick and all even later on when the pair gets back it will be only sympathy and nothing much. And specially for him to use an innocent girl for his revenge is completely idiotic and I am saying this again if he did all this he doesnot deserve a pure innocent heart like Nivi at all in hislife even thought he may be mentally sick or had a loveless childhood.
So I will be positive until they show something different and then I will quit the show if they show soemthing I donot like even thought Nivi may forgive him I will not. So I am postive about the Viren I know and he will not do anything like this.
 
Zarmeen, Hi again and yes we missed yesterday. Hope your hand is all ok. Take care
I think I better go now as husband is home and will kill me if he sees me doing this and not resting, this sickness is killing me girls and specially me being anemic he gets all worried more and more.
But see you all tomorrow I promise and we can discuss a lot.
So take care all my precious girls and be positive and don't lose hope on our NIvREn the magical jodi.


Milee, am so glad you are feeling better, but you have to get 100% better so we can discuss to our hearts content without worrying that you are exerting yourself *hugs* Please take very good care of yourself, because I know what you are going through being an anemic, I'm one myself !!

Milee, I know it is easy to believe that he is not the stalker, but the CT's have been preparing us for a long time now, it is our own fault that we wanted to believe that Viren was perfect !! He is human, and mentally disturbed !! I really do feel that he loves Nivi, so I think he is avenging Sid for both his and her sake !!

I really think Viren was blamed and sent away because of something Sid did and Sid did not stand up and own up to his mistake, and I think he believes Nivi is also a victim of Sid's actions.

Remember, how I said it time and time again that when he first met her and saved her life, he saw a bit of himself in her, that Junoon and passion to save her loved one not caring about her ownself, I think that impressed him a lot, that is why in their second meeting in the hospital when she says, I never cared about myself, had something happen to my dad, I would have died too, and he said I realize that, but you won't understand that !! So he realized the moment he met her that unknown to even her, she is a very strong girl, and the more he met her, the more he liked her, till the day their identities were revealed and he questioned himself whether she could do something like this or nor and his answer was No !! Because who knows better then HIM what it feels like to be blamed for something he didn't do so he wanted to befriend her, because he felt he could understand relate to her, so the night he drugged her, he only meant to help, but found that that she was in love with someone, and knowing Nivi and how reserved she is, it is easy for anyone to figure that she was betrayed by Sid, because he was her only male friend, but he didn't realize that Sid had loved her too, I think he thought that Nivi loved Sid, but he didn't reciprocate her feelings and got engaged to Divya, so Viren tells her to give the guy back the pain he has given her, and she replied that love is not about revenge, but about being happy in your beloved's happiness, and that is when Viren fell in love with her, he asks her who he was, no reply from Nivi, he also asks if he loved her, again no reply, so Viren was not aware of Sid being in love with her !! The next day we saw her standing up for Nivi in front of Sharmila, that was because he has become protective and possessive about her after what he found out the previous night !! So at the Giddha ceremony he promised himself that he will tell her about his feelings and he did !! Everything was going okay till he saw her running out of the Sood house, and he followed her, only to hear her ask NT to get her married to any random guy, and he was upset because not only did he had feelings for her, but because he like NT thought that Nivi was taking this step because she could not bear to see Sid with Divya, so he knew what he had to do, he asks for Nivi's hand in marriage, only to come back to return her payal, and got the shock of his life !! Nivi and Sid were in a relationship, Sid loved her too !! So he goes back, confused and disturbed, that is why he passed by her the next morning only to be called by her and when she says that she wants Sid to marry Divya, he offers to help her, because he could kill two birds with one stone, help Nivi and take revenge from Sid for both their sake because he knew Nivi would never do it herself, and he had become very possessive about her already !! That is why with every ritual that happed for DivSid, he did so for himself and Nivi too, it was for his LOVE for NivI and For Revenge for Sid !! I also believe he always planned on marrying Nivi, and ihis decision was not prompted by Sid trying to call off the wedding !! That is why in the temple he tells Nivi that whatever I said, I meant it and that I will be true to our relationship and marriage forever !!

I think what triggered his stalking plan was the confrontation with Keshav when he says how he and Nivi's mom suffered because of the Sood's, so maybe Viren thinks thought that whatever happened to Keshav and Nivi now was Sid's doing and his father was blamed !! So when he came back from Delhi the first time,  the stalking incidents started, because what better way to frame Sid and make Nivi hate HIM, but making her and everyone believe that Sid not only stalked her, but actually used the knowledge of her mom's suicide to drive Nivi insane !!! Nivi would never see Sid's face and would become Viren's only, and Sid's image would be shattered in front of the family, and Sid would feel the pain of loosing the trust and faith of his family and how it feels to be blamed for something he didnt do !!!

About how could he use Nivi ? Remember, how he said in his confession that how could i not fall in love with the girl who could forgive the guy who betrayed her !! He had always known how strong she is emotionally, because even in the store room scene he said that 'I thought I married a very strong girl' so he knew she would be able to handle all the stalking incidents, because each time there was an incident he always made sure he showered her with love and pampered her, so he can make up to her for scaring her, and always the next day Nivi would become even more stronger ! Had she broken down once and he realized that she could not handle it, he would have stopped, but she did handle every incident !! About him hurting Nivi physically, he never planned for that to happen, that was his partner, but he left her in that condition because he was planning to come back for her in a very short while, whether Sid came or not !! He took her back to the hotel and stayed with her the entire time, not worrying about himself, even with him wounded and bleeding, he didn't take care of himself till he knew she was all right !!

I also think that it would be Nivi who would be the first one to find out he is the stalker and that he framed Sid !! She would then find out about his past somehow, understand why he did what he did, prove Sid innocent and cure Viren !!

Because Kinshuk said that NivRen's story is going to be very uncoventional !! Also Kinshuk said that whatever Viren will do will be for love, so in the end his Love for Nivi will win over his hatred for Sid !!

This is what my theory and prediction as far as Viren being the stalker is concerned, but you never know, he just could be pretending to be the stalker, in that case he is pretending for the sake of making the real stalker confess her crime, because in this case it can only be VD or YD !!!

So I have given theories and prediction in both the case of being him the stalker or not !!

So this was finally my analysis of not only the episode but also the the MP track !!!

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Posted: 20 January 2011 at 2:51am | IP Logged
Navi.. I luv u soooo much. Thanx a lot for d analysis of MP track. I really needed it.

(Though i'm still not happy with nivi getting hurt evenif it wasnt in his plan. Wish d CTs had shown him more guilty abt it.)

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Posted: 20 January 2011 at 2:53am | IP Logged

Hey guys,

 

Take a chill pill... It is a fiction and story can move any side according to the mood of the CTs...

 

But I have to say something here and it is that Viren is not psychotic (so far) nor is he having schizophrenia/split personality disorder. As a doctor and with experience in psychiatry, I would say that being psychotic is something different. He is obsessed with the thought of taking revenge from Sid and his passion and obsession is also Nivedita.

 

He is like everyone on the forum, between love and hatred and sometime his passion for Nivedita is overwhelming and sometimes it is the hatred for Sid that determines what to do next. But he come back to Nivedita all the time. She is the centre point for him. The only stability in his life, while everything according to him is in chaos.

 

My opinion is that Viren would not have used Nivedita as a pawn in the first place because Nivedita pretended to be in love with him and that hurted Sid a lot. He was more or less satisfied with that. But when Sid was going to call of the weeding, then he had to take a drastic step, which was to getting married to Nivedita. Somewhere I feel that he had a hope that Nivedita with time will fall in love with him and will forget Sid. But if Sid succeded in calling the weeding off, he will lose his love to someone, whom he has lost already everything thing to.

 

His love for Nivedita has always been there from the beginning, but when Nivedita took her time to get close to him, he somehow lost is patience and started this MP-drama. Ik teer se do shikaar.

 

There is no justification for what he did, but if we really see the scenes again... Everytime something bad has happend to Nivedita, it has been after she some way or the other have said no to him. A kind of trigger!

 

I am going to refer to Navz scene from the channel:

 

a) First time Nivedita sees the stalker is Scene 51 come just after scene 50 "the sleeping arrangement".

 

b) Maha pooja: The scene where he gifts her the pendant (scene 55), which he wanted to place at her neck and she "just accepts" and next day we see that fire broke out and other stuffs.

 

c) The scene with the parathas where Nivedita helps Divya to make Sids favorit parathas and what happens next NivRen's room is ransacked.

 

d) Scene 63 where Nivedita ask Viren to join office to HELP Sid, and is not interested to know where Viren and where is wasn't and then suddenly we see him scaring her in scene 65.

 

And the list can go on... He has this obssessive form of love for her where he gives her love and it somehow depends on how Nivedita respons. In the end, he have completely lost patience regarding waiting for her to love him and started to be more "brutal" towards her to gain her love and to eliminate the threath (Sid).

 

Somehow his behaviour makes perfect sense for me. I am not surprised and the problem with is massive insecurity can be solved if he allows Nivedita to come near him to such extent that he can tell her his wounds from his past. For that Nivedita has to take interest in him and the only way it can happen, is by showing that Nivedita loves him and that is what CTs are doing.

 

Nivedita is going to fall completely in love with him and the day is not far away (okey depends on how much CTs are going to drag the drama)... Viren's cure is Nivedita and Nivedita's cure is Viren. He has made her strong, bold and have also given her a lot of self-concious by doing all this. And all this is going to help Nivedita curing him.

 

Well that's are my thoughts ;)

 

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Posted: 20 January 2011 at 2:58am | IP Logged
Originally posted by ashred12

Navi.. I luv u soooo much. Thanx a lot for d analysis of MP track. I really needed it.

(Though i'm still not happy with nivi getting hurt evenif it wasnt in his plan. Wish d CTs had shown him more guilty abt it.)


Ashley, they did show him guilty, he had tears in his eyes, he didnt take care of his own wound, and stayed with Nivi till he made sure she was okay, the relief and worry was so evident in his voice when he regained consciousness, only then he went back to his room and celebrated his victory !!

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Posted: 20 January 2011 at 3:07am | IP Logged
I also wanted to point something out !! Most of you might not agree with me and its okay, but I would still like to say it ! I have read quite a few posts saying that why should we forgive Viren, when we didn't forgive Sid, Divya, HL, CC and even Keshav, just because he is our favorite and we love NivRen !! Its not about him being our favorite or about our love for NivRen, I feel it is not fair to compare all the others with Viren, because whatever they did, they did it deliberately and with a Sane mind, Viren is mentally unstable !!! He is not well !!! Ask yourselves, would you really leave someone like that and move on ? Would your conscience allow any of you to do that ? And I'm sure that is the reason why Nivi will forgive and cure him !! And that is when their real story will start !! Maybe after she cures him he will leave Shimla for good, and Viren will repent, and do everything in his power to win her back !! Or maybe she will stay, and their love story will slwoly shape up as NivRen would be in love but would get to really know each other and then become husband and wife in the real sense !!

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Posted: 20 January 2011 at 3:10am | IP Logged
do u guys think viren is responsible for  the fire in the kitchen!!!!!!!!
it would have even killed nivi!!!!!!!!!

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Posted: 20 January 2011 at 3:12am | IP Logged
Originally posted by savera2007

Hey guys,

 

Take a chill pill... It is a fiction and story can move any side according to the mood of the CTs...

 

But I have to say something here and it is that Viren is not psychotic (so far) nor is he having schizophrenia/split personality disorder. As a doctor and with experience in psychiatry, I would say that being psychotic is something different. He is obsessed with the thought of taking revenge from Sid and his passion and obsession is also Nivedita.

 

He is like everyone on the forum, between love and hatred and sometime his passion for Nivedita is overwhelming and sometimes it is the hatred for Sid that determines what to do next. But he come back to Nivedita all the time. She is the centre point for him. The only stability in his life, while everything according to him is in chaos.

 

My opinion is that Viren would not have used Nivedita as a pawn in the first place because Nivedita pretended to be in love with him and that hurted Sid a lot. He was more or less satisfied with that. But when Sid was going to call of the weeding, then he had to take a drastic step, which was to getting married to Nivedita. Somewhere I feel that he had a hope that Nivedita with time will fall in love with him and will forget Sid. But if Sid succeded in calling the weeding off, he will lose his love to someone, whom he has lost already everything thing to.

 

His love for Nivedita has always been there from the beginning, but when Nivedita took her time to get close to him, he somehow lost is patience and started this MP-drama. Ik teer se do shikaar.

 

There is no justification for what he did, but if we really see the scenes again... Everytime something bad has happend to Nivedita, it has been after she some way or the other have said no to him. A kind of trigger!

 

I am going to refer to Navz scene from the channel:

 

a) First time Nivedita sees the stalker is Scene 51 come just after scene 50 "the sleeping arrangement".

 

b) Maha pooja: The scene where he gifts her the pendant (scene 55), which he wanted to place at her neck and she "just accepts" and next day we see that fire broke out and other stuffs.

 

c) The scene with the parathas where Nivedita helps Divya to make Sids favorit parathas and what happens next NivRen's room is ransacked.

 

d) Scene 63 where Nivedita ask Viren to join office to HELP Sid, and is not interested to know where Viren and where is wasn't and then suddenly we see him scaring her in scene 65.

 

And the list can go on... He has this obssessive form of love for her where he gives her love and it somehow depends on how Nivedita respons. In the end, he have completely lost patience regarding waiting for her to love him and started to be more "brutal" towards her to gain her love and to eliminate the threath (Sid).

 

Somehow his behaviour makes perfect sense for me. I am not surprised and the problem with is massive insecurity can be solved if he allows Nivedita to come near him to such extent that he can tell her his wounds from his past. For that Nivedita has to take interest in him and the only way it can happen, is by showing that Nivedita loves him and that is what CTs are doing.

 

Nivedita is going to fall completely in love with him and the day is not far away (okey depends on how much CTs are going to drag the drama)... Viren's cure is Nivedita and Nivedita's cure is Viren. He has made her strong, bold and have also given her a lot of self-concious by doing all this. And all this is going to help Nivedita curing him.

 

Well that's are my thoughts ;)

 



I want to thank you for the bottom of my heart for this post !!! A POV from a professional goes a long way is helping us understand where Viren could be coming from !! Love you tons for this post !! *hugs*

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Posted: 20 January 2011 at 3:15am | IP Logged
Thanx navi dear.. I'm going to watch dat scene again..
But after dat scene, they show him thinking only abt sid n not once abt nivi. Even in d last scene, he was more abt making her tell sid's name n not thinking abt d pain she's going thru coz of d entire track.

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