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NivRen: Pyaar Ki Ek Twisted Kahani (Page 34)

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Posted: 19 January 2011 at 9:30pm | IP Logged
AngryBroken HeartOne of Viren's qualities that has worked well for him is is patience and that is what is stated  in today's episode. This will allow him to escaping being detected for the time being, but he will slip up and be hasty at some point which will give him away.

I too am trying to be optimistic like the rest of you, but it's really hard. I'm angry just like Ketty is b/c we all thought so much of Viren and tried to always see the good in him and ignored the suspicious behavior and words. 

Faiza's analysis of today's episode was great, but I'm not sure if there are in fact two story lines. I think today the two story lines converged into one with Viren being the mastermind behind setting up Sid and stalking Nivi. 

Anyways, I usually watch every episode many times and especially NivRen's scenes, but I just can't bring myself to watch today's episode again. (I just watched the epi again and I have to hand it to KM for doing an amazing job as an actor, but I'm still sad that my vision of Viren has been shattered)

I JUST FEEL REALLY LET DOWNCryBroken HeartAngry


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Posted: 19 January 2011 at 9:41pm | IP Logged
Hi all,
I have read everyone posts and I am a bit relieved to see some positivity still. I still think Viren had tears in his eyes when nivi was unconscious. And he was ther without worrying abt his wound till he found she was ok. He would have never hurt her... But he didn't have a choice ... What worries me still is does everyone think that as nivi says sid's name tomm... Everyone will believe it? Not 100%. also as per the article nivi will also start suspecting Viren .... I guess she will see his wound.... So to make everyone and specially nivi believe it's Sid , he still might stalk her to crate a circumstance where Sid I caught red handed by everyone.... So thi means he will give more trouble to nivi..... Can we take it if we are so disturbed today.... No matter how big the reason be.... Was he always in love with nivi since childhood ? That nivi hatred for Sid matters him so much.... He didn't talk abt all other family members hatred for Sid today... Though he didn't get their love too while Sid did. It's more than plain revenge from Sid.... Did nivi trust Sid more than him in childhood .... As they all were friends.. And Wouk have played together... Did he want nivi to just be his friend and not sid's. It has been told that Sid was always protective for nivi bec she used to be quiet... What had happened... When he said I can do anything for u..... Did he mean going unto any extent to make Sid fall low in nivi's eyes? I guess we need to be more patient.... To see what kind of love is he in with nivi. Right now I just want to think Viren cannot hurt nivi.

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Posted: 19 January 2011 at 9:46pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by mahix3

Originally posted by simran728

Originally posted by mahix3

YOUR NEGATIVITY CAN NOT AFFECT ME!!!

Vent all you want but in the end, NivRen will prevail!

PLS pray HARDER mahi...bcos the rate at which this is going ...you will only need more and more prayers for Nivren.....if they will show Nivi curing him and helping him and forgiving just bcos she is married..that is Insane.

She will be doing all this bcos she has no choice. Who will she go to and complain to?? she is married to him and we Indian Women think our Husbands are God. When this is the biggest problem in India. In spite of Physical Abuse, Rape, Infidelity, Torture by in laws ...etc etc...we women still stick by our Husbands and Family.

Well let me tell you a breaking news Mahi....I don't believe in this crap. We live in 21st century and there are Many Many women out there who everyday Fight to get out of this abuse. For their sanity they have to leave their family. That is the only way out. No curing works. They either kill themselves or go insane bcos of this madness around them.

We Educated, Loved, and Supported Women of 21st Century do not believe in this torture and cannot tolerate. If It was Up to me ..I would help every person to get out of an abusive relationship.

I do social work where we help lot of abusive women and we put Self Confidence and strength back in them...this is no way to live and take torture..there is no need...Nivi's life will be fine without Viren.
there is no need for her to cure Viren. 

oh man...I even brought our personal Lives in this stupid serial and thought we can learn from Nivren...oh god. I am venting a lot right now.

Sorry girls for brining everyone down. I am really sorry. 

First thing is that this is not an abusive relationship.
If you think I don't get the whole 21st century woman thing, than you're way off. Trust me. I was born and raised in New York and I've always been taught that men and women are equal and not only that but rather behind every strong man is an even stronger woman. 
And just because Viren is mentally unstable, that doesn't mean that he doesn't deserve love! 
Say you meet a man who is slower than other men, why shouldn't one love him?
It's the same with Viren. He just has some problems.
But that doesn't mean that he is abusive or anything of the sort. He just has issues.
Not an abusive relationship????? When the female is battered both emotionally and lately physically????? Thats as abusive as you can get. Sorry Mahi I dont agree with you.
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Posted: 19 January 2011 at 9:50pm | IP Logged
i was watching the episode again. I will again say that what we saw today is not what is the reality. It is something else and it will be revealed to us slowly. So we need to have patience and we need to keep our faith and trust. Nivi cannot have another heart break. She will not be able to take it and even Viren knows this fact. We should not believe whatever eyes show us. Today they showed us a different Viren and that is not the whole picture.
I am not quitting CCBM yet and will be taking each episode as it comes. Will see if Nivi tells him about Sid or not as precap shows that he is blaming Sid. I am thinking what will VD say or think and did Nivi think about VD/DD before telling Sid's name to Viren?
I do not believe that the whole stalking has been done by Viren. It is possible that only dadaji medicine and the lover shack was planned by him but not the whole MP track. He just used that to his advantage. He wants and desires Nivi and she was ready to give herself to him then why will he lose the opportunity???? This is what is making me think that his motive is something else. He loves Nivi and now he knows Nivi loves him too so she will be able to forgive him for his deeds.
I just do not want CTs to give us another shocker on Friday as it will be difficult to pass the weekend.

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Posted: 19 January 2011 at 9:51pm | IP Logged
MY SCATTERED THOUGHTS!!

Today I had to print 13 pages of word document as I copies and pasted all your views on to a word document and read through it during a teleconference... i couldn't concentrate on anything at work...Now after seeing the episode and the article I can understand the tremors that it created in our small little NIVREN land... It was like an earthquake which s=has shaken us all...

If you remember a few weeks ago when the nagada song was played i said there might be hidden meaning and It seems I was some what right... 

VIREN when little must have had a hard shove form the fate... Some incident has happened which was either being blamed for something that was done by Siddharth or someone mostly CC or JW might have brainwashed him as a child that Siddharth  did somethign bad and blamed it on Viren and Siddharth might be totally innocent. We all knwo YD is very cruel with her words and when she lashes out I also flinch....so what would viren as a kid do to protect himself and dadaji might have been disappointed in him tooo.... So all Viren can think of is revenge on Siddharth. I dont think Viren  is doign all this for property atleast I hope not as CT's can change the scenario...But I think he wants SID also to be shamed in front of his family members and he also should lose credit in front of Dadaji. He also shoudl feel the lonliness and dread the small kid felt and the man who feels it now also and carries the dead baggage all these years... 

Yes I mean a dead baggage as we all do....We all carry some frustrations, shadows of the past!! I am not trying to be in favor of Viren or SID I am just stating facts!!

SID - Right now his luck nor his fate is not on his side...Looks liek he has accepted his brothers marriage to nivi and does not have any feelings as he did before towards Nivi but still cherishes her as his childhood friend!! It was a sad moment where Nivi who used to see him with respect, love and admiration now sees him with such hate and disgust. His bane of existence is his family and bad or good he holds on to like a leech, It will be a hard blow but I am sure this will all be resolved and the brothers will share a bond once this all is solved...

Nivi - I know we all feel poor Nivi....Why is this happening to her and all sorts of sympathy....I think Nivi will handle this!! She is getting the vibes that something is not right and even though everything points towards SID she is still yet to reveal the name... It is not because of her previous love or friendship...she is very smart and she knows deep within that Jo dekhayi deta hein wahi sach nahI hota......I don't know what the story will reveal but I am 1000000% sure that Nivi is the only person who holds the reign in this show, she is the one who can bring the change and once she realizes this she will leave no stone unturned to help Viren and SID both!! I meant both the brothers as both seem to be in a bad shape!!! RS ji Eh apne kya kardiya...Nivi ko abhi overtime karna padega!!

When they started today's episode...they showed remorse and sadness in Viren's face....Nivi was asleep...he didnt have to act...then why does he feel this way... I think he does love Nivi like MAD.... if you see the scene when he states Nivi who loved you so much now will hate you.. he did not have any ill words for Nivi in that sentence but all his hatred was towards SID.... 

He lost one point with me when he smirked at Nivis reaction to SID...It felt like he was enjoying the disgust that Nivi was feeling for SID... I know MR smarty pants aka Viren Sood thinks he has all the ducks in the row...he has crossed all his T's and dotted all his I's but what he doesn't know is there is something more stronger than his hatred and thirst for revenge....and that is Nivi's LOVE and her faith in God... 

I know we all enjoyed the chemistry between Nivren and now are upset, sad and even questioning the whole love thign between Nivren... We all have invested a lot of time, energy, emotions on thsi pair and on CCBM....so all I ask is to hold your thoughts...do not over react or overthink on many things...it will be as it be and at the end everything will be okay....

On a lighter note I have to say Kinshuk aka Viren's acting was excellent today... I think he chose this role to explore more of his acting potential....awesome acting...this character made us laugh, cry and now making us hate and angry...Wishing him the best as I know it is not easy to portray a negative character when u r considered the chocolate/lover boy!!

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Posted: 19 January 2011 at 9:55pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by anjubala

i was watching the episode again. I will again say that what we saw today is not what is the reality. It is something else and it will be revealed to us slowly. So we need to have patience and we need to keep our faith and trust. Nivi cannot have another heart break. She will not be able to take it and even Viren knows this fact. We should not believe whatever eyes show us. Today they showed us a different Viren and that is not the whole picture.
I am not quitting CCBM yet and will be taking each episode as it comes. Will see if Nivi tells him about Sid or not as precap shows that he is blaming Sid. I am thinking what will VD say or think and did Nivi think about VD/DD before telling Sid's name to Viren?
I do not believe that the whole stalking has been done by Viren. It is possible that only dadaji medicine and the lover shack was planned by him but not the whole MP track. He just used that to his advantage. He wants and desires Nivi and she was ready to give herself to him then why will he lose the opportunity???? This is what is making me think that his motive is something else. He loves Nivi and now he knows Nivi loves him too so she will be able to forgive him for his deeds.
I just do not want CTs to give us another shocker on Friday as it will be difficult to pass the weekend.

Anju - I just wrote the exact same thing but in different words...it is true....we all are jumping all over the place and reacting to episodes and acting in one particular scene...I also think there is more to it and coming episodes will declare the real story...

Although i am wondering if they will show Viren as just a grey character or will they try and create a sympathy story for Viren's wicked personality??

Today also when CC was seeign Viren it felt liek as if she knows something or relating something to Viren's past....

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Posted: 19 January 2011 at 10:03pm | IP Logged
Hey girls... sorry I left without notice.
I went out to dinner with my brother.
Anyways... starting tomorrow I go back to school so I won't be on until 3PM my time (New York City time) so whatever happens (especially since I will not be able to watch the episode until I get home) I DO NOT WANT TO COME HOME AND SEE MY GIRLS DESTROYED!!!
Please, please, please do not make me come back to this thread and have my heart broken,
Whatever the CTs show, have faith that it will all get better. 
Do not lose hope in our NivRen and do not lose faith in our Viren,
This is your choti behein Mahi asking you to do this for her.

Anyways... I can't stay for much longer since I was to wake up for classes tomorrow and I hope all your prayers and Duas are with me so I can do amazing this semester and be in the top ranking of the University and InshaAllah with all your prayers and hard work from my end, it will be possible. 

OH and this is a song that my brother's girlfriend (who is practically my sister in law) introduced me to and every time I hear it, it touches my heart. There's some connection between me and this song in which it just causes me to lose myself in it. It helps make me feel better and calms me down and I hope you girls enjoy it too....

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Posted: 19 January 2011 at 10:06pm | IP Logged
Yo finally watched the episode. Don't kill me, but it wasn't that bad. Don't have the energy to elaborate further, but yeah I'll say for a fact that at this juncture we are not at all sure what Viren's feelings for Nivi are in actuality. That's a million dollar question in my opinion. I was misled into thinking Viren doesn't love Nivi, which was really what I sort of disgorged out from my brief stint of skimming through the written update. However, what I managed to conclude after watching the episode was quite different in that we're still not aware of Viren's true intentions as far as Nivi is concerned. Sure he is using her, sure he is out to get Sid for some cryptic reason, but does he not love Nivi? That question still lingers. I have a feeling he does love her- beyond limits and selflessly. To me it looks like she is an obsession, a desire. I was thinking to when Viren first confesses his love for Nivi; sure his developing feelings of supposed love seemed a tad too abrupt but the fact of the matter here is that, at that point in time, Viren was not aware of Niviarth, right? Unless ofcourse that ignorance was pretense as well, I don't suppose Viren had any idea of their past love or even past friendship for that matter. Yet still he proclaimed to have fallen in love with her and even went on to NT for Nivi's hand. That seems dodgy with the current state of affairs in mind. 

I was never vociferous about this but I always wanted Viren's side of the story to be related to Nivi and Sid's childhood. I remember asking for some clarification on Niviarth's childhood friendship since I didn't watch the show from its inaugural but yeah having gathered some facts about them, I mused over the possibility that there was another side of the story to that angle aka Viren's tale. I imagined Sid and Putul and their ever increasing friendship. Then I imagined Viren. So it goes along the lines of the fact that as a kid Viren was flustered by Nivi, admiring as she would roam about here and there. He'd watch her from his window sill playing with Sid, and couldn't help but feel something for her. He'd want to talk to her, would want to spend time with her but would never get the chance because for Nivi it was Sid and for Sid it was Nivi. Viren being shy and reticent in nature exacerberated his troubles of mustering up the courage to talk to her beyond a simple greeting.  But time was the essence here. He knew or atleast felt that what he felt for Nivi was something way more than what he'd feel for a neighbour, an acquaintance or even a friend. He would occasionally mutter to himself the possibility of having fallen in love which is one day heard by CC. Not believing these turn of events and pondering over the consequences this could have in the future, she decides to send Viren off to boarding school leaving him totally shattered. He begs, he resents but she wouldn't listen. Then he threatens to take his life which only shocks CC more. But then she plays a nasty game and plays her cards; knowing Niviarth's increasing proximity as best of the pals, she coerces Viren into one such instance where Nivi and Sid happen to be playing and points out towards their blooming friendship being an omen for an everlasting bond of love. This totally shatters Viren whilst CC utlises this to her advantage and goes on telling him that Nivi's happiness lies with Sid prompting Viren to succumb to his pledge of keeping the smile on Nivi's face forever and never letting a crease of worry spread across her forehead. Knowing that he wouldn't be able to go about being inconspicuous about his love fore her, perhaps it was best for him to take his lodgings and go off to boarding school. What made this decision seem all the more necessary was Sid's constant blabbering about Nivi and how great she is. He just couldn't take it. He was no angel and wouldn't go about pretending to behappy for them. He needed to go away. Away from Nivi, away from Sid and away from this household which only seemed to be housing reverberations hailing Sid as the benefactor of the family, as the gifted kid destined to be on the road of success. And so he does- as he packs his bags and trudges down the steps, with CC closely behind him, he glances back one last time towards Nivi's house. Then praying a silent prayer in his heart to some day make Nivi realize his love for her, he finally sits in the car and closes the door and watched his house getting smaller and smaller in the distance as heads towards an unknown journey. 

OK so then what I imagined in my little narrative here is that, keeping the old school essence of boarding school LOL, he basically is a victim of childhood abuse from teachers, roomies and the likes which ultimately leads him to develop an inferiority complex, and leaves him morally, emotionally and mentally battered leading to his inexplicable behaviour, as we call it after seeing today's episode today. 

LOL That was just a little tale that I would often ponder about. I'm sure its filled with inconsistencies but honestly it's just a folklore and nothing more. But yeah I just felt like killing time so decided to be vocal about it :p

Damn I rambled on for too long. So where were we? Oh yeah the fact that I watched the episode LOL So yeah my point was that we still don't Viren's equation with Nivi and neither do we know about his troubled past. I am going to wait and be on a lookout for that before I give myself a break from the show (which I can't coz I find KinHa and NivRen adorable even with the current state of affairs. OMG the forehead kiss today was beyond descriptive :D Awwwww and the hugs! But the forehead kiss stole the show <3) 

Yeah. That's all LOL G'night everybody! This post is long :O

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