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Posted: 10 July 2011 at 9:53pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by JaspalToronto

^^^
Furthermore Summer ji likes roller coaster rides, don't you think thats a feminine character ?
 
Sorry again Summer ji.LOL
Hello Jaspal Bhai ji,
Waheguru kya mazak chal raha hai LOL
 
I read your impressive profile:
 
 

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Posted: 10 July 2011 at 10:49pm | IP Logged
Extremely disappointed with India giving up the chase. They should have promoted Dhoni, bhajji and PK up the order to see if they could tonk some runs. Then if they got out Laxman & Dravid could have stuck around and did what Chanders did. Why give up when there were so many wickets left?
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Posted: 11 July 2011 at 7:52pm | IP Logged

Anyway India did win.

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Posted: 11 July 2011 at 8:12pm | IP Logged
@RTH
 
I guess every Indian Cricket lover is upset with our batting performance on 5 th and final day. You see we had a major problem with our batting line up. Our star opening batsman (Delhi boys - gautam and varinder) were not playing. Murlee Vijay was struggling throughout this series and couldn't score any runs. Thus he was trying to improve his average and wanted to look good.
We lost Abhinav Mukand on very first ball of second innings. That was enough to put India on back foot. They became so defensive and forgot to play their strokes. All Windies bowlers were firing. Specially Edwards was swinging the ball in air and on surface and balled some beautiful in and out swingers. In these kind of situations Varinder Shewag is very effective who plays attacking cricket. He doesn't care if there were fielders at 4 slips, 2 gulleys, short point and cover. He can still find the boundry. He can demoralize any world class bowler.
 
I disagree that promoting Dhoni and Bhaji up in the batting order would make any difference. We have seen what happened to Raina. He scored only 8 runs. Pitch was turning and Rampaul was getting tremendous spin. Plus Dhoni couldn't afford to gamble as we  were up 1-0 in the series. 46 overs are lots of overs and all team can get out in that many overs. Its not easy to score quick runs in that format of game. I think Dravid and M. Vijay played sensible cricket in those conditions.       
 
     
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Posted: 11 July 2011 at 8:14pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Summer3

Anyway India did win.

Congrats Summer bhai.
India never managed to win more than one test match in Windies. LOL
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Posted: 11 July 2011 at 8:31pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by JaspalToronto

Originally posted by Summer3

Anyway India did win.

Congrats Summer bhai.
India never managed to win more than one test match in Windies. LOL
Ah I do not follow cricket, but read some news and sometimes watch on TV, when there is nothing else to watch.
Seems pretty difficult to hit a moving ball that is hurled at all angles.LOL
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Posted: 11 July 2011 at 10:49pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by JaspalToronto

@RTH
 
I guess every Indian Cricket lover is upset with our batting performance on 5 th and final day. You see we had a major problem with our batting line up. Our star opening batsman (Delhi boys - gautam and varinder) were not playing. Murlee Vijay was struggling throughout this series and couldn't score any runs. Thus he was trying to improve his average and wanted to look good.
We lost Abhinav Mukand on very first ball of second innings. That was enough to put India on back foot. They became so defensive and forgot to play their strokes. All Windies bowlers were firing. Specially Edwards was swinging the ball in air and on surface and balled some beautiful in and out swingers. In these kind of situations Varinder Shewag is very effective who plays attacking cricket. He doesn't care if there were fielders at 4 slips, 2 gulleys, short point and cover. He can still find the boundry. He can demoralize any world class bowler.
 
I disagree that promoting Dhoni and Bhaji up in the batting order would make any difference. We have seen what happened to Raina. He scored only 8 runs. Pitch was turning and Rampaul was getting tremendous spin. Plus Dhoni couldn't afford to gamble as we  were up 1-0 in the series. 46 overs are lots of overs and all team can get out in that many overs. Its not easy to score quick runs in that format of game. I think Dravid and M. Vijay played sensible cricket in those conditions.       
 
     


We really felt the absence of Sehwag and Gambhir in this test match. Sehwag especially, he would have really knocked the ball around. He may get out in the process, but he usually has rattled the bowlers, their line and length.

The pitch really had no demons. The fact that the West Indies tail wagged so long showed that the pitch was not a wicket taking pitch. It was just a very slow pitch where the ball was not coming onto the bat, so batsmen had to work harder. West Indies added to that challenge by bowling a very negative line. It was not attacking or wicket taking, but extremely defensive bowling. I think you meant Bishoo was getting a lot of turn? Rampaul is their pacer. Bishoo was turning a lot, but bowling around the legs. Batsmen were not even offering shots, just padding.

Promoting hitters up the order may or may not have worked, but it would have shown some amount of fight and spirit to try and win.  Even if we lost a few wickets, it was not a bad wicket. We could have played defensively and saved the game after at leas having tried. We gave up when there were 80 runs needed of 90 balls. Thats less than 6 an over. Even if not trying to force the pace right away, they could have prodded till 10 overs were left and then tried to hit out.

Giving up is not the characteristic of champions. Only the meek and fearful give up. We can't consider ourselves world champions if we just give up when winning looks difficult. Winning isn't everything, it is the only thing. You play fair, you play hard, you play respectably and honestly - but you play only to win. If winning is not the goal, then don't play at all. Might as well be playing on a minor league recreation team. Thats the only way sports ought to be played. Not playing to win disrespects the game, the opponents and your own abilities.


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Posted: 11 July 2011 at 10:59pm | IP Logged
HAHA! I exited the market with a pretty neat profit :D I rule. 

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