Posted: 04 June 2011 at 11:29am | IP Logged
Originally posted by return_to_hades
Where were you and your ethical highness when people call homosexuals perverts & sexual deviants & medically abnormal people? Would it be acceptable for me to call anyone here perverted, deviant or abnormal? Would I not be expected to prove it rationally and scientifically that you do suffer a perversion, deviant or abnormal? Without that I am nothing but a liar and slanderer?
Why is it that such name calling explicit or implicit is perfectly acceptable? A practice known in most societies as bullying and hate speech perfectly acceptable to you all?
But then all of a sudden when someone points out that repeatedly presenting the research of a total bull organization as scientific backing is dumb - then its all of a sudden against the rules?
You were a mod...u know the IF COC better than anyone else...calling names directly to members is not acceptable...I don't know if that has changed...calling a section of people as weird or perverted is somebody's OPINION...its different from calling a member a name directly...Regarding my stand on calling the gays as weird/perverted...you can go and read in the previous pages...I am totally against it...I have said that they are normal/nice people...I am not going to go over the same thing again and again...I had expressed my opinion and I am out of the debate...my only concern as a member is that name calling is becoming too common on this forum and nothing is being done about it...as a result people like me who have no interest in calling others names...have to resort to the same at times when provoked and I absolutely hate that...I have raised this point just as a member who is concerned of this becoming a trend...this has nothing to do with this debate...I hope u understand that
You don't like homosexuality? Fine!
You are uncomfortable with it? Fine!
You wish to have a society free of it? Fine!
There is a lot of personal reservations and apprehensions against homosexuality that is perfectly fine and acceptable as it is done within reasonable means, and you acknowledge your personal perception. However, presenting these perceptions as facts, especially as facts that demean the dignity of another human being is totally unacceptable. If people actually had an iota of conscience and an actual desire to play by the rules, and do the right thing - they would call out someone when they did the wrong thing irrespective of what side they are on. But clearly despicable attitude towards homosexuals is perfectly acceptable, but despicable attitudes towards homophobia is wrong!...I agree with you and like I said my comment was a general one and has nothing to do with this debate...
Yes, while its not outright calling someone dumb, questioning if someone is dumb is wrong as well. There are many ways to present a counter argument, disproving the facts and not attacking the person. That needs to be addressed. However, if there is addressing - I would expect both sides to be addressed and not just one. ...Thanks you...I know you r impartial...and u proved it..
I've got a lot more on my mind against a member which I do very hard not to say as it would all be blatant COC violations, despite it being factual. But, I don't believe I am breaking any rules in this post, I'm taking a stand and I am 100% willing to take the flak for it if it is unpalatable to people. I know I'm taking a risk with this bluntness, and I'm ready to receive any corrective action if people actually feel this crosses lines...I don't think u broke any rules...but thats for the mod to decide..