Posted: 04 June 2011 at 11:08am | IP Logged
Originally posted by blue-ice
Calling the members who do not agree with you...dumb and foolish is just not acceptable here in DM...we play by the rules mate...I hope this is not going to become a norm here...
Are you dumb? - A question of one's intellectual capacity.
You are dumb! - A statement of one's intellectual capacity.
Don't be dumb - A request to heighten one's intellectual capacity.
Why are you dumb? - A rhetoric on the creators intellectual capacity.
Its not a question of agreeing or disagreeing, its about the very basics of presenting an argument. King Anu disagrees with homosexuality, but he is respectful about it, he is not trying to construct a fake scientific argument. He presents his personal perceptions and thats acceptable. You have your objections, reservations as a mother and a member of society. Thats fine and acceptable.
Where were you and your ethical highness when people call homosexuals perverts & sexual deviants & medically abnormal people? Would it be acceptable for me to call anyone here perverted, deviant or abnormal? Would I not be expected to prove it rationally and scientifically that you do suffer a perversion, deviant or abnormal? Without that I am nothing but a liar and slanderer?
Why is it that such name calling explicit or implicit is perfectly acceptable? A practice known in most societies as bullying and hate speech perfectly acceptable to you all?
But then all of a sudden when someone points out that repeatedly presenting the research of a total bull organization as scientific backing is dumb - then its all of a sudden against the rules?
You don't like homosexuality? Fine!
You are uncomfortable with it? Fine!
You wish to have a society free of it? Fine!
There is a lot of personal reservations and apprehensions against homosexuality that is perfectly fine and acceptable as it is done within reasonable means, and you acknowledge your personal perception. However, presenting these perceptions as facts, especially as facts that demean the dignity of another human being is totally unacceptable. If people actually had an iota of conscience and an actual desire to play by the rules, and do the right thing - they would call out someone when they did the wrong thing irrespective of what side they are on. But clearly despicable attitude towards homosexuals is perfectly acceptable, but despicable attitudes towards homophobia is wrong!
Yes, while its not outright calling someone dumb, questioning if someone is dumb is wrong as well. There are many ways to present a counter argument, disproving the facts and not attacking the person. That needs to be addressed. However, if there is addressing - I would expect both sides to be addressed and not just one.
I've got a lot more on my mind against a member which I do very hard not to say as it would all be blatant COC violations, despite it being factual. But, I don't believe I am breaking any rules in this post, I'm taking a stand and I am 100% willing to take the flak for it if it is unpalatable to people. I know I'm taking a risk with this bluntness, and I'm ready to receive any corrective action if people actually feel this crosses lines.