Originally posted by: Darklord_RehanNARTH can cure homosexuality. eh?
Read this
Position of professional organizations on sexual orientation change efforts
Main Article: Sexual orientation change efforts
In 2009 anAmerican Psychological Association research summary[36] --
According to Psychiatric
News,survey in the journal Medical Aspects of Human Sexuality showed that 69 percent of
psychiatrists disagreed with the vote, and still considere d homosexuality a disorder. Bayer
remarks that the APA:American Psychological Association'which is three times larger than the
APA' voted to follow suit, and soon the National Association of Social Workers did likewise.
The seventh printing of the DSM in 1974 placed a special note that announced that the
APA had "voted to eliminate Homosexuality per se as a mental disorder and to substitute
therefor (sic) a new category titled Sexual Orientation Disturbance."VOTING= POLITICS😊(US lobby)The new entry read as
follows:
302.0 Sexual Orientation Disturbance [Homosexuality]
This is for individuals whose sexual interests are directed primarily toward people of the
same-sex and who are either disturbed by, in conflict with, or wish to change their sexual
orientation. This diagnostic category is distinguished f rom homosexuality, which by itself,does not constitute a psychiatric disorder. Homosexuality per se is one form of sexual
behavior, and with other forms of sexual behavior which are not by themselves
psychiatric disorders, are not listed in this nomenclature.Another:Homosexuality is an issue that has often been mishandled by therapists due to misinformation on the topic. Although not supported by the research, many therapists believe that homosexuality is solely biological in nature, and therefore unchangeable. Yet despite ongoing efforts, researchers have not discovered a biological basis for same-sex attractions. In fact, many researchers hypothesize that a homosexual orientation stems from a combination of biological and environmental factors.Genes + Brain Wiring + Prenatal Hormonal Environment = Temperament
Parents + Peers + Experiences = Environment
Temperament + Environment = Homosexual Orientationby Julie Harren, Ph.D., LMFT
Originally posted by: Darklord_RehanFrom the above theories/extracts of Hindu scriptures the following might be concluded :
1. Hinduism agrees that Homosexuality is not a choice but an inborn trait. --another word is Disorder peoples😆nvmd😉
2. Since its not a choice and consensual sex of any form doesn't harm anyone, it can not be considered a sin or crime against nature. The word nature itself is too vast to be confined into a particular definition. --No, In india, It offends believers!! As per Law these acts against current social system and society!
3. Homosexuality is NOT a Western Culture. It was very much present in India since time immemorial. Still these kind of things immoral in indian culture...In fact its Westerners who practiced narrow minded and conservative prosecution of gays and imposed such laws upon us and our minds. But unfortunately, today everyone thinks that our society is conservative and their's is liberal.
4. Kama Sutra explicitly describes ways and positions of Homosexual engagement, which proves that homosexual relations were not only present, but were ethically acceptable as well, in the Indian society of that time.-- I think I miss that pages...can you tell/give the link ,which page Vathsayana mention these things 😕
Originally posted by: Darklord_RehanCorrection - it offends fools, not believers. Those who believe in facts shall welcome it, as millions over the world has done. Those who wish to live in their own delusive world, oblivious from reasons or facts, will call it disorder or anomaly or even 'sin'.
If you are a atheist...thats also a type of belief...so you dont have any rights to say other believers are fools and other blah blah things...thats your foolishness..plz dont prove!!.
As I said a million times before, laws should be framed on the basis of broad minded sense of justice, equality and freedom, not some crap misconception or myth which has no factual or logical basis.Tell me the logic...you says American association is always Right ,I like NARTH studies...is it Wrong!!😊
I have quoted an extract from the text, which was there in the PDF article which I had mentioned. Plus, I had already posted earlier that homosexuality was acceptable in Indian society. I think this forum would not allow me, but I can show you stone-carvings of homosexuality and male-male oral and anal sex, from Indian historical/religious sites. I asked simple thing,Did you ever readed Vathsyana's KS!! then from Vathsyana's Kamasutra give me the page no/link as u mention above! ...just for reading!😊
Listen Believe ji, I have said this earlier, I don't want to bang my head on the wall. Those who are sleeping, I can wake them up. But those who have intentionally shut their eyes and ears, even God cannot help them anyway. --If you are sleeping am ready to wakeup you!!! You cant find the real truth when you believe blindly one logic!
So kindly don't bother quoting or replying. I am fed up reiterating the same points a hundred time, which has no effect on your adamant fallacies. -- If you say 100 times same thing, it doesn't mean you are right!!!😃 Anyway we are in different path!!.. I respect your thought...Keep it up!! Thank you!
Originally posted by: Darklord_RehanAre u dumb? ( Socha galiya dhu..phir socha kyu...😆but let me clear you something,this is Debate mansion anyone can say anything against your/anyone's views, ...If someone post against your thoughts, it doesnt mean they all are dump, or fools or narrow mind etc ...plz dont prove yourself again!!!...Cheers!!.)
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