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Posted: 12 January 2011 at 5:35am | IP Logged
Originally posted by anusha34

misti you always amaze me. you are a genius. i really love your venn diagram, it is truly fantastic!!  well i still don't know what category i fall into but i am on the same page as you when it comes to the confusion part. zee really messed everything up.


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Posted: 12 January 2011 at 5:38am | IP Logged
Originally posted by chalhov

http://www.india-forums.com/tellybuzz/buzzin-hot/8594-zindagi-gale-lagaalegi-hats-off-next-on-zee-tv.htm

ConfusedConfusedConfusedConfusedConfusedConfusedConfusedConfused  another show where is CB2  just like the venn diagram
Confused
 
 
I read it too thanks for sharing. I was so hoping to hear more about CB 2 shooting, instead we hear another show is already shooting. I'm getting worried about CB 2. What if Zee tv is playing games. I feel bad for the actors! Avinash and Rubina!! Just not fair!! They are so excited! I really don't know what to think!

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Posted: 12 January 2011 at 5:43am | IP Logged
Originally posted by chalhov

http://www.india-forums.com/tellybuzz/buzzin-hot/8594-zindagi-gale-lagaalegi-hats-off-next-on-zee-tv.htm

Confused  another show where is CB2  just like the venn diagram
Confused


Chalhov.......Zee is acting true to itself regarding CB. Until the channel itself says something about CB2 I am going to accept that nothing is ready. I know Avinash and Ruby have said that CB2 will start, and I am also not disbelieving them but the ultimate call is with the channel. This pin drop silence regarding CB2 from the channel  is conveying this message to me that they do not know how to progress with the second season.

As for the article, the interesting thing is two actors enacting prominant characters in their 7.30pm show are also going to be in this new show. Now is that a carrot for the CB audience to chew? Ermm


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Posted: 12 January 2011 at 6:01am | IP Logged
Mistiiiiiiii...Welcome back and i know i m verrry much late in doing so as myself  is out of picWink but nevertheless u always bring wave of cheers in  forum and now u hav whole forum rolling once again with your wits n amusing/amazing posts...not gone thru other of your threads but can say this is one of the best in recent timesBig smileLOL

Vennnn diagram...OMG  U best in Maths alsoWink I m not in that mental state to decide or crack this Venn puzzle and hence planning to apply for any of the Zee posts..u see they only hire harebrained people and currently i befit their requirement..

Coming back to the VD sets..intersections are too complex for me and i wud like to go with others "Those who realize there is nothing to understand" 
And now with news of another show coming up n no news of CB2 after flood of info leaked during Zee's bad times (which i still feel is continuing but they seems to hav some other conceptions..as always..), i believe all of CBians wud consider to lie outside the whole Zee/CB2 area..in the universe nothing to do with ZEEEE


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Posted: 12 January 2011 at 6:02am | IP Logged
Misti,
 
This is regarding the new show that is likely to take the JKR slot.  Lots of carrots to chew for the CB viewers.  First Laali's swayamvar, then Sudesh Berry's Maa exchange, Madhur's role in Paanch Bahuein,  RV and Gangiya  in this new show for which shoot has already begun-- so more or less the major cast of AJMBK are all with new jobs, it is an indirect info that AJ is likely to go off-air at the earliest.  But who is going to take its position is it CB or Paanch Bahuein which is also for a prime time slot or is CB going to be an afternoon slot?  Whether I believe the channel or the PH I want to believe Avinash that the promo shoot for CB has been done and the shoot likely to start.  It really bewilders me as to why we dont get any further info on CB alone?  Angry
 
P.S;  JKR likely to take some more time to close, as it has just moved into the war phase.  Anyway all this is the prerogative of the channel to antagonise the CB viewers and what they stand to gain by this, God alone knows.Angry 


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Posted: 12 January 2011 at 6:14am | IP Logged
Originally posted by radha_bilahari

Misti,
 
Absolutely correct venn diagram,  lots of them is so true for us and therefore to pin-point exactly is diificult.  But overall very much under the confused part.   Your answer to Angie is the perfect scenario, very similar to my thoughts written last week by me in some thread. 
but that is how confused the channel is   too.
 
Thanks Radha. It does look that the head honchos in Zee are confused and they do not know how to progress with CB2. If this is the case then it is defnitely not good news for CB2. They don't have the guts to openly say it and in this way are not only taking the audience but also the actors on a wild goose chase.


Slightly deviating from the main subject,   When the time is good so many things go unnoticed, but when the going is bad  it just comes to haunt you regularly.  Just to illustrate---when CB was launched at 730, due to some brilliant brain-wave  not much was expected out of it--they did not have competion at the slot,  the time was given for it to stabilise itself and the TRPs came for the show and it was one of the top-rated show,  the same could be said of AJMBK--both these shows worked well in tandem and laid a good cushion with the other existing shows  that it helped the channel reach the coveted top position.  Added to that the new shows that were subsuequently launched like PR, 12/24 KB, JKL and YMGGK all got enough time to stablilise themselves as the channel was already on the top.
 
This year only PR is doing good thanks to their PH who chose not to dance to the whims and fancies of the channel and a consistent CB though it was low asper the standards set by them, same can be said of JKR and YMGGK  but it is not enough to help the newer shows to establish themselves--like MNKR, Sangini and RMJ.  While MNKR is out of the equation, Sangini seems to be next in line.  When these shows dont do well, the blame is squarely on the female leads-- they get targetted in order to implement the changes---there was a flurry of news about the MNKR lead, we know that RMJ lead was also changed and I wont be surprised if BS gets changed in Sangini.  Y'day there was an article about BS's difiiculty to do some intimate scenes in Sangini and usual associated comments about it.  We repeatedly hear of stories about tough directors,  fights in the sets between 2 actors,  actors being very vocal about their unhappiness on their roles and what not.  Do we get to hear these gossips only when a channel does badly, is there a contribution from all sides to bring down the channel?

First if you look at PR...the story is progressing similarly to CB....I think the basic guideline from the channel regarding the progression of the plot is similar.......attempt to burn the main female leads, leap, problems in honeymoon....there are other broad similarities too. PR is also maintaining circles. The difference is how the PH is handling the script and here EK is way ahead of DJs. For example I think Shantanu was initially brought in as a stalker who admired and desired Radhika.....the female lead in PR also has a stalker but the way the story is being handled is nothing compared to CB creatives. EK is there for a long stay while DJs are after making quick money. Its a shame when DJs are also the makers of Banegi Apni Baat, a good show and I think it might have been their first.

As for others trying to bring channel down.....this is a cut throat business world and it is part and parcel of the game. I am sure Zee has also done this to other channels....but what I find bizarre with Zee is their habit of welcoming other channels to come and kick them and make fun of them. Why will the other channels give up this oppurtunity? Gossips and rumours about the the leads in the top shows in other channels are also printed.When news about  Stars 7.30pm show started coming out, did Zee ever think about checking this show and finding out what is it about. Although it is a remake of a very popular regional show, did Zee try to understand why this show is the top show in that region? Did Zee and DJs think how they can make CB better keeping the story true the main essence of the show? Or did it think in its arrogance that we are the leaders and nothing can touch us? That we will do what we want to do..take the audience on a wild goose chase and since we make the show the audience cannot do anything? Its good to be confident but not good to be over confident. Humility works, arrogance usually does not work for long.

 
What is going to be the fate of CB2?  CB2 is coming more on audience request--hence the expectations for it to do well right from the word go and it is going to be an extremely daunting task.  If CB2 has to do well it has to because of only good story line, scripting, editing, new sets, proper clothes and no glaring repetitions, and excellent side casts to support the leads---it cannot be for Avinash and Rubina alone that the people will buy the show,   If it gets launched at its original slot,  all the more difficult because it has to grab a chunk of the SGP viewers, and SGP currently is on ahigh note.  More than a question it is a huge worry---the bottom line is we want CB2 to do well. 

CB2? I am worried. It is the entire packaging of the show that makes a show last.
The lead actors will get the strong fan base but inorder for the show to do well it needs to attract viewers from the other rival shows and others who are not fans.............and for that there has to be a complete package.


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Posted: 12 January 2011 at 7:37am | IP Logged
Originally posted by misti73

Originally posted by radha_bilahari

Misti,
 
Absolutely correct venn diagram,  lots of them is so true for us and therefore to pin-point exactly is diificult.  But overall very much under the confused part.   Your answer to Angie is the perfect scenario, very similar to my thoughts written last week by me in some thread. 
but that is how confused the channel is   too.
 
Thanks Radha. It does look that the head honchos in Zee are confused and they do not know how to progress with CB2. If this is the case then it is defnitely not good news for CB2. They don't have the guts to openly say it and in this way are not only taking the audience but also the actors on a wild goose chase.

Didn't they do the same with Priyanka Mishra last year?  She was told that she is going to come back in few weeks.  I think initially the plan was to have ONS between her and Dev,  Radhika confessing to the first wedding, her getting kicked out and then Shantanu bringing back a pregnant Vishaka.  But, then due to audience protest, they scrapped the story and left her hanging.  Didn't have the decency to tell her that her role is chopped off.  Then, after Kanika track there were probably plans to bring her back as they were only interested in triangles.  But, then the show ended and she was quickly reformed and forgiven leaving audience frustated with the ending.



Slightly deviating from the main subject,   When the time is good so many things go unnoticed, but when the going is bad  it just comes to haunt you regularly.  Just to illustrate---when CB was launched at 730, due to some brilliant brain-wave  not much was expected out of it--they did not have competion at the slot,  the time was given for it to stabilise itself and the TRPs came for the show and it was one of the top-rated show,  the same could be said of AJMBK--both these shows worked well in tandem and laid a good cushion with the other existing shows  that it helped the channel reach the coveted top position.  Added to that the new shows that were subsuequently launched like PR, 12/24 KB, JKL and YMGGK all got enough time to stablilise themselves as the channel was already on the top.
 
This year only PR is doing good thanks to their PH who chose not to dance to the whims and fancies of the channel and a consistent CB though it was low asper the standards set by them, same can be said of JKR and YMGGK  but it is not enough to help the newer shows to establish themselves--like MNKR, Sangini and RMJ.  While MNKR is out of the equation, Sangini seems to be next in line.  When these shows dont do well, the blame is squarely on the female leads-- they get targetted in order to implement the changes---there was a flurry of news about the MNKR lead, we know that RMJ lead was also changed and I wont be surprised if BS gets changed in Sangini.  Y'day there was an article about BS's difiiculty to do some intimate scenes in Sangini and usual associated comments about it.  We repeatedly hear of stories about tough directors,  fights in the sets between 2 actors,  actors being very vocal about their unhappiness on their roles and what not.  Do we get to hear these gossips only when a channel does badly, is there a contribution from all sides to bring down the channel?

First if you look at PR...the story is progressing similarly to CB....I think the basic guideline from the channel regarding the progression of the plot is similar.......attempt to burn the main female leads, leap, problems in honeymoon....there are other broad similarities too. PR is also maintaining circles. The difference is how the PH is handling the script and here EK is way ahead of DJs. For example I think Shantanu was initially brought in as a stalker who admired and desired Radhika.....the female lead in PR also has a stalker but the way the story is being handled is nothing compared to CB creatives. EK is there for a long stay while DJs are after making quick money. Its a shame when DJs are also the makers of Banegi Apni Baat, a good show and I think it might have been their first.

As for others trying to bring channel down.....this is a cut throat business world and it is part and parcel of the game. I am sure Zee has also done this to other channels....but what I find bizarre with Zee is their habit of welcoming other channels to come and kick them and make fun of them. Why will the other channels give up this oppurtunity? Gossips and rumours about the the leads in the top shows in other channels are also printed.When news about  Stars 7.30pm show started coming out, did Zee ever think about checking this show and finding out what is it about. Although it is a remake of a very popular regional show, did Zee try to understand why this show is the top show in that region? Did Zee and DJs think how they can make CB better keeping the story true the main essence of the show? Or did it think in its arrogance that we are the leaders and nothing can touch us? That we will do what we want to do..take the audience on a wild goose chase and since we make the show the audience cannot do anything? Its good to be confident but not good to be over confident. Humility works, arrogance usually does not work for long.

Also, Ekta Kapoor's serials have storylines of side characters.  So, even though her characters are also ping-ponging with the exception of few,  at least there are other storylines to pursue and hence when some story is not working, they move on to side characters. 

As far as burning etc., triangles etc is concerned,  Zee is doing this in almost all their serials.  They showed burning in other serials too with the main lead rescuing worthless characters.  I don't watch any of their other serials but am familiar with storyline of couple of them.  No logic remains in their show either from the very beginning or after a serial is one year old. 
 
What is going to be the fate of CB2?  CB2 is coming more on audience request--hence the expectations for it to do well right from the word go and it is going to be an extremely daunting task.  If CB2 has to do well it has to because of only good story line, scripting, editing, new sets, proper clothes and no glaring repetitions, and excellent side casts to support the leads---it cannot be for Avinash and Rubina alone that the people will buy the show,   If it gets launched at its original slot,  all the more difficult because it has to grab a chunk of the SGP viewers, and SGP currently is on ahigh note.  More than a question it is a huge worry---the bottom line is we want CB2 to do well. 

CB2? I am worried. It is the entire packaging of the show that makes a show last.
The lead actors will get the strong fan base but inorder for the show to do well it needs to attract viewers from the from other rival shows and others who are not fans.............and for that there has to be a complete package.

It is similar to what happened to Hiten's fans.  Initially, they came with a lot of excitement but then left the show after finding a lousy characterization of Shantanu.  Same is the fate of leads of other show that was started with such fanfare by DJs and Zee and the one that used CB's sets.  That show is really rated low despite the popularity of two veteran lead actors.  I think the show has not been able to attract anybody other than the die-hard fans. 


As far as CB2 is concerned, if it comes then it would probably be introduced in place of Agle Janam so that they can compete with SGP. 

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Posted: 12 January 2011 at 7:39am | IP Logged
Originally posted by chipak

Mistiiiiiiii...Welcome back and i know i m verrry much late in doing so as myself  is out of picWink but nevertheless u always bring wave of cheers in  forum and now u hav whole forum rolling once again with your wits n amusing/amazing posts...not gone thru other of your threads but can say this is one of the best in recent timesBig smileLOL

Vennnn diagram...OMG  U best in Maths alsoWink I m not in that mental state to decide or crack this Venn puzzle and hence planning to apply for any of the Zee posts..u see they only hire harebrained people and currently i befit their requirement..

Coming back to the VD sets..intersections are too complex for me and i wud like to go with others "Those who realize there is nothing to understand" 
And now with news of another show coming up n no news of CB2 after flood of info leaked during Zee's bad times (which i still feel is continuing but they seems to hav some other conceptions..as always..), i believe all of CBians wud consider to lie outside the whole Zee/CB2 area..in the universe nothing to do with ZEEEE


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Thanks Chipak for the welcome. Tongue When did Zees good times come back?  Oh you meant that Zee thinks its good times are back.....now if I say that sun rises from the west, it won't be true will it? Wink  You are most welcome to take my brain...but I should give you a warning that it does have a mind of its own and can lead you on some weird journeys.Tongue

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