Laagi Tujhse Lagan


Laagi Tujhse Lagan
Laagi Tujhse Lagan

CV's ultimate stroke of grace for our beloved LTL?

KavitaDR Senior Member

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Posted: 07 January 2011 at 6:39am | IP Logged

LTL crossed another milestone today. But unlike former occasions when we have rejoiced because CVs would have marvelled us with a resurgence bordering on vindication in terms of treatment and compelling many on the verge of giving up on the show to do a u-turn, today, they embarked on the ultimate and sacrilegious dismantling of a love story full of flaws, but infinitely beautiful nonetheless, as it allowed us on a journey into the minds of the protagonists and made us experience the events in their screen lives. This had, rarely, been attempted with such intensity on Indian TV almost creating a benchmark for Indian soaps. Unfortunately, the CVs have never been consistent and it seems that they can no longer halt the downwards slope with the sudden introduction of a parallel track which will spell the death of the initial storyline. Indeed, since when did members of a Don's family ever call upon the police authorities for help to find the Don himself and the perpetrators of crime against him? All this murky business is supposed to be sorted using a highly organised and internal justice/tracking system which has never failed in the underworld. Yet, Nakusha decides to take things in her hands breaking rules that have been the backbone of Dutta's criminal empire. It is painful but I feel that the time has come for a pre-emptive post-mortem, if and when, MR quits in February and, more importantly, with the sudden introduction of convoluted tracks adding to a number of others that have been sidelined or simply forgotten altogether by the CVs.


Could it be that LTL finally bowed down to the dreaded "Ektaish edicts" for Indian soaps? What went wrong and how did it all start and how does MR "quitting" the show add up to the general sensation of malaise and the insidious feeling that there is much more behind the scenes? Also, how do we explain the protracted silence from all those concerned, the PH, the CVs, the Channel and more, importantly, Mishal Raheja himself, who we have no doubt, is a complete professional. He has, however, made a mistake by failing to give a statement regarding the uproar the TB article has produced among fans in general. Having been closely associated with the media world for some years, I can, safely, vouch for the fact that any self-respecting PH or creative team working within the strict precincts of commercial TV, would have come forward, to at least clear the air, as all the speculations will, eventually, prove to be very damaging for the show, and yet, they chose to stay quiet since the story blew up. Could it be that there has always been a sense of disconnect between the way the audience think and the CVs/PH/Channel's orientation for the show. Something does not exactly seem right somewhere....As regards, Mishal Raheja, enough has been said on the Forum these last few day as to the powerhouse of talent that he represents among the current crop of actors on screen or the respect we have for any decisions he takes to pursue his career. Hence the positive encouragement he has garnered among fans, should he really be quitting LTL in February. However, he owes it to the same adoring fans to come clear in the interest of the image of integrity he has always projected for his craft.

The story so far and when did it start going pear-shaped?

I will not re-hash the whole story as we all agree that despite all the drag fests, (especially Supriya's protracted wedding preparations or the Ganesh Utsav track) LTL evolved and managed to hold and sway the majority audience. A moving tale of metamorphosis, LTL conquered because of its subtle and unadulterated romanticism between two souls aspiring for love, boundless, infinite, characterised by detachment, mystery, and freedom from the material. LTL was a first as it had the guts to tell us a story of dualities, between the pure abstract sensation and the literal, between the crowd and the alienated individual, between man and nature, between the rational and the irrational, the dream, real and fantasy. In short, this was a tale of stasis and change between two diametrically opposed individuals born to complete each other, yet emphasising personal feelings through fierce individualism and emotional expression. We, often, raged at the pace the story evolved but we relished every moment, every expression, and every exchange and applauded the CVs for the many instances when they showed love as a perception almost akin to the third dimension.

Convoluted and incomplete tracks

NOTE: I would like to say Thank you to Aneesa (nizam13) for her input on this aspect of LTL as she has been, repeatedly, reiterating her concerns like many others on the bloopers, the omissions that would have added more contextual layers to the story and avoid the death of the essence of the story.

It was, unfortunately, too good to be true and the slope downwards once they introduced the many convoluted tracks as from September seemed inevitable.  Indeed, post the introduction of DP's character, LTL's storyline took a plunge with the CVs starting to play yoyo with the characters.  The centrality which defined Dutta and Nakusha's characters, even Baaji's to a certain extent up to that time seemed to shift. Many on the forum may disagree but it would seem that there has been an unconscious attempt at "dumbing down" Dutta's character. Had it not been for MR's ability to play on the subtle nuances with a unique depiction of emotions, any other actor would have fallen in a heap.  Nakusha's persona, also suffered, with the many aspects of her single-minded passion and the wonderful wisdom/philosophy she imparted to D about everyday life's hardships that was shown from January onwards to the end of the DP track sidelined. I could argue the same for Baaji's character, so full of life from January up to the beginning of DP's track that, somehow, got lost in translation.  I move on to the dynamics between Babi and Naku which may have jarred because of overkill on Babi's part but her departure seems to have left a void with a sensation of a missing link along with Sethji's playfulness.  And what do I say about Kishore, Leela, Roops and Madhu, relegated to being peripheral characters who we could very well do without if we are to judge by the screen space they have had. The story was always about Nakusha and Dutta, one may counteract, but even they seem to have become secondary to the plot with the footage given to the Kala track and the sudden parachuting of Sudarshan as an appendage to move the story forward.  We are disappointed that for reasons best known to the CVs, LTL which did balance the negative aspect of the storyline with Kala (No major contentions) because of the need to show the conflict between Good and Evil. But why give the impression that it is Kala who is now calling the shots in the whole plot and its dynamics in relation to Dutta, Nakusha, Baaji or AS.  
Selective amnesia/Stagnation

Could it be that the main actors, especially, MR may feel neglected with these clear indicators pointing towards the dilution of his character, and the, subsequent plot assassination we have witnessed?  And, how do we react to the inclusion with fanfare of so many insignificant tracks which fell apart from the word go and never made any significant contribution to the storyline? I would cite the theories of the Badi Hasti (confined to history), the mystery surrounding AS magnanimousness, DP's letter to Dutta, Madhu's entry, a tentative transformation of Roops etc. There was so much material left untapped that would have given life to a show that has been sadly stagnating for the six months out of the 12 it has been on air now. Boredom, a feeling of helplessness is bound to creep in on the sets and affect the morale of the actors, especially, those like MR who has clearly invested a large part of his own persona to give credibility and a larger than life perspective to Dutta's character. I, for one, do not blame him, if he, confirms, that he is leaving the show. Judging by what we have seen as the deconstruction of LTL as a love story with dark shades is concerned, it would not be presumptuous of us to argue that CVs can only beat a dead horse up to a certain point and it would be in the interest of the story to see the happy culmination of Dutta and Nakusha's love, and stop the destruction of a beautiful, deeply moving, and incredibly inspiring TV show without thoughts for all the hard work everyone on the sets would have put in this venture. I have learnt from LTL that love is patience, love is endurance, love is not just after one's own benefits and that love shines. And this is the memory that we want to cherish and will refrain from even speculating on a laughable parallel track with an undercover cop.

I have added links of other threads where I have dealt with the theme of Deconstuction with specific reference to some episodes in the recent months and feel that the above, actually, constitutes a logical follow-up after the distress we have seen on the Forum this week.


 I am sorry for the length of the post but summing up so much is a difficult task and I would be grateful if you would bear with me.
Ur comments pleaseEmbarrassed 

Edited by KavitaDR - 08 January 2011 at 6:54pm

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Fishfish IF-Dazzler

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Posted: 07 January 2011 at 7:27am | IP Logged
Me :) will read and come back....
Dear Kavita,
First things first...your writing is just wonderful..lets appreciate that first.ClapClap  Now for the post....
When I got to see LTL, it was sometime in October when DP was dying, Dutta going to meet his father....and Kala killing DP before his time (injecting poison)  what I liked about it was the still eyes of the actor, he was emoting so much more without any words...since I was travelling I did not get to see all the episodes but then I remember one instence I think he was sitting in his room subsequently and there was an envelope with his name on it...Dutta Sriram Patil...a drop of tear fell ...I think the only drop in the memory of his father....
Anyway after returning home I did catch up with some episodes randomly but then at times the show dragged so much you lose interest and then of course you get busy with your day to day life, you don't get the chance nevertheless from whatever I have seen I liked the first marriage track, the jungle track and the anna track, DP track could be much more better swinging between his hate for his father and his anger that he choose to come back but frankly speaking the FR track could have been much much better as for one it was the most important track of the show.....and secondly suddenly I felt the creatives did not know what to do with people like Madhu, Kishore, Leela and Roops....even Baji became obsolete to certain extent...yes Dutta was upset but things would have been more interesting to watch that the other family members creating situations where Dutta and Naku's path often cross and they are stranded together something something...Madhu's role could have got highlighted....after giving two beautiful scenes like the thali dropping and Madhu coming in instead of Nkau, the creatives suddenly did not know what to do so they turned to very Ektaish kind of track, the Kalavati track, the weakest and the most horrible of all the tracks....yes I am sorry to say Kalavati's character is very very dumb...we would have sympathised with her if she felt what we call sibling jealousy for she lost her father young and her Ayi Sahib loves her cousin brother more.  Regarding Badi Hasti, undefined characters have no meaning and I will hate if they turn Ayi Sahib into Badi hasti for me she is a mother with difference because she loved the son of the killer of her husband like her own child for she did not blame him for his father's crime.
Now regarding MR - As already written in several of my posts I watch the show for MR, period.  Yes I am unhappy he is leaving but I will be very happy if the show comes to a logical end with his departure.  I do write stories and for me every story must have a logical end and tell a story as long as people are interested in hearing it.  Dutta's character is a rarely well defined and sketched role in Hindi Tellydom for male leads.  MR has done full justice to it but then to give high profile performance and watch your character butchered is not easy for any actor.  I remember in KS, Ram Kapoor did full justice to Jai Walia's role when the show started...later he became a puppet in the hands of the women around him, I remember watching him we used to feel bad, kya se kya ban gaya bechara....
MR for all his good work deserves better....and for him not opening his mouth Kavita, this in India, and I heard bollywood is very camp oriented with full of bitching and back is best he keeps quiet and let his work speak for himself.....thanks again for the lovely post Tin

Edited by tintiny - 07 January 2011 at 8:05am

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divy609 IF-Dazzler

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Posted: 07 January 2011 at 7:37am | IP Logged
Beautiful Analysis Kavita.....Big smile
It's mostly the creative differences because of which MR is leaving How I wish they could be solvedUnhappy

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prettywoman Goldie

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Posted: 07 January 2011 at 7:45am | IP Logged

Hi Kavi


I am amazed by how well you can write and that too logically.. I don't think I can reply to a post like this even in a million years as it is too indepth and questioning so many things!


But as u have quoted that love is endurance and love is patience is what LTL has taught you and me too, let's just give the show a bit more of that now.. I completely agree that the DP track was a complete waste of time and we as viewers don't care if PH/Channel was responsible for this as ultimately it is LTL and its viewers who have suffered.. of course, actors also suffer esp someone as talented and hardworking as MR as he seems like the one who wants a challenge every day.. To be honest, I was wondering a while ago, that would MR get tired of the track now as it is fairly similar to the track we had after first marriage..ok, there are differences as this time around he is angry that she hid the truth, but trust her and her love.. whereas after first marriage, he hated her as could not believe someone to whom he had opened his heart out could back stab him and he passed the verdict of guilty without even letting her speak..but in terms of creative satisfaction I have wondered whether he felt the two tracks to be fairly similar..


But all said and done, I still think we should give it a bit more time..MR not commenting about all this in the media is definitely telling me that some things are not set in stone yet.. maybe there is still scope for him to return and which is why we need to keep pushing our appeals/petitions so that the channel/PH wake up.. so, I am not going to write off the show just yet..


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notsorry Senior Member

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Posted: 07 January 2011 at 7:58am | IP Logged

KavitaDR - Agree with all your points. Since I do not contribute much to posts, I just wanted to add some of my thoughts though they may mirror yours.  Although the story began with Nakusha in the Basti December 2009, the life of the LTL storyline started with the introduction of Dutta January 27th 2010. The persona, the posture, the non-verbal communication with the use of his eyes that he emoted captivated the LTL fans and though his mannerism was scripted and directed, MR's dedicated contribution added much more resonance to this character and the entire LTL story. It appears that when this LTL story started, the LTL creative team did not know that this unusual story would grab the attention and interest of many well educated professionals who saw the makings of memorable serial which would forever stay in the hearts of many.  LTL, from the first episode and the emergence of greatness in the story beginning in January depicted the much needed beautiful relationships/connection between the main characters that most real humans need in their everyday life.  This story in the first few months showed the meaningful brotherly love/relationship between non-blood related people(Dutta and Baji), the caring non-blood related brother/sister love (Kishore and Nakusha). The brotherly/sisterly love of Sethji and Nakusha.  The warmth of big brother/younger brother interactions and role model (Baji and Sethji) although they were not blood related.  Mother/daughter love who were also close friends(Babi and Nakusha) and mother/son immense love (AS and Dutta). Most importantly, the beautiful soulful relationship between strangers intially, who became friends and eventually fell in love with the subtle magic most dream off despite the difference in both their worlds (Dutta and Nakusha) Most would agree that the virtues from these kind of relationships are the keys to human coexistence, survival and eternal happiness.  Instead, the essence of this beautiful story began to disintergate after the 1st week of the DP track.  Much emphasis was put, time wise into the Supriya track(Feb to Mid May) 3+ months that gave so much screen space to Kala and again following the DP track from October to date the emphasis on Kala/Suds. Although the Supriya track was so needed, it should not have taken up so much time which started with a "hatred" storyline then becoming outright psychotic during and after the DP track, taking up another 3+ to 4 months to this day of LTL time. In all close to 6-7 months were used for unneeded episodes.  LTL's beauty changed when hatred and outright psychotic emotions were introduced.  I am at loss as to why LTL CV's felt that hatred instead of the loving relationships would captivate and retain an audience. I will still hope though if MR stays and LTL continues that LTL CV's would visit this forum more frequently (if they do at all) for assitance with the carrying the story forward and as you, KavitaDR has mentioned make an Indian Television benchmark.  Thanks so much for all the dedicated time and love you have put into your creative and analytical posts since you began in September.

Edited by nizam13 - 08 January 2011 at 9:48am

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Anu-Reddy IF-Sizzlerz

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Posted: 07 January 2011 at 8:34am | IP Logged
Kavitha.........Amazing analysis and I agree with each and every word of yours.
Nakku going to a cop for help is a shame to say the least. She should be the last person to run to a cop to save her ganster husband.  She has enuf of her men to do the task. When she and her husband were stuck in Jungle, did Baaji take cops help to trace them? No right then why this sudden "cop" entry to save dutta?. Cop is needed in this story as its abt a ganster, so cop will come in a package..........but to save dutta? Thats as ridiculous as it sounds.
I totally agree with u abt Dutta's character taking a back seat and actually , being "dumb" for the most part.  Kala walks in and out of his well guarded house at midnights and Dutta isnt aware?. Kala spends lakhs and lakhs feeding ppl to trap Dutta and Dutta isnt aware?. Kala has a whole drink setup in her house and Dutta isnt aware?. Suds smuggles off things and he isnt aware............lot of incidents and Dutta made to seem dumb. No wonder Actor got frustrated if he is , i mean.
Kala is a dumb woman, but is glorified to seem like she is the smartest of all. Thats called heights of ridicle.  She is unfit to be called evil. None of her plans worked. She is instead given undue imp in this story and she eats up our screen time with her bakwasiyath. She and her stupid challenges to Nakku........oh well, we could live without all that isnt it?.
The characters lost their charm at the face revelation track.......and I ought it to the bappa track. It was dragged like a elastic string to no end, no wonder by the end of it, it tarnished all the characters atleast a bit if not totally.
Som ppl here in the forum argued that they can watch a replacement. Some said show was fine without dutta ROFL. I for one dont remember watching this show without dutta. It was only the first one month that there was no dutta and iam sure none were interested in the soap at that time, i for one wasnt. 
Ppl who want to see a replacement are more than welcome, but I wouldnt and as per my poll it feels that like many wont watch a replacement either. A replacement can be good or bad but it will NEVER be the same. I want it to be the same.......otherwise all the good memories associated with the soap will go down the drain. Once the flavor is lost, there is no way me or anyone else, go watch the previous 1 yr episodes with the same interest. 
Its better to wrap the show with a logical end than showing a cop , Nakku-cop or , new Dutta-Nakku ......... If they want to continue , they can so well do it. Its possible to continue...........but iam sure many loyal audience will opt out of it in no time. Proof is our live update thread, already. None are watching it with the same interest and that if any , should be an indication on its own............

Edited by Anu-Reddy - 07 January 2011 at 8:34am

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Fishfish IF-Dazzler

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Posted: 07 January 2011 at 8:55am | IP Logged
Yes Anu, 
My family is surprised that at 8.30 I am in front of the pc and not TV...campaigning to end the show with good memories alongwith MR's departure.  Yes the show will NEVER be the same with MR as Dutta...period....

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loveumishal Senior Member

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Posted: 07 January 2011 at 9:15am | IP Logged

Kavita - very true !! Already LTL has started it's downfall today....

It wasnt dutta's danda's usool....that was broken today...LTL's usool only...
I guess what they are plannin may be like this...
Undercover cop enters ....
Dutta comes PN
Undercover cop also falls in love with Nakku....
Dutta with the help of undercover cop will eliminate enemies...initially he will be enemy with cop...may be feelin jealous of him also...
Nakku n Dutta ...lives happily for some time ..say till FEB end...
Mishals exit.... Remove dutta again...this time never to come back...
slowly develop the feelings b/n cop n nakku....
---- This guy has been brought in early so that viewers are kind of used to him , by the time Mishal exit from the show.....
-------I cant bear this ...the day Mishal exit out of LTL ~ I am out of LTL as well as indian serials....

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