Posted: 09 January 2011 at 10:20pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by EatPrayLove
I know, I know. The judges are maybe judging them individually. But you forget that there are the greater judges, with more power, and that is the audience. The audience is definitely not being so kind. They're obviously going to compare. I do that, too. Even when I vote for Chang, there is this strange urge to vote for Sushant also as he is the most deserving, and ultimately I do end up throwing atleast one vote in the way of a guy who has the entire female popl of India voting for him, when my poor Chang could have so much more use for that single vote.
Abhi you say to someone ki Ragini deserves to win, or maybe Ankita deserves to win, and the obvious answer will be a reminder that there is THE Sushant Singh Rajput in the competition, and who can perform better than him and claim to deserve the JDJ trophy?! Bas yahi baat hai. People will vote for Sushant, he deserves those votes, but the other contestants seem weaker in comparison for no fault of their own, just because of Sushant's training which is so conspicuous in his performances. I mean, the guy dances like he's a professional.
Aha!!! You actually said what I had written in another post a few days ago--- your statement in pink. You statement in pink is the only threat to Sushant winning this contest- truly speaking, cos there are always two sides to a coin. One is what you've written above, second is what I'm writing below.
By the final stages of the competition, the untrained dancer gets quite good, and it is then that people start feeling sympathetic for him-- whom to vote for becomes a dilemma then--- one who knew dancing beforehand or one who has learnt it in JDJ???---- pretty much the same as everyone in the forum feels. The forum's thinking is a representation of the mindset of the voting population. In the final rounds, the sympathy starts creeping in for the untrained dancer, no matter now hard the trained one worked. And not just sympathy, people strongly feel the untrained one deserves to win, like here in the forum. IT was most evident in the first season of Jhalak Dikhla Jaa, when Mona Singh and and Sweta Salve were left for the finals. The channel deliberately reiterated this point again and again, and newspaper articles were carried out about how Sweta was trained and Mona was not. The other contestants were interviewed and they too said they were voting for Mona not Sweta, despite the fact that Sweta had nearly always been the highest scorer in every round. Yes, we can debate here that Mona was popular, but so was Sweta (Left Right Left was a youth craze then), and somewhere this dilemma cum controversy too was responsible for Mona's victory along with her popularity--- I was a silent member of the forum then and I read articles on how everyone said Mona, not Sweta, deserved to win.
Plus in the end stages, what usually happens is that the supporters of the eliminated contestant start favouring the enemies' enemy---- I'm sorry to put it that way, but this is what I saw last time on the forum when Hard Kaur was eliminated and KSG remained. Some people were angry that KSG remained cos he was popular and an excellent one like HArk Kaur had to bow out, so they started rooting for Baichung, wanting him to defeat KSG by the same weapon--- mass popularity. (No offence to supporters/fans of either group, this is an impartial assessment of what I saw, not my own views on JDJ 3.)
Frankly speaking, I feel Sushant has everything going for him to get votes from the public, except this point. Right now people enjoy his performances and vote for him so that he can remain, but when it comes to deciding the final winner in the last episode, the support of the people going to the untrained dancer is a high probability, just as it happened in the case of Sweta Salve. This is what scares me--- if his training is helping him now, it may turn against him in the final stages of the competition, cos nobody knows if his fan base will be sufficient enough to help him then.
And to be honest, I don't think the scores will be on an individual basis any longer. The competition will get tougher and so will the judges and ultimately comparisons will come into the foray.For this we'll have to wait and see. I hope they evaluate the concepts comparatively, but dancing individually.
See I think that the thing is, you are seeing thing's from Sushant's POV, and I'm doing that from the other contestant's viewpoint. Sushant ki taraf se I'd say ki koi galti nahi hai, he's totally right in participating and it's not his fault at all. But then what have the other contestants DONE to have someone like Sushant thrown in competition with THEM!?
Again, from Sushant's
POV, shows like JDJ are pretty much the only option for him. Bu consider
things from the OTHER side, think about how tough and unfair the
presence of dancers like Sushant makes it for the other contestants to
I'm sorry I'm not being very detailed in my reasoning I'm really pressed for time.
You're making me feel bad for the other contestants now!!! Please don't make me switch loyalties!!!
On a serious note, yes, I tried to point out Sushant's POV cos most of the forum members don't try to think that way. But I don't really see JDJ from Sushant's POV--I usually see JDJ using Baichung as a model--- I feel he is a standing example of how to win JDJ---he was untrained, never danced in his life, camera shy, so much like Akhil-- but had an excellent choreo and lakhs of people rooting for him. His choreo Sonia capitalised on his plus points--- agility on the football field and undying determination--- and gave him moves that would suit him, and came up with interesting concepts. And I feel, if Baichung and Sonia could do it, others can do it too. They need to concentrate on their strengths rather than feel bad that there's someone more trained than them--- it will get them nowhere. Like I said before, I appreciate all of them, cos I myself dance badly. But yes, pulling down one contestant, for no fault of his own, is not something I like.I agree, sometimes the posts are mere statements with no reasons, which can be highly annoying.I'm glad you see my point here. Precisely the reason why I got a little flustered when I saw this post. The topic starter hasn't posted again after that to discuss on the issue at all. Yes, that's defo completely wrong. After all, it's none of Sushant's fault that he is trained as opposed to the other contestants. So if anyone is bashing Sushant for this stupid reason, well, they're being stupid, that's all I can say.
It was very nice discussing and analysing both sides of the coin with you Sonakshi!!! I guess now its the time to agree to disagree.
Edited by nikitagmc - 09 January 2011 at 10:35pm