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Posted: 06 January 2011 at 3:08am | IP Logged

Ok.. back now as still can't let go.. as ksh said, last night the thought that crossed my mind was exactly the same as yours.. ki MR tumne hum sab ki neend haram karke khud chaian ki neend so rahe hoge na! but I regretted it as soon as the thought came to my mind.

 

As a viewer for the past year he has enthralled us with his magnificent performance of Dutta. I don't think I can write anymore than what all of us have put down in this forum regarding that. We all agree of that. But now that he has chosen to leave, I know all of us are upset. Some extremely sad, some angry, some numb, some shocked, some hating him..and all these emotions stem from the single fact that he has always been loved tremendously by every single one of us on the forum. It is due to our extreme love for him that we are seeing all these reactions. People react differently as not one person is like the other. Even the ones hating his decision are not cursing him or wanting him to not do well, I can vouch on that. I don't think I am wrong in saying that there is not one person on this forum who does not want to see Mishal successful. He has been a part of our lives and it would be a huge boost for us to see him achieve every possible success in life as he is 'our' Mishal, right?! Mishal has always given us plenty to cheer about in the last year and he does not need any negativity at this point in his career from us of all people.

 

Now coming to a slightly sensitive topic of why some of us are/were angry at him for leaving. Initially I was shocked, then felt really hurt and cheated. But then I sat back and started analysing and realised I am making decisions and forming opinions without knowing all the facts. No one is guilty until proven and we feel this guy is already guilty when at this point in time I have no reason to hold him guilty. I do not know any of the things that have been going on behind the scenes. I do not know if MR had agreed in June that he will quit in Dec and then agreed a further 2 months. I do not know whether he was unhappy with the story line. I do not know whether he has anything in hand. I do not know whether he was promised anything by channel/PH and that did not materialise. I don't have access to any info on why MR chose to quit. So, unless someone from the PH and MR himself clarify why he is leaving, I am going to give the guy a break. I cannot pass a verdict on him when I don't have anything from his side in his defence. So until then, I shall wait. I am sure he will soon clarify his stand.. until then, let's just sit back and sit a deep breath. That is the least we can do for the guy who gave us Dutta bhao, isn't it?

 

I am in no way trying to say that him leaving the show is good or correct, but do not want to blame him until I know for sure why he is leaving and whether the concerned parties were given enough notice etc. But whatever be the outcome of that, there is no denying that he is a fab actor whoc will make a mark for himself and I would like to wish him loads of luck and happiness for his future. he needs all our well wishes in such a crucial point in his career and we know you will make us all proud...

Ultimately, I would like for him to extend his leaving by maybe a couple of months or so and the cv's can work out a way to bring a proper and deserving closure to tasha and LTL as that is the least we can hope for 

I have no intention to hurt anyone with my comments, so pls do not take it in the wrong way.

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Posted: 06 January 2011 at 3:19am | IP Logged
Originally posted by SAraW



I have a  question from those who are speaking in defense of Mishal/ Actors, Where does a viewer stand ? If one is interested in the story/Characters and had been following the show from the beginning and had been patient till  now and just because of his ambitions A viewer  give up  a Show  to which he/she has been connected for a year  ?? What abt us?? What you are saying or feeling is not wrong. There are 3 parties involved here - MR, PH & Viewers. And all these 3 parties have different interests. And all the 3 groups' interests are conflicting each other. But no one is wrong here. Everyone wants an end to satisfy their particular interest. There is nothing wrong in that. In life itself, as far as we people are concerned sometimes we might have totally opposite interests, opinion, attitude from other people.....inspite of which neither are they wrong, nor us. Its just a matter of perception and POVs. Even in this thread itself, there are 3 groups - those who are supporting MR, those who are against his decision, and those who are neutral Embarrassed. But dont you think in our own ways we all are right, and we are respecting each other's POV even though its different from ours Embarrassed? So same is in this case. Even though MR, PH and we audiences have totally different interests (like 3 poles of a triangle), still if we take each of these poles and analyse from each of their POVs, we will realise that everyone has their own reasons which are not totally right or wrong. But its human tendency that in most cases we only tend to see our POV and our pain/disappointment, and think anyone who thinks/does differently is wrong Ouch.

MB what ur saying is not wrong, Career oriented ppl will find his decision fine and will be able to justify him in some way or the other ..but my point is why there is any need for us to defend him when we are actually not aware of the True facts either ?  Why this topic is brought up when things are still under wrapped ?  Thats exactly my question - why are we blasting MR even before the actual truth is out? My opening of this topic was in reaction to lot of negative vibes against MR - just wanted to show people the other side of the coin, and that MR is not much at fault for taking such an important decision of his life. If there are ppl who can find his decision fine then tere are those as well who just cannot find it wrong as well .. there is nothing wrong in that either.... You are right, and you definitely are entitled to your opinion which should be respected. As I mentioned earlier, nobody is right or wrong here, its just a matter of perception. So yah he cannot be blamed for giving up the show for his dreams ( we dont even know that was the reason, he might have nothing under his kitty at the moment)  but i am talking abt credibility here .. and the responsibilities towards ur Job being an Artist... ..hmmmm May be i was expecting too much from ... i would have been fine if the show had lost its creative touch or there was nothing left in the character... unfortunately that is not the case..  anyways .. Its his decision and he has moved on .. good for him .. we will too but viewers like me wont be able to reconnect themselves to television shows anymore.. and it will be good for us Smile

Cant agree with that , Bollywood is far more ruthless then television industry .. there luck, Name, right decision,  and back is needed'whereas on television Many PH and roles will be offered to him .. so its not that after LTL he will become jobless .. he would have still worked towards his bollywood dream even then ..  his Decision would still be right if he waited for  4-5 months more and remained in the show..After LS also he sat at home for 1 and half years before LTL happened, but no luck. So what if this time around he got too good an offer to refuse? What if maybe he got an offer which he was waiting for the last 4-5 years? Should he allow these 4-5 months in LTL to let go off such an amazing opportunity? Great offers dont come everyday, and if the offer was really good, do you think the offerer would actually wait for MR for another 4-5 months? They would rather replace him with someone else and the loss would only be MR's Ouch.

I stand by my views btw .. no compromises with a kind of job like this Smile EVery job has its own criteria s ..in that sense, Why an army officer is has no right to say a "no" ?? Oh please dont compare entertainment industry to defense LOL. Army is a totally different issue, there it is the question of people's lives which is the most important issue compared to anything else in this world. But this is just a TV seriel yaar LOL, something we all watch for entertainment/timepass Smile. As far as our lives' priorities are concerned, entertainment or LTL/MR is only a favorite passtime for us. He is not even affecting our daily life priorities - he is just used by us for entertainment in our free time after we are done with the rest of our priorities in life (studies, work, family, friends, etc). Would you sacrifice even one of these for MR or LTL? No. If we have an exam, would we quit studies and watch LTL, or would we postpone LTL till the end of exam? If a maha episode of LTL is going to be aired and we have some other important committment - like an important meeting at office, a family function, etc., will we leave these and wait at home for LTL to be aired? No right. So if MR is just a free time option for us, why are we expecting him to sacrifice his main priority in life for us? If we are calling him selfish for leaving the show, aren't we also behaving selfishly by expecting him to give up on his dream so that we can continue seeing him? If he gives up some big opportunity today for us, and later once he is done with LTL if he doesnt get any, what will he do?

Like MB had lot of fans when he was on TV, today he is neither there on TV nor bollywood - what are we fans doing for him? Just because he generated so many fans during his stint at TV, today are we able to do anything for him or for his talent? NO. This is life. Everyone has to think about themselves first, as if they wont, no one will. The same fans who were with you when you were successful will not even remember you once you are away from their sight for long time - out of sight, out of mind! 


But at the end of the day, like you even I want MR to stay on in LTL for everyone's sake, but if it is really not possible for him to wait for another 4-5 months, then maybe letting him go and wishing him all the best for his future and career is the only option left for me Ouch, because we all love him too much to see anything wrong happening to him.....am sure those who are angry with him now also loves him a lot but are just disappointed with him temporarily, but at the back of your minds I know you also wish the best for him Embarrassed.
So I just hope that something happens that all of us are equally satisfied - MR, PH & Audience Smile. Lets all direct our positive energies towards this thought and am sure all of us will be happy in the end Wink.



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Posted: 06 January 2011 at 3:24am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Dancingdoll

MB, Very well said....You have echoed my POV....I too am disturbed about the turn of events and worried about the fate of the masterpieces such as LTL and Dutta but I wouldnt blame Mishal for his decision....
 
1. We do not know the other side of the story and probably we will never have the luxury of knowing it...Moreover, I hate to make someone the victim of viewer's ignorance...Its easy to pinpoint mistakes by assuming things...
 
2. There is no harm in being career oriented. We have always known that he eventually dreams of being in Bollywood and it takes time to establish your foothold in BW itself...The earlier the start the better...And this indutry is so unstable, you cannot afford to loose the first best opportunity u get from a reputed film house...Completely from MR's POV, If he lets go of an opportunity from a topnotch movie maker while LTL is still on, there is absolutely no guarantee that he would get this opportunity again. Thats the competitive world they live in...Tu nahi toh aur sahi...Loads of TV Stars have been unsuccessful in BW and end up dng mediocre movie and reach nowhere...In such scenarios, from a personal stand, it would not be advisable to let an opportunity go...
 
3. We really dnt know what conspired between PH, Channel and him...I agree that end of the day, the politics between the trio will impact the show, but we cannot just blame Mishal alone
 
4. He has given a 2 months notice. Its not that he is walking out on PH next day or ina week's time. In our line of work, although the norm is 1.5 months - 2 months,no one really stays for this long...Thats reality...The competition is everywhere and to survive, you have to be on your feet always, ready to move in seconds...

I understand that fans take you on a pedestal but eventually an actor is alone when he has to make choices of his career...A fan would only be a keen observer or critique of his work, but can a viewer get him back a lost opportunity? An opportunity gone is gone....

If MR does not have anything in his kitty right now and he is quitting because his annual contract ends by Jan end or Feb and he defn doesnt wanna take a risk by signing an additional annual contract that can bind him at the exact moment when he might need to quit for BW, then I feel PH shld work with him and try creating a flexible contract that can give PH and him time to do justice to the show and give a logical end....If the work atmosphere has become too bitter then again, they can work it out....but if he has something planned and is time bound post feb, then I can just wish him good luck and hope tht his talent only gives us more masterpieces that we can cherish!!!




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Posted: 06 January 2011 at 3:32am | IP Logged
Originally posted by kshreya2002

Ok...finally my take....I have been an observer of Indian Television and Bollywood...based on what I have seen I think MR has taken the best decision at the right time. He is around 30...he cannot wait much longer to give Bollywood a serious shot as looks are important. Since he doesnt have filmi connections we know of he needs to devote lots to time and energy to pursue his options. Given the success rate of people aspiring to get into Bollywood his chances are low. BUT its not impossible. Other examples of TV actors trying to make it into Bollywood didnt have either the looks or talent or both. Bollywood is like a closed family...people stay within the confines of the family. To break into it one has to extra-ordinary in some way...and Mishal's extra ordinary quality is his talent.
TV career-wise MR is at a high now. LTL at best can go on well for another 6 months to a year. After that what happens to the actors? They need to look out for work again. Very rarely leads are repeated esp if the lead has been popular and has a strong image. But by the time a show ends the show would have lost its charm and the leads their popularity. Another option for MR is to do reality shows...but the only people who benefit out of them are Bollywood stars. So even from that POV MR needs to have the Bollywood tag. MR would have never been our Dutta if his first Bolly plans had been successful. But now the economy is looking up and he better try his best now. Also TV industry is ruthless...leads can be replaced any moment...the channel has all the power...the TV actors dont have much say are more or less slaves to whims and fancies of channel execs who are mostly kids straight out of college. Its really TRPs that rule roost...nothing more...nothing less. Also from a actors POV he has given enough notice. I am sure he has remained within the confines of his contract. Thats from Mishal's point of view.
But what about LTL? Right now MR is the life of the show. Most prolly if he leaves the show it die a premature death. Other shows have gone on without their leads successfully. But those days are gone now. And LTL has a wafer thin story line anyways and primarily rests on Tasha story. All the cast and crew associated with the show will prolly blame him for loss of livelihood. But then life goes on.
What about viewers...unfortunately the TV industry we see today is the handiwork of viewers. These viewers have failed numerous attempts to give them sensible shows and have chosen to back ridiculous shows for years. Maybe we in the forum are not one of them but thats what the majority want. If you chose mediocrity you will get it. We were lucky that a actor of MR's caliber was a part of LTL. As a viewer of LTL its a loss for me...I would rather the show conclude happily and logically with MR's exit but the show is doing too well for that to happen. Most likely the show and its characters will be butchered and I cannot see that happenning. So yes like many others here for me too no Mishal=No LTL. But then by hoping MR give everything to Dutta till the end are we not being selfish? Its our entertainment but his career and dreams.

What I ideally want: Mishal should be convinced to give LTL few more months of his time till the show reaches a saturation point...he can meanwhile keeping looking at Bollywood projects too. For that maybe he can negotiate with the PH and channel that he be let off once he gets the right opty and also get time off to pursue Bollywood. This will be the ideal win-win situation for everyone-MR, channel, PH and viewers.

Request to forum members: Like Aparna I agree that collective bad vibes has its negative effect. Lets not send bad vibes to Mishal atleast for the sake of all the work he has done in the past year. I know we are all angry and upset. But lets not forget we dont know the whole truth and we he doesnt deserve our badduas based on hearsay. Lets instead send good vibes to Mishal and LTL so that both he and the show continue to do well...together and individually. Lets hope he takes into accounts the wishes of his fans who have supported him through the negative news that was coming from the sets and makes sensible decisions career-wise. It will be sad to see a talent like his go wasted.



Totally agree with you Shreya, very well written Clap! I have mentioned about the angle of his lack of filmy connections in one of my previous posts yesterday.....for normal people like him who is not a star son or who doesnt have proper connections in Bollywood, this is the only medium through which he can try to reach Bollywood, which I think is a right step.

Ya lets please positively charge all our thoughts so that eventually only good things happen to all of us  - MR, PH and we Audience Smile. Someone like MR and his talent should not be wasted bcos of bad luck or 'badhuaa' as he is one person who really deserves to be there more than anyone else!

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Posted: 06 January 2011 at 3:34am | IP Logged
Originally posted by skavitha08

@Ksh: thank you so much you are the star i was struggling to write a post wherein i could say it all considering everyone's POV and opinions and that too without uttering anything that may hurt but din find any way to do so 
but said it all buddy.....

agree with each and every point of urs though m sad but i would be really happy for MR if he pulls off this opportunity to work for him and he should never regret the fact of leaving such a gr8 show may god bless him so that one day he feels that the decision he took though hurting many but was proved for his dreams and i loved the part where u said its entertainment for us and career n dreams for him...so true u r......m sad for my LTL my TaSha but i want to be really happy for MR when he becomes an even bigger star and makes it to the top in bollywood....

we are all affected by dutta aren't we ? coz we who supported him when all those article was talking ill of him ....we rubbished it like we know MR very well and all of sudden everyone is mad at him....so duttaish.....lol

i want to be nakku my love won't change for him no matter what he does....i love nakku's character sometimes she is too good to be true but i still like that...Oh my LTL

still for me LTL rocks and TaSha will always rock....may god (and for that matter viewers) bless the show to continue being on top.....

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Hey thanks Kavita Embarrassed......I really appreciate your active participation in this thread and your positivity....and also your support and efforts to show the good side of MR Smile......

And I totally agree with you that we all are behaving very Duttaish LOL......MR has done so many good things but the moment we heard this news yesterday, all hell broke lose and we are exactly doing the same thing Dutta did to Nakku after FR - forgetting what all she did for him in the past Cry....

But like Dutta, I think most people here are basically upset/hurt/disappointed with him due to which they are reacting this way. I think eventually when this thing sinks in all of us, we will be back to loving MR like before, am confident Embarrassed.....arre we all love him soo much yaar, so how can we REMAIN angry with him for long Wink.....am sure its just a matter of few days, eventually we all will be back Embarrassed!





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Posted: 06 January 2011 at 3:47am | IP Logged
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Ok.. back now as still can't let go.. as ksh said, last night the thought that crossed my mind was exactly the same as yours.. ki MR tumne hum sab ki neend haram karke khud chaian ki neend so rahe hoge na! but I regretted it as soon as the thought came to my mind.

 

As a viewer for the past year he has enthralled us with his magnificent performance of Dutta. I don't think I can write anymore than what all of us have put down in this forum regarding that. We all agree of that. But now that he has chosen to leave, I know all of us are upset. Some extremely sad, some angry, some numb, some shocked, some hating him..and all these emotions stem from the single fact that he has always been loved tremendously by every single one of us on the forum. It is due to our extreme love for him that we are seeing all these reactions. People react differently as not one person is like the other. Even the ones hating his decision are not cursing him or wanting him to not do well, I can vouch on that. I don't think I am wrong in saying that there is not one person on this forum who does not want to see Mishal successful. He has been a part of our lives and it would be a huge boost for us to see him achieve every possible success in life as he is 'our' Mishal, right?! Mishal has always given us plenty to cheer about in the last year and he does not need any negativity at this point in his career from us of all people.

 

Now coming to a slightly sensitive topic of why some of us are/were angry at him for leaving. Initially I was shocked, then felt really hurt and cheated. But then I sat back and started analysing and realised I am making decisions and forming opinions without knowing all the facts. No one is guilty until proven and we feel this guy is already guilty when at this point in time I have no reason to hold him guilty. I do not know any of the things that have been going on behind the scenes. I do not know if MR had agreed in June that he will quit in Dec and then agreed a further 2 months. I do not know whether he was unhappy with the story line. I do not know whether he has anything in hand. I do not know whether he was promised anything by channel/PH and that did not materialise. I don't have access to any info on why MR chose to quit. So, unless someone from the PH and MR himself clarify why he is leaving, I am going to give the guy a break. I cannot pass a verdict on him when I don't have anything from his side in his defence. So until then, I shall wait. I am sure he will soon clarify his stand.. until then, let's just sit back and sit a deep breath. That is the least we can do for the guy who gave us Dutta bhao, isn't it?

 

I am in no way trying to say that him leaving the show is good or correct, but do not want to blame him until I know for sure why he is leaving and whether the concerned parties were given enough notice etc. But whatever be the outcome of that, there is no denying that he is a fab actor whoc will make a mark for himself and I would like to wish him loads of luck and happiness for his future. he needs all our well wishes in such a crucial point in his career and we know you will make us all proud...

Ultimately, I would like for him to extend his leaving by maybe a couple of months or so and the cv's can work out a way to bring a proper and deserving closure to tasha and LTL as that is the least we can hope for 

I have no intention to hurt anyone with my comments, so pls do not take it in the wrong way.



Amazing post prettywoman Clap! I especially loved your @ blue points Embarrassed.


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very well said Aparna u said it all it is no so much that we don't want him to grow.
i personal would love 2 c him achieve his goels & b successful in whatever he does, i would love to c him on the big screen he is by far the best actor & v.proffessional towards his work so he deserves to get a break but, saying that i would terribley miss him as dutta & i would not c ltl w/out him that will b the end 4 me.
so 4 his proffession & 4 us the least he should do is give a proper ending to ltl instead of hanging that is all!
from my side eventhough it hurts to c him go & would do e/thing we can to make him stay coz i would love 4 him to stay but , i would also say all the best to him & tank u 4 coming into our life God bless him!Smile 

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Posted: 06 January 2011 at 6:00am | IP Logged
Ok........Like many said here I was so disturbed yest I couldn't sleep well.....Only MR/Dutta's pics were flashing in my mind....I in fact started to think if all those tantrums...rumours about MR could have been true But I was not ready to accept it He just doesn't seem a guy who would do all that....

I didn't know that his role was till JuneShockedThen was it a Cameo.....and was retained only for the growing popularity.........If this is really true and he has agreed to be on-board till the end of Feb then it's good ......

But if the problem is regarding the stagnation/butchering of his role Then I would wish that all these matters are resolved by talks Since this is what happened in Uttaran with Tina who had submitted her resignation letter many times but all were solved by talks...... 

I wish MR all success in all his future endeavors But I would also hope that he agrees to continue for another 3-4 months so that it can be ended well......He could as well be searching for the right offers during this period.....


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