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Posted: 05 January 2011 at 9:54pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Pari76

Originally posted by nanditasingh


Does Maan Really Have A Choice?

Maan has been asked to make a heart wrenching choice as we see..
'Save the mother or the child'
 
The doctor informed Maan of Geet's criticial condition letting know that if Geet's intensely bad condition deteriorates any further, he'll have to choose whether to save the mother or the child.
Geet or her baby is the question & Maan has no answer to it as in both cases he loses his Geet .... no way losing her baby she can live as before...

As this question needs to be answered if need arises ... i seek an answer too from the creatives.

'can a 4-5 month old foetus survive without its mother?'

Yes, the possiblity does exist for a 4 to five month old baby to survive, the baby is place into an incubator.  This is a proven fact and NOT AN OPINION.  A lot of premies have been placed in incubators and survived.  The obivious here is to make the situation dramatic as possible to keep the viewers hooked.

i don't agree with you Pari here ...i know your source as you told at ym...but still i would say when i make a post & you can check i have few only to my name..i hold responsibility to what i write & sure i wont act on whim or write of things i hold no real knowledge of.....

I've added the medical chart here...check any book or net site if it contradicts ....
A foetus that is less than 25 week old CANNOT SURVIVE WITHOUT ITS MOTHER(Caps put for purpose)

I added this post only after re-checking net facts with ladies who have recently have had their baby....

So i guess i disagree with you


If i go by what i read & found i have to answer is

NO
 
I beg the differ, as I used to work in a hospital and have witness this first hand and this is why I say the possibility exist.

and i too hold some knowledge of this fact as i've seen my sister - in - law loose her baby in the 5th month of her pregnancy & i know the development of the foetus...so yet again i contradict with your view


Geet's 4th month of pregnancy equals to roughly 13th weeks .....read along

a> 13th Week of Pregnancy  - Baby's crown to rump length is around 7-9 cm. Your baby weighs about 35 grams. Your baby's intestines which were forming outside your baby's body have now moved into the abdomen. Your baby tooth sockets are forming now. You won't see her teeth until later but they are all there underneath her gums. Your baby's hair follicles are also forming now.

b> 14th Week of Pregnancy - The ears are shifting from the neck to the sides of the head, and the neck is getting longer and chin more prominent. Facial features and unique fingerprints are all there. Your baby is beginning to respond to outside stimuli.

c> 15th Week of Pregnancy - Its body is covered by an ultrafine hair, called lanugo, which is usually shed by birth. Eyebrows and hair on the top of the head are beginning to grow

d> 16th Week of Pregnancy - The circulatory system completely develops, nervous system functioning and heart beats can be heard.

e> 17th Week of Pregnancy - The lungs are beginning to exhale amniotic fluid, and the circulatory and urinary systems are working. Hair on head, eyebrows and eyelashes is filling in.


All in all the fact is even with the most sophisticated of equipment. the rate of survival of a 24 week old foetus without its mother is only 50% and the prime most important reason to it is the baby's lungs have not yet developed nor are the internal organs.


If the above holds true to a 24 week old foetus then how can Geet's baby that is hardly 13 weeks old survive without its mother?
 
Though the possibility exist, it isn't always easy depending on the condition of the baby.

It does not exist if the baby's internal organs have not developed & that happens only after 25 weeks


(thank you Pooja for helping me put this post & helping with the medical facts)


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Posted: 05 January 2011 at 9:57pm | IP Logged
@R  - Oh! no no dear please continue & me to joining you in....

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Posted: 05 January 2011 at 10:02pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by dolphinUSA

Nandu bandu Hug
Awesome post.....don't have much to say about the silly decision making track...but here's my thoughts on the rest....do read.


Since I heard the forum is filled with mockery or negativity, I'll give in some food for thought.
- Maan said steam khula reh gaya hoga. So it indeed is a spa room too.
- Brij set the temperature to 75 degrees C but I doubt it reached the limit in such a short time. Even before it could reach the limit, Geet fainted because of the steam, Maan came and brought her out of the room. So I don't see any reason for burns.
- I really liked the music when Maan walks away after tying the taveez. It's the same one when Maan walks away from Geet to go to dargah in the outhouse.
- Annie's accusations to Arjun will probably make him wonder what his sister has done. He has clearly fallen for Annie and I don't think he will let her walk away just like that. That's why he decided to go after her...even after she spoke ill about his sister. Why would he do that if he didn't get her the benefit of doubt?
- OK I REALLY like A and A's music. It is hot!
- Arjun's car being broke can be a cause of the stone, and can be not. It could be similar to how Maan's car broke in HP 2 track after they just became friends.
- Even with the whole decision making being an illogical thing, Maan's pain in the precap shot right through my heart. GC is bloody brilliant.

On the lighter side:
- When Brij was self talking after Maan took Geet to the doctor, I was wondering what if Nakul overhears him. Nakul could be a star for parda fashing Brij. Star
- In less than a month's time, these A and A are talking about being in each others lives. It's a wonder. I wish Maan ne Annie ka jootha khaya hota toh Maan-Geet ko ek hone mein itne mahine nahi lagte..ROFL
- It's not a wonder that Arjun can push the car, I wonder how can he push it from the side. Don't people usually push from behind? Confused

OK I see Poo glaring at me for writing such a take after spending the whole day making fun, so I'm running away.




thank you Dol for the answers.....& i agree with R ...you left the odd one out the one & only which i was unfortunate enough to pick up...but yes ..coz of that blunder i sure did fail to give words of appreciation for Gurmeet who was as always fantastic


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Posted: 05 January 2011 at 10:07pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by drdee142

Originally posted by nanditasingh


Does Maan Really Have A Choice?

Maan has been asked to make a heart wrenching choice as we see..
'Save the mother or the child'
Geet or her baby is the question & Maan has no answer to it as in both cases he loses his Geet .... no way losing her baby she can live as before...

As this question needs to be answered if need arises ... i seek an answer too from the creatives.

'can a 4-5 month old foetus survive without its mother?'



If i go by what i read & found i have to answer is

NO

Geet's 4th month of pregnancy equals to roughly 13th weeks .....read along

a> 13th Week of Pregnancy  - Baby's crown to rump length is around 7-9 cm. Your baby weighs about 35 grams. Your baby's intestines which were forming outside your baby's body have now moved into the abdomen. Your baby tooth sockets are forming now. You won't see her teeth until later but they are all there underneath her gums. Your baby's hair follicles are also forming now.

b> 14th Week of Pregnancy - The ears are shifting from the neck to the sides of the head, and the neck is getting longer and chin more prominent. Facial features and unique fingerprints are all there. Your baby is beginning to respond to outside stimuli.

c> 15th Week of Pregnancy - Its body is covered by an ultrafine hair, called lanugo, which is usually shed by birth. Eyebrows and hair on the top of the head are beginning to grow

d> 16th Week of Pregnancy - The circulatory system completely develops, nervous system functioning and heart beats can be heard.

e> 17th Week of Pregnancy - The lungs are beginning to exhale amniotic fluid, and the circulatory and urinary systems are working. Hair on head, eyebrows and eyelashes is filling in.


All in all the fact is even with the most sophisticated of equipment. the rate of survival of a 24 week old foetus without its mother is only 50% and the prime most important reason to it is the baby's lungs have not yet developed nor are the internal organs.


If the above holds true to a 24 week old foetus then how can Geet's baby that is hardly 13 weeks old survive without its mother?



(thank you Pooja for helping me put this post & helping with the medical facts)


Nandita
 
Thanks Nandita for this post and for putting through such a clear & scientificly correct picture.
 
This is exactly what we were talking about in our thread after yesterday's episode. The question is that only one can be saved either mother or child doesn't arise till the later months of pregnancy and Geet's foetus is not yet developed so how can the baby survive.
 
We've tried an overlooked several illogical and pardon me for saying so but stupid mistakes and tracks (Annie, Arjun and also Brij's miraculous return where he suddenly is a trained expert chef, electrician and I don't know what else)
 
We love GHSP & Maaneet and we also appreciate the good things that the CV's have done with this serial in the past but why do they insist on adding these unnecessary & illogical tracks and insult the audience's intelligence is beyond my comprehension.
 
They need to pull up their socks and get more real if they don't want to lose their credibility.


Daisy
I know dear the forum & we all max of times though tend to crib but we do overlook lack of logic & blunders...but somethings, issues & moments as delicate and solid as this needs facts to be learnt then approached...me a school girl could see into the fact then sure professionals & responsible people involved in there how could they overlook this .....

Its so sad owing to that one statement the whole moment that could have us dropping tears over the heart warming emotions playing on Gurmeet's face ...have let the appreciation of him take back seat & question the creatives on logic

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Posted: 05 January 2011 at 10:15pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by LOVE_DMG

cvs thinks we are stupid, but suprise to them we are not.Stern Smile


we actually do watch closely think & feel & so respond to it & only coz we have things to say we hang around the forums , site or blog ...& they themselves say they count our opinion so sure they cannot think we are that dumb rite...i really hope in such sensitive matter they do their homework first

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Posted: 05 January 2011 at 10:20pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Mg777

Hey ..
I think this answers our questions.......

The final answer is the dialogue was not nicely written......
I mean the CVs couldn't show what they really wanted to.....
This post tells everything.......actually explains everytyhing..
PLEASE READ IT...



YES!
and thanks for sharing the link

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Posted: 05 January 2011 at 10:27pm | IP Logged
Thanks Nadita for taking so much effort to make thigs clear....Hope Cvs should read this post. It is difficult to digest such immature reason to make such an statement by a doctor. I hope Cvs would correct themselves today...waise I have though of an excuse for them which I replied to Ritui also ...I may be wrong but allow me to copy that reply to U also....

Hi Ritu, Dee, Shanti Az, Nandita and all others...R we supposed to digest this absurdity of the whole preg issue thrown at us. It seems CVs does not have a slightest idea that this forums also have doctors and medical professionals as members. How can they show such a blunder?...well neither I am a Dr. nor a medical professional but I am a mother of two and know that preg bump does not show before 4 months that means Geet is b/w 3 to 4 months because she is still so slim. Even if there is some critical issue that Dr. has to choose between mother and the child for some reason...usually they never ask husband or the family members to make the choice....Sorry if I hurt your feelings but usually in such cases child is aborted because...1 - no doc can take the guarantee that the baby as younf as 3 months would survive in incubator...the baby is still under develop. Even if the baby survives he will face a lot of medical and heath problems later on. In such case doc only advice that the abortion is necessary to save life of one adult. A life that is already living....rather than a life that has not yet started living. I know it is an emotional and no matter how cold I may sound but this is a practical fact of medical life. 

Now if I would like to give some excuse to CVs.....that would be ony this that the doc says that if Geet's condition deteriorates further then they have to choose b/w mother and the child....May be she meant that Geet will survive only to complete her term and deliver the baby if they chose top save the child otherwise the baby has to be aborted so that she can have a long life...may be they say that to carry on with the pregnancy would put Geet's life in danger at the time of delivery and that choice they have to make now.....if this is the case then CVs can still save their faces otherwise.....




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Posted: 05 January 2011 at 10:40pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by nanditasingh

Originally posted by drdee142

Originally posted by nanditasingh


Does Maan Really Have A Choice?

Maan has been asked to make a heart wrenching choice as we see..
'Save the mother or the child'
Geet or her baby is the question & Maan has no answer to it as in both cases he loses his Geet .... no way losing her baby she can live as before...

As this question needs to be answered if need arises ... i seek an answer too from the creatives.

'can a 4-5 month old foetus survive without its mother?'



If i go by what i read & found i have to answer is

NO

Geet's 4th month of pregnancy equals to roughly 13th weeks .....read along

a> 13th Week of Pregnancy  - Baby's crown to rump length is around 7-9 cm. Your baby weighs about 35 grams. Your baby's intestines which were forming outside your baby's body have now moved into the abdomen. Your baby tooth sockets are forming now. You won't see her teeth until later but they are all there underneath her gums. Your baby's hair follicles are also forming now.

b> 14th Week of Pregnancy - The ears are shifting from the neck to the sides of the head, and the neck is getting longer and chin more prominent. Facial features and unique fingerprints are all there. Your baby is beginning to respond to outside stimuli.

c> 15th Week of Pregnancy - Its body is covered by an ultrafine hair, called lanugo, which is usually shed by birth. Eyebrows and hair on the top of the head are beginning to grow

d> 16th Week of Pregnancy - The circulatory system completely develops, nervous system functioning and heart beats can be heard.

e> 17th Week of Pregnancy - The lungs are beginning to exhale amniotic fluid, and the circulatory and urinary systems are working. Hair on head, eyebrows and eyelashes is filling in.


All in all the fact is even with the most sophisticated of equipment. the rate of survival of a 24 week old foetus without its mother is only 50% and the prime most important reason to it is the baby's lungs have not yet developed nor are the internal organs.


If the above holds true to a 24 week old foetus then how can Geet's baby that is hardly 13 weeks old survive without its mother?



(thank you Pooja for helping me put this post & helping with the medical facts)


Nandita
 
Thanks Nandita for this post and for putting through such a clear & scientificly correct picture.
 
This is exactly what we were talking about in our thread after yesterday's episode. The question is that only one can be saved either mother or child doesn't arise till the later months of pregnancy and Geet's foetus is not yet developed so how can the baby survive.
 
We've tried an overlooked several illogical and pardon me for saying so but stupid mistakes and tracks (Annie, Arjun and also Brij's miraculous return where he suddenly is a trained expert chef, electrician and I don't know what else)
 
We love GHSP & Maaneet and we also appreciate the good things that the CV's have done with this serial in the past but why do they insist on adding these unnecessary & illogical tracks and insult the audience's intelligence is beyond my comprehension.
 
They need to pull up their socks and get more real if they don't want to lose their credibility.


Daisy
I know dear the forum & we all max of times though tend to crib but we do overlook lack of logic & blunders...but somethings, issues & moments as delicate and solid as this needs facts to be learnt then approached...me a school girl could see into the fact then sure professionals & responsible people involved in there how could they overlook this .....

Its so sad owing to that one statement the whole moment that could have us dropping tears over the heart warming emotions playing on Gurmeet's face ...have let the appreciation of him take back seat & question the creatives on logic

 
Yeah that was the worst thing, GC gave such a heart wrenching performance and his acting made the scene so much more intense and it was all lost because of the illogicality of the situation, but definitely kudos to GC, what range of emotions passed through Maan's face in yesterday's episode, it was so heart breaking to watch him.
 
I've fallen more in love with Maan after seeing him yesterday but that's what he does makes us fall more & more in love with him and ofcourse so does our dear GeetSmile

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