Posted: 05 January 2011 at 4:23pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by SaffyFlower
Originally posted by nikitagmc
@Saffy:::: It may have been a joke Saffy, but if its a joke between you and Jaanu, then Jaanu should be more clear na about how she says it... and this I'm saying with due respect to Janu, cos she's elder to me.... it did not sound like a joke to me at all... I was actually horrified cos nobody ever said anything like that ever before in this whole forum. Why not say in simple words that leave all this, come and have fun??? Would we have disagreed?
Niki,KoolDi and any others - she and many others have posted bfor also that - it is their world view that they see no fun in arguing about a show when one can make funny comments.So when they see arguments,they try to get us to let go of it ,that is all.
Pls understand that their intention is not trash anybody's rights to debate.
Niki it was a serious comment from her asking us to joke instead of debate,if you did not understand my post.
Fifi has asked me to stop arguing too bfor.Hope has done it in the COmmentary when we had an absolutely normal heated debate.If ppl like Fifi and Jaanu are asking us to go light on a debate sometimes,I see something positive and constructive in their outlook.Whether they address me or you or anybody else.Why take it as negative criticism?
And as each one of us have a different philosophy of life,each one of us definitely have a bias.Why take it as a negative criticism?
I see much ado about nothing Niki.
I did not want to step into this very interesting dialogue but considering my name was taken as indicated in bold above I thought it was necessary to say something to the above.
to begin with let me do mind googling's job.
this is what I really said.Kools, your thread and this forum seems to have become very heated and divided over Archu and Dharmesh.
I saw your point of view and the opposing and I wanted to drop my two cents in but I seriously am hesitant.
atmosphere in the entire forum seems to be toxic. I have heard more
subjective arguments than objective ones and i am afraid my POV will
not help. So I will refrain. I know it appears cowardly but today for
the first time I felt the light heartedness surrounding our debates is
vanishing and we are taking Archu's defence and Dharmesh's prosecution
at a very personal level.
we are all friends here, in my opinion. some steadfast and some casual.
yet today I saw a tone in many posts that was tactfully put "unfriendly"
If this is what a show can do to friends then who needs the show or the debate?
And to make sure that my comments and intent above are not being interpreted or misinterpreted - my post did not ask people NOT to debate and rather make funny comments (I offered no instructions just posted a rhetorical question - I am nobody to ask any forum member to debate or not debate etc. - it is an open and public venue). My point was when debating
we should not use hidden sarcasm or blunt rudeness to make a point. I have even seen character
attacks on other forum members done in a very subtle manner (with laughing faces and a lot of smiley faces) while debating. I like debating - why would I
tell people to stop debating?
Just so that I am not misused as a precedent for a post such as the one that has caused such a furor here.
I stand by what I wrote then - our comments should be objective and the tone of our posts friendly otherwise the fun of watching the show and then debating is lost.
Oh and by the way, the debate you mentioned was not normal - there was a lot of hidden sarcasm and barbs that was apparent to someone not participating in that particular debate itself. If it was a normal heated debate I would have jumped right in.