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Posted: 04 January 2011 at 8:17am | IP Logged

Unfortunately, I'm not very aware of Australian climate and the history of weather, flooding and natural disaster in that region.

 

The crisis reminds me of the Great Midwest Floods of 1993 when the Mississippi swelled. The Mississippi valley has not been the same ever since. We got a miniature redux few years ago. Its crazy, there are highways here that were submerged in a few inches of water – some closed. Now when you drive on it you wonder holy, how did the river down there ever climb all the way up.

 

However, it is not just the Australian floods. The global climate is in a massive transition negatively impacting life around the world. California also had bizarre heavy rains and floods. For two years straight the North East states have been pounded by insane amounts of snow. Even Europe has been dumped on, putting transport across the continent at a standstill. At the same time Moscow, Midwest and Mid Canada had unusually warm Decembers this year. The Gulf Coast and Mexico have experienced more hurricanes than ever.

 

Sea levels are definitely rising. Ice caps are melting and precipitation during monsoon and winters has increased alarmingly. Maldives is threatened, but I think several cities/countries like Netherlands, Bangladesh, New York, New Bombay are also threatened due to large mass of land below sea level. I remember once seeing an illustration of NY landmarks submerged under water and there was a scale estimating which year the water will hit various levels. Although I think the New York submergence was well beyond 2030….definitely not in my life time.

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Posted: 04 January 2011 at 10:27am | IP Logged
Interesting indeed. Yes it us a world wide occurrence of flooding and heavy rains did cause floodings even in some parts if Singapore, never seen for a several years in city areas. Govt had taken steps to further improve drainage too. Rainfalls has increased considerably n we saw some flash floods that lasted a couple of days.
Last major flood in this region of Australia was in 1991 also due to a typhoon then. There was more rains then ever before. River waters have turned the highways into lakes. Many have list everything.
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Jan 11, 2011

Police urge flood evacuations in Brisbane

 

People are seen on the rooftop of a house in Grantham, a township between Toowomba and Brisbane, in this still image taken from video on Jan 10, 2011. -- PHOTO: REUTERS

IPSWICH (Australia) - AUSTRALIAN police urged residents of an inner-city Brisbane suburb to evacuate on Tuesday as floods raced towards the Queensland capital after deluging much of the state.

'All members of the community who live or are currently near the Brisbane River at West End are advised to move to higher ground,' Queensland police said in a statement.

'We are just trying to advise as many people as we can,' a police spokesman told AFP.

West End is an inner-city suburb south of the central business district, and stretches for some kilometres along the river. Rising floodwaters also prompted evacuations in outer Brisbane suburbs, and reports said that cars were streaming out of the city.

Police said the air evacuation of 300 people in the outlying town of Forest Hill was under way, while all residents in low-lying areas of Strathpine and Caboolture were also urged to leave their homes immediately.

'Do not stay in your homes, please leave immediately,' police said. Nineteen people have died in the floods including eight swept to their deaths by flash floods on Monday. --

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Posted: 10 January 2011 at 11:16pm | IP Logged
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Australia floods: Parts of Brisbane evacuated by police

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The latest flash floods in Queensland are some of the most violent so far

Police have urged the evacuation of parts of Australia's third largest city - Brisbane - as the biggest floods in years approach the Queensland state capital.

Residents have been encouraged to leave their homes in low-lying areas.

The waters are rising fast and one local official said he saw the river level go up by 1.5m (4ft 10in) in just an hour.

At least nine people have been killed and more than 70 are missing.

"This has been a night of extraordinary events," Queensland State Premier Anna Bligh told a news conference early on Tuesday.

"We've seen acts of extreme bravery and courage from our emergency workers. We know they're out on the front line desperately trying to begin their search and rescue efforts, and we know we have people stranded and people lost," she added.

At least two of the dead were children and Ms Bligh warned that the death toll was likely to rise.

'Darkest hour'

Sandbags have been given out to residents of Brisbane, where the flooding is expected to peak Wednesday.

The city's mayor Campbell Newman warned 6,500 homes, businesses and other properties were likely to be flooded by Thursday.

"Today is very significant, tomorrow is bad, and Thursday is going to be devastating for the residents and businesses affected," he said.

One Brisbane resident told the BBC that supermarkets were already running out of food.

I now live in Indooroopilly, a suburb in Brisbane and unfortunately now it has been listed as high-risk area," said Jiao Yu.

"I went to the supermarket just now and almost all the food has been taken - all people I saw on the streets seemed to be anxious and shops and railways here had begun to stop running."

Torrential rain has already caused flash floods in other parts of Queensland. A massive deluge overwhelmed Toowoomba, a city west of Brisbane, without warning.

Ms Bligh called the flash floods there Queensland's "darkest hour" since the flood crisis began.

"The event that started in Toowoomba can only be described as a complete freak of nature, an extraordinary deluge that almost came out of nowhere," she said .

"What we have here in Queensland tonight is a very grim and desperate situation."

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Helicopters have joined the rescue operation to reach those trapped in cars and on the roofs of buildings.

Toowoomba resident Charlie Green told the BBC he was stranded by the floods.

"It would be ironic if it wasn't so tragic," he said. "Toowoomba sits in the cradle of an extinct volcano about 2,000 feet (610m) above sea level, and we have just endured 10 years of drought, unable even to wash our cars with town water for the last several years.

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PM Julia Gillard warned of more bad news ahead

"We are going to sit tight until we're sure that it's safe to move around. The flooded creeks are within a mile of our house so we can't get anywhere.

"We can't even get down the hill. We'll be stocking up on supplies from local shops."

The tropical storms began in November, triggering the worst flooding in the state in decades. Some 200,000 people have been affected across Queensland.

The flooding has been so widespread that while some communities are still bracing themselves for the worst, in others the clean-up is well under way.

The forecast is for more rain to come, and there are reports of flooding in neighbouring New South Wales.

Prime Minister Julia Gillard has warned that the recovery will take a long time.

'No warning'

Police said a woman and a child died in Toowoomba when their car was washed away, and a man and a boy died after being swept from their house.

Toowoomba's mayor described the scale of the floods as "unbelievable'' and said the city was in shock.

Flash floods flow through a street in Toowoomba on 10 January 2011 Residents said the flash floods had devastated the town

Mayor Peter Taylor said: ''It's a real disaster scene where I'm standing at the moment in Russell Street, Toowoomba. There's furniture and furnishings and it's just blown shops away.

''We have a railway line about 60 or 70 metres suspended in mid-air and two cars that are virtually unrecognisable that have floated and smashed into the rail.''

Queensland Deputy Police Commissioner Ian Stewart said there had been many calls from people needing to be rescued and that emergency crews were struggling to cope.

"We've had multiple calls requesting urgent assistance from people caught in vehicles, caught on the street, caught in flood ways," he said.

"It is an evolving and obviously quite desperate situation for them," he said. "There has been no warning of this event."

This is some of the most violent and frightening flooding that Queensland has yet witnessed, says the BBC's correspondent in Australia, Nick Bryant.

One eyewitness said vehicles were being swept down streets.

"One car we did see come down with its lights on, it ended up crashing into one of the power poles and people were in it for quite a while before they were rescued," Deanna Ward told state broadcaster ABC.

Heavy rain has lashed the region for the last 36 hours, with 16cm (6in) falling in just one hour. Most of the rainwater hit an already saturated catchment.

The enduring floods in Queensland have washed away roads and railways, destroyed crops and brought the coal industry to a near standstill.

The state premier has estimated that the price of rebuilding homes, businesses and infrastructure, coupled with economic losses, could exceed A$5bn (3bn).

Are you in Toowoomba or Brisbane? Have you been affected by the flooding in Queensland? You can send us your stories and experiences using the form below

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Posted: 10 January 2011 at 11:55pm | IP Logged
Wonder what went wrong or why ???
 
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"Toowoomba sits in the cradle of an extinct volcano about 2,000 feet (610m) above sea level, and we have just endured 10 years of drought, unable even to wash our cars with town water for the last several years"
 

"The flooding has been so widespread that while some communities are still bracing themselves for the worst, in others the clean-up is well under way.

The forecast is for more rain to come, and there are reports of flooding in neighbouring New South Wales.

Prime Minister Julia Gillard has warned that the recovery will take a long time.

'No warning'

Police said a woman and a child died in Toowoomba when their car was washed away, and a man and a boy died after being swept from their house.

Toowoomba's mayor described the scale of the floods as "unbelievable'' and said the city was in shock"

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Posted: 10 January 2011 at 11:58pm | IP Logged
 

No chance of flash flood warning in Toowoomba: meteorologist Clem Davis

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The devastating flash flood in Toowoomba. Picture: Facebook Source: The Australia

 
 
THE fatal flooding of Toowoomba could not have been predicted, according to a top meteorologist.

Clem Davis, a 33-year veteran of the Bureau of Meteorology, said the flash flood event that struck the Queensland township was fundamentally different from typical floods due to rising river waters.

"With general flooding the hydrologists can actually calculate the water levels and when the peak of the flood is coming through," the Australian National University visiting fellow said.

"With a severe thunderstorm, it comes down very heavily and therefore you can get a rapid rise in the levels. It is more dangerous to be caught in that because obviously there's not the forewarning and foreknowledge available for these events."

Mr Davis said Queensland went into a very strong La Nina last year which meant a wet summer was expected, but that warnings and evacuations could not be ordered on that basis alone.

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"You're always going to get severe thunderstorms in the wet season anyway, until they actually start to form, you can't actually give a warning for flash flooding," he said.

"And some of these systems you may have as little as half an hour or an hour to pick up the development of these thunderstorms."

Julia Gillard said an SMS warning system, developed after the Black Saturday bushfires, had been used in parts of Queensland during the flood crisis.

She said the extent of warnings and accuracy of Bureau of Meteorology forecasts would be reviewed in the weeks ahead.

But she said there was a limit to the ability of technology to predict disaster events.

"We approach a world with more technology than we've ever had before, with resources available to us that were unimaginable to earlier generations," Ms Gillard said.

"But the power of nature can still be a truly frightening power and we've seen that on display in this country. We've seen it through fire. We're now seeing it through flood."

Professor Neville Nicholls, Australian Research Council Professorial Fellow at Monash University, told The Australian Online the key cause of the floods was the strong La Nina event.

"I don't believe anyone could have reasonably predicted that the rains would have been as heavy or the floods anywhere near as bad," he said.

"The fundamental cause of the floods is the very strong La Nina.

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Originally posted by tulipbaby53

Yes, this is just the beginning. Nature is striking back at us for many years of neglect and abuse. If we do not as a whole learn to love and preserve nature, she will continue taking her course. Ultimately, nature will always remain, and we will all be wiped out. 
What I am afraid is that this could be just the begining.
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