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Angel : lets go baby..

The baby looks up and sees the angel protecting her till yesterday smiling down upon her and holding a hand to her .

The baby shakes her head and clings harder to the cord .

Angel: U cant stay here anymore, god wants you back with himself.

Baby: but mamma wants me too, she loves me.

Angel looked at her with a sad smile.

Angel: I know ur mamma loves u a lot but the outside world doesn't let her be happy and now its her time to be unhappy again. U must leave her and come with me.

Baby: No mamma has no one except me in her life. She will be all alone if I too leave her.

Angel: baby, mamma has papa too now.


Baby: but papa fights with mama

The baby puts on a sad face.

Angel eyes are filled with tears now. She had taken many children
away before but this one, the child for whom this girl had given up everything,
even the angel didn't have the heart to take her. But God had given her clear
orders to bring her back. The child who had been the reason for this girl of 18
to live.


Angel: papa fights with mama coz he loves her.

Baby: But papa forgets about mama when he is angry, he
hurts her too.


Angel had no answer to this. She didn't know what to say.

She usually had answer to all the questions but today she failed. For the first
time the angel had run out of words and explanations to the little one.


Angel: baby come we are getting late. I cant leave u here, mamma will be up any moment

Baby: But mamma will not be able to live without me.

Angel: baby she will learn to and u can come back to her later but not now.

The baby was baffled at this statement. If she could come back later why couldn't she stay now.

 


Baby: have I been a bad girl.

Angel: no baby u have always been good. U have supported ur mamma and given her strength when she was weak u have been a good child to her always.
Baby: then why should I come


Angel: baby ur mamma needs to learn to live with papa too and she thinks only about u all the time not papa.

The baby chuckles at this.

Baby: see my mamma loves me so much.

Angel : I know baby.

Baby: papa, loves me too u know that and he is happy that mamma thinks of me more than him.

Angel: papa loves u and mamma more than u know baby but..

The angel was again lost for words

Baby: I can come back later..

Angel: Yes u can..when mamma and papa call you, you can come back to them and at that time I promise I will let u be with her always.

Baby is confused what to say to this.

But baby ehsaas ( I named her that) does not wanna go with angel. She cant leave mamma all alone and go.Yes papa is there but mamma will be shattered if she goes.  She is thinking of some thing to say so that he can stay back with mamma.

Baby: what will mamma do once she knows I am no more with her.

Angel knows very well that mamma will never be able to get hold of the fact that her baby left her all alone in life. Mamma had fought against the world for the baby and now baby also leaves her. Mamma will take days or even months to accept the truth.

Angel: baby papa will help her to live ahead..i promise u that..papa will be always with her..he will stand with her whenever she needs him..

Baby: papa will be with her, but mamma will not be able to take it in that I left her..i know my mamma I know her.

Angel : Baby mamma will have to live with that..I cant leave u here..not with these people the outside people do not like u and they will harm u .

Baby: I am not afraid till I have my mamma and papa with me. I know they will protect me always.

They hear a voice..its mammas.

" baby I will be ok..dont worry and don't worry u will be ok too..i know I hurt u but papa will take care of us..i know he will.."

That's the last words that mamma spoke before darkness surrounds the baby..

They hear another voice.."angel come back with the baby I cant give u any more time.."

Angel: come baby..we have to go now..

Baby: but..

Angel: u heard him we have to'I am sorry..

The baby is in tears by now..but she knows she has lost the battle..

She says: mamma I will come back, I will back whenever u call me and then I will be with u forever..i am sorry to leave u like this..but I know papa will take care of u..and mamma u love me na so take care of urself for me..i will come back soon..

With this the baby ehsaas hands over herself to the angel and the angel and baby leave..

In the world outside..the doctor says.." sorry Mr.Khurana I couldn't save the child.. but your wife is out of danger now.."







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It is emotions that bind the audience to any story.  Some characters incite hate and others love.  In Geet my favourite character is BABY.  She does not exist as yet, but the baby is the character that has driven the story forward to date. She became Geet's impetus to live, the purpose that forced Geet to leave HP, and got her to build a life for herself in Delhi.  It is evidence of the strength of Maan's love for Geet. 

Geet's story truly started the day she knew she was with child. How?  We saw Geet was dumped by Dev at the airport.  She was not ready to move ahead.  Her only aim was to go back to him and prove to the world that he was innocent.  She wanted him back, but the day she came to know that she was carrying a child her search became more comprehensive and detailed.

She tried to match everything she knew.  It was then that she remembered Dev and his family were living in a Guest house and it was the first time it struck her that she could get their number from the Guest House.  So, she did and called up Canada to tell about the Baby she was carrying though they did not care. 

When her family learnt about it, they wanted her abort the child, but she firmly refused.  It was the first time she truly fought her family. Before when it was just Dev, she had parted with her suhaag ki nishaanis.  But, the baby she could never part with.  When the mid-wife refused to cooperate with their forced abortion attempt and they found no other way her own grandfather and cousin brother decided to kill her.


Maan saved her from Brij and unknowingly became the baby's saviour too.  Together the 2 changed the direction of Geet's life – became her destiny.  They gave her courage to fight for justice against her family and break the norms of society by becoming a single mother. 

It was Baby who gave Geet courage to move into an unknown world, a world very different from the one where she had grown up, a world whose harsh realities and rules she was not aware off, a world where she didn't know whether the people support her or be equally against her. 
Baby – The  Silent Character Who Has Propelled this Story
It is emotions that bind the audience to any story.  Some characters incite hate and others love.  In Geet my favourite character is BABY.  She does not exist as yet, but the baby is the character that has driven the story forward to date. She became Geet's impetus to live, the purpose that forced Geet to leave HP, and got her to build a life for herself in Delhi.  It is evidence of the strength of Maan's love for Geet. 

Geet's story truly started the day she knew she was with child. How?  We saw Geet was dumped by Dev at the airport.  She was not ready to move ahead.  Her only aim was to go back to him and prove to the world that he was innocent.  She wanted him back, but the day she came to know that she was carrying a child her search became more comprehensive and detailed.

She tried to match everything she knew.  It was then that she remembered Dev and his family were living in a Guest house and it was the first time it struck her that she could get their number from the Guest House.  So, she did and called up Canada to tell about the Baby she was carrying though they did not care. 

When her family learnt about it, they wanted her abort the child, but she firmly refused.  It was the first time she truly fought her family. Before when it was just Dev, she had parted with her suhaag ki nishaanis.  But, the baby she could never part with.  When the mid-wife refused to cooperate with their forced abortion attempt and they found no other way her own grandfather and cousin brother decided to kill her.

Maan saved her from Brij and unknowingly became the baby's saviour too.  Together the 2 changed the direction of Geet's life – became her destiny.  They gave her courage to fight for justice against her family and break the norms of society by becoming a single mother. 
 It was Baby who gave Geet courage to move into an unknown world, a world very different from the one where she had grown up, a world whose harsh realities and rules she was not aware off, a world where she didn't know whether the people support her or be equally against her. 

In Delhi, Geet accepted Maan's job not for herself but, for baby.  As the story progressed the baby's gave her courage to stand on her own, to fight the taunts of people like Sasha because she knew someday the world would try to defame her because of the baby.

The baby not only united Maan and Geet, but provided the biggest tests of their relationship to date.  When Maan told her that what mattered most to him was Vishwas and Bharosa, Geet realized that he must know about her baby before there relationship got deeper.  It was the biggest shock and test of Maan's life.  He faltered when she first told him "Mein Pregnant Hu", but did not let her go when he learnt the whole story and when she later explained her fears about her "pavitra" and her "responsibility".  He assured her about her purity and embraced her responsibility.  Made it his own from that day forward.  Took her to the hospital for her first check up. 

Baby gave her courage to fight Sasha, Dev and NT when Maan could not be by her side.  When it was time for her to choose between her baby and immediate justice (with an amniocentesis) Geet chose baby. It was for Baby's sake that she once again stood up to Naintara at Pindi Queen's Party.  It was NT's question about what name Geet would give baby that triggered Maan's extreme act of Khoon Bhari Mang.  Most recently, it was Maan's outpouring of love for "their" baby that inspired Geet's first "I love you".

Maan's love for "their" baby moved the viewers as well as Geet.  His care for her health, fussing over nausea, sensitivity over food cravings, and wholehearted unconditional love for the baby has us all enthralled with him.    
Conversely, while the baby continually united Maaneet, it divided DevTara.  The baby is proof not only of Dev's gunah it is evidence of his disloyalty to Naintara.  And from the moment she learnt of its existence, NT has lived in fear of the day Dev would learn of it.  She played with fire and destroyed Geet's life, but baby's existence fissured Naintara.  It brought out her feminine insecurities: (1) She was not woman enough to hold her man's attention and (2) not fertile enough to bear a baby while Geet got pregnant right away.  The emotional cracks overtime became ravines.  She fought with Dev over the ghost of Geet-cum-baby.  Dev, on the other hand, started to lie about seeing Geet in Delhi.  Their cumulative secrets and lies including her non-disclosure of the baby truth and unwillingness to face the truth eventually driving Dev into Meera's arms away from hers.  

So, while the baby is yet unborn, she has continually driven the story and is an integral part of it.  It is the silent character that has driven the story – no wonder the audience is so passionate about it's existence.      



    

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POSSIBLE PLOTS
There are a ton of baby scenes in the Baby + Maneet = Romance + Comedy

Here are some Dramatic Plots with and without Baby:

1. The most potential story line could be RETURN OF DEV IN GREY not SAINT. The story can be progressed very well if we could see that DEV wants the child or is trying to get his hands on the child after all the child is the "heir" to all the KHURANA empire and the first child of the family doesn't hold a special place for all. Dev could even use the law here as he is the biological father.   There could then be a CLASH OF THE TITANS and brothers. Maan would never let the child go away from him coz its his and GEET happiness and to maan all that matters is GEET's smile.

2. We could have Sameera attempt to use the baby to drive a wedge between Maaneet if she every enters the story.  I.E.  make Geet feel unattractive an unworthy of Maan.  Make Maan doubt whether he will be a good father given his own miserable childhood. 

3.  If Dev dies and Vicky enters the story.  The next story line that could make people connect with the story emotionally is the digging up of the KHURANA secrets.  The writers explain to us who is VICKY and why does pammi call Maan "chote saab ji.." ' this could lead to that Maan is not the legal heir and they have to move out.  But, the baby via Dev may still be the "true" Khurana heir.  So, there could be a battle between Maaneet and Vicky over baby's right to the Khurana empire with Maaneet being its custodian till the baby is an adult. 

4.  Alternately, if Maan is not a "true" Khurana heir, but the baby is.  Then NT might want to fight for its custody and that of the Khurana empire particularly if Dev dies. 

5. The court room here can refer here to The justice that GEET seeks and since now the child, once present, can prove that dev is the Biological father of the child and not only will they seek justice but the world points fingers at them and now they have to face it together.
If the baby doesn't happen'seedhe bhasha mein if The writers decide on a Miscarriage now some tracks that could be developed:

1. Geets emotional breakdown after the baby is lost. Yes that's the most promising track. Yes maan has lost a child too but he keeps a straight face in front of her coz he needs to get her out of her trance. Maans small gestures like taking her for walks or taking her to a dhabba and even missing a meeting coz she needs him..like dadi calls and tells him that she hasn't eaten nything and maan hurries out of office leaving a meeting behind..Yes in this situation makeher weak and make him as her pillar of strength.

2. Once geet has lost her baby her urge to get Justice increases. Till day she was quiet coz she wanted baby to be safe but now she has lost everything she valued so lets see her fighting for Justice against Dev..and pls Dev should be evil here not saint..he proves her wrong, he accuses her of making him spend a night with her without a relationship and here again Geets parents could stand a role..make them stand with their daughter for justice or against for family's "Izzat".

3. The khurana secrets once reavled could lead to both moving out and since baby is not here let us see GEET becoming his strength and supporting him even after loosing her baby.

4. Geet has lost her baby but her spirit of helping others, so their babies does die  She decides to built a rehabilitation centre for women who have been through same traumatic past.

5. Geet working on political projects where she finds herself engrossed in women who have experience fraudulent marriages and Maan is J or helps her with it.  Or how about maan and GEET visiting places finding proof and people to help them and making their lives better.  No one would come in the open on their own this would require hard work from team actors and even audience and then we can live the Theme of the show too..and truly everyone would like to name their daughter GEET as shown in the first promo..for she not only fights for herself and other JUSTICE against the odds.

With this I sign off. Contribute your ideas for the story and baby pls.      


Edited by mchopra - 03 January 2011 at 8:09am

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Practical Implications of having a baby in the track

Information and Broadcasting minister Ambika Soni in 2009 said, "As long as health and education concerns are kept in mind, it's okay for kids to put make up on."

Preface
1. Legal grounds
2. Ethical grounds
3. Logistics
4. Summation


Preface


While one is interested in seeing the progress of the baby track, one should also take into consideration some factors.

I am gonna make this as sweet and short as possible.


Legal Grounds


The Child is defined as a person in the 0 to 18 years age group.

Hiring or working with babies, child artistes is covered under Indian Laws by The Child Labor (Prohibition and Regulation) Act, 1986 that stipulates certain measures to stop exploitation of child workers. [Link: Act http://www.vakilno1.com/bareacts/childlabouract/childlabouract.htm]

Under the provisions of the Act, some of the salient points are as follows:

7. HOURS AND PERIOD OF WORK. - (1) No child shall be required or permitted to work in any establishment in excess of such number of hours, as may be prescribed for such establishment or class of establishments.

(2) The period of work on each day shall be so fixed that no period shall exceed three hours and that no child shall work for more than three hours before he has had an interval for rest for at least one hour.

(3) The period of work of a child shall be so arranged that inclusive of his interval for rest, under sub-section (2), it shall not be spread over more than six hours, including the time spent in waiting for work on any day.

(4) No child shall be permitted or required to work between 7 p.m. and 8 a.m.

(5) No child shall be required or permitted to work overtime.

(6) No child shall be required or permitted to work in, any establishment on any day on which he has already been working in another establishment.

The National Commission for Protection of Child Rights (NCPCR) was set up in March 2007 under the Commission for Protection of Child Rights Act, 2005, an Act of Parliament (December 2005) and it oversees that all guidelines as enshrined in the Constitution of India and also the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child are met.

One important aspect is that there are a bunch of Child Rights groups such as Shakti Vahini etc.,  that are in the mix who are potential child right's upholders.

8. WEEKLY HOLIDAYS. - Every child employed in an establishment shall be allowed in each week, a holiday of one whole day, which day shall be specified by the occupier in a notice permanently exhibited in a conspicuous place in the establishment and the day so specified shall not be altered by the occupier more than once in three months.

13. HEALTH AND SAFETY. - (1) The appropriate Government may, by notification in the official Gazette, make rules for the health and safety of the children employed or permitted to work in any establishment or class of establishments.

(2) Without prejudice to the generality of the foregoing provisions, the said rules may provide for all or any of the following matters, namely : (a) cleanliness in the place of work and its freedom from nuisance;

(b) disposal of wastes and effluents;

(c) ventilation and temperature;

(d) dust and fume;

(e) artificial humidification;

(f) lighting;

(g) drinking water;

(h) latrine and urinals;

(i) spittoons;

(j) fencing of machinery;

(k) work at or near machinery in motion;

(l) employment of children on dangerous machines;

(m) instructions, training and supervision in relation to employment of children on dangerous machines;

(n) device for cutting off power;

(o) self-acting machines;

(p) easing of new machinery;

(q) floor, stairs and means of access;

(r) pits, sumps, openings in floors, etc.;

(s) excessive weights;

(t) protection of eyes;

(u) explosive or inflammable dust, gas, etc.;

(v) precautions in case of fire;

(w) maintenance of buildings; and

(x) safety of buildings and machinery.


Ethical Grounds

Taking these legal grounds into consideration, one must also take into consideration the ethics of hiring a baby of a few days old or few weeks old or few months old to face the heat, dust, and the impracticality of the current sets anywhere in Mumbai or surrounding areas with the insane viral diseases on the prowl that are not sparing even much older people.


Logistics

Is it possible to shoot with one baby and if the baby falls sick what would they do?

Is it possible to have twin babies so that if one goes sick they can shoot with the other?

They need to hire different babies of different ages to show progression of the baby track or will they continue the track with the same baby?

Nannies/parents present on the sets for babies, would it not put some strictures on working?

How fast paced or even paced will their storyline be?

How are they going to ensure continuity?


Summation

The article 32 of the UN speaks about child labor as follows-"States parties recognize the right of the child to be protected from economic exploitation and from performing any work that is likely to be hazardous or to interfere with the child's education, or to be harmful to the child's health or physical, mental, spiritual, moral or social development."

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Addendum Errata:

1- Is it possible for PH/Channel to book a good, well-lit, safe, in healthy locales, better maintained flat and film the baby track in that flat with a limited crew?

2. Is it possible for the PH/Channel to shoot the baby track at the baby's original home with just the lead actors and a limited technical crew and the Director/Cinematographer going there and shooting it with just a hand held or any of the newer camera equipment?

3. Is it possible for the PH/Channel to hire a doctor/nurse/nanny for the period they want to shoot a baby track? Will that be feasible?

4. How are they gonna ensure maximum safety?

5. Is it possible for the creatives to weave a story and plot along the lines mentioned keeping the constraints in mind without doing grave indignity to the story?

6. Or show a small or marginal leap so as to cast an older toddler or baby

7. Most important points and suggestions: The best option to my mind is to shoot with just the director, the lead pair, the cinematographer at the baby's house with her/his parents present and not take her/him away from his/her natural habitat (this point is an extension on point 2)

8. They can have a second level crew directing the baby and capturing moments of the baby whenever the baby is awake and in good cheer. If I wanted a baby track, as a director, I would tag one second line cinematographer from my technicians with a handheld, stalk the baby for a few days and capture all the essential moments and use SFX (Special Effects) and merge scenes of Maneet that are shot with a fake baby/fake-to-look-like-a-real-baby (doll) - it can be done and it has been done before.

Shoot some scenes with the baby and the lead pair and recycle them at intervals by interspersing with the SFX edited scenes.

There are workarounds as I mentioned in Points 1, 2, 3, 7, 8 so let's look at the bright side too.

[End of Theme]


Episode Analysis:

If Saturday episode made me want to invest in a bakery as it would fetch me good ROI

Tonight's episode made me take that bit a bit further, I think I can now convert that to a BAKERY CHAIN or chain of bakeries.

[End of episode analysis]




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I liked today's episode for two reasons...it had the right amount  of twist and turns and it makes u curious for the next episodeThumbs Up

 
Things I liked..
  • Geet making her status clear and telling MSK that she is no more a Handa and can't wait to become a KhuranaEmbarrassed...very rarely I hv seen female leads so spontaneous when it comes to their marriageThumbs Up...Even MSK was stunned to see his bold Kudi's strong wordsWinkTongue;MSK knows very well that he has given rise to this new Sherni who directly speaks her heart out in front of her man and his expressions suggested that he was feeling proud of his Gith and her courage and determinationEmbarrassed
  • Brij's trademark dialogue about his family ki izzat and Darji's pagdi reminded me of those golden HP daysEmbarrassedThumbs Up...
  • MSK becoming a detective and proving to b the ultimate stalker in town is a phantastic new year gift from the CVs I guessLOLTongue...Who doesn't like intelligent MSK in stalking modeEmbarrassed...Now his stalking is not just limited to Geet..it has gone to the likes of Arjun and other different species nowROFLROFLROFLROFL
  • Arjun-NT phone convo which showed Arjun is not a bad guy and is beginning to think otherwise not becuase of Annie but because of Geet (point to b noted hereWinkTongue) is quite interestingTongue;Mayb Arjun will b the one to save Geet from Brij's hand and thus gaining MSK's trustErmm
  • MSK hving his doubts on Arjun when the real villain is Brijjy is another interesting trackEvil Smile...this track makes the story damn interestingThumbs Up...Now it remains to b seen how Brij plays his card with Arjun and whether Arjun falls in Brij's trap or doublecrosses Brij and in all this what will make MSK violent as per the articlesEvil Smile
  • Arjun-MSK confrontation was the highlight of today's episodeStarStarStarStar;Best part was Arjun giving a fitting reply to MSKThumbs Up;Also there is a symbolism in the scene where Arjun is standing downstairs and MSK is shown upstairs watching him but then MSK had to come downstairs to Arjun's level to talk to him thus indicating that in the future both MSK-Arjun will stand in the same level and might fight against BrijErmm
  • MSK-Geet phone chat was cute and realisticEmbarrassed
  • I liked the last scene where MSK is after Arjun while Brij too reaches there..makes curious for tomorrow's episode...who doesn't want to see the hide and seek game between the 3 hottiesWinkLOLLOLLOL...And notice something both MSK-Arjun r walking on same side and in same direction while Brij is on their opposite side and walking in opposite direction...again symbolismWink..find out what ?LOLTongue
 
 
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  • Annie in  both her scenes with MSK and Geet was a big disappointmentThumbs Down..in fact when she comes to know that Arjun is NT's brother,her reaction was nilConfused...Even Annie-MSK scene din't hv any impact thanks to Nikunj's expressionless actLOL;Nikunj seriously needs to rethink on her acting careerSmile
  • GC's haircut gone all wrongLOLOuch...I guess he now needs to grow his hair soonROFL..but I guess it will b alright after few weeks once the hair grows a bitLOL
 
 
My Take on the new Horse PromoLOL
 
Ok the promo might look funny but its very well shot and can b a good trp pullerStar..after a long time its a positive promo...once Geet had this dreamEmbarrassed ..Anyone remember the fake engagement confession episode where MSK was taunting Geet by asking her whether a rajkumar will come for her on a white horse and we saw Geet in tearsCry..and today the promo suggests her dream will come true because MSK will make sure her dream comes trueEmbarrassed..thats why the promo is a sure shot trp pullerThumbs Up...the promo is from Geet's POV of how she has dreamt and how finally MSK is making it happen for herSmile...
 
 
 
My Episode Rating:9/10...I loved the episode for logic..story-progress and the curiosity elementThumbs Up..Promo in the end can b a good trp pullerTongue


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