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anjali.nair

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Posted: 24 December 2005 at 1:21am | IP Logged
Originally posted by dare_dis_devil


n not only in terms of modernity, but seriously evn d kinda rituals n ceremonies they show on teevee is like.....outrageous n totally bizzare....


i don't think the rituals n ceremonies are outrageous. infact i think that's the only thing where they show accuracy to an extend.Tongue

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Posted: 24 December 2005 at 7:27am | IP Logged
Originally posted by bluepink

Originally posted by dare_dis_devil


n not only in terms of modernity, but seriously evn d kinda rituals n ceremonies they show on teevee is like.....outrageous n totally bizzare....


i don't think the rituals n ceremonies are outrageous. infact i think that's the only thing where they show accuracy to an extend.Tongue

I agree with bluepink , i don't know what you are reffering to as bizzare and outrageous. But those ceratinly very close to reality . In my opinion life isn't 100% removed from reality on TV . Like i said its exxagerated not all fake.
Only thing thats highly stupid are the medical , legal and police work shown on T.V . There's never any reserach in it .

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Posted: 24 December 2005 at 8:49am | IP Logged
Yeh exactLy.............Wht ever they display iz completely Fake......... I hav read many books abt the culture of India.........and Even The BOOK "GEETA" In that book i found that there was written that their true culture adds PARDA too.......but juz look wht they wear, wht ever they do in drama's is juz fake and nothing more than that and that iz the main thing which is spolling our culture too and their own culture too......that is the basic reason y we r far away frm Reallity And Success..........but to wht use we watch that Stupid indian dramas..........the reason that i think iz there dressing, and freeness..........thats it.......the way they talk wid their parents..........huh! thats sooo stupid.......i mean k no body who lives in India can imagine to talk like that or to have a baby before marriage......Lolz.........

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Posted: 24 December 2005 at 7:04pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Sania_Hitler

Yeh exactLy.............Wht ever they display iz completely Fake......... I hav read many books abt the culture of India.........and Even The BOOK "GEETA" In that book i found that there was written that their true culture adds PARDA too.......but juz look wht they wear, wht ever they do in drama's is juz fake and nothing more than that and that iz the main thing which is spolling our culture too and their own culture too......that is the basic reason y we r far away frm Reallity And Success..........but to wht use we watch that Stupid indian dramas..........the reason that i think iz there dressing, and freeness..........thats it.......the way they talk wid their parents..........huh! thats sooo stupid.......i mean k no body who lives in India can imagine to talk like that or to have a baby before marriage......Lolz.........



Sania it seems you are highly confused about any of these views and absolutely incorrect. I'd love to know the names of the books you have read ( as i am voracious reader and then we can disccuss )
Now are you talking about our holy book "Bhagwad Geeta " and assuming we have parda too ?
Let me tell you Hindu civilasation glorified the sensual body .  According to Kamasutra , Vatsayana- Kama (Sexual desire) is one of the ways to reach mokhsa
The Shivalinga, a phallic symbol of the deity Shiva in sexual union with his consort, goddess Parvati, is worshipped all over India. Lord Rama and his wife Seetha may be glorified for their sense of duty and fidelity, but India is also the land of Krishna, celebrated for his indulgences with beauties- gopi's and our Draupadi who had 5 husbands !!

Temple sculptures of Hindu deities seek neither to conceal any body parts nor even censor their proportions. Depictions of Hindu gods and goddesses are usually of graceful, sensual proportions, the men long limbed and athletic, the women with slim waists and fulsome bodies. Stone figurines of divinities and mortals at the 10th century Khajuraho temples in Madhya Pradesh depict a variety of sexual unions, .
 The average Hindu was conditioned to accept the body and sexuality as natural aspects of the cycle of birth and death.
Hindu cultures came under pressure from Buddhist and Jain teachings that advocated physical and sexual renunciation. During the Mughal rule of the subcontinent (1556-1707), sexuality was put under purdah (veil) and women further withdrew from the public domain.Unhappy
Next came colonization by the British , with their Victorian prudery and their efforts to civilise the "sexually excotic natives" Victorian prudery led to the confusion and sexuality, which had enjoyed abundant expression in the enviorment for centuries, suddenly found itself choked. Caught between many worlds, its natural growth became warped/ Thats when came the copying the Western culture !
And something i forgot to add our great Father of the Nation - Mahatma Gandhi - " he said lets tear down the purdah "Clap(these will be many of hundreds of things we'll for ever be gratefull you, Bapu)

Therefore , now if you look at the dress sense , many changes have come since 1947 . Although Culture in India has progressed and is sometime confused .But in defense of those few people in India in the Big Metros , coming from modern societies . They are confortable with what their wear - sleevelss top and Jeans or women who wear low cut blouse and Saree.The rural India remains the same and conservative . If we are talking about promiscuity , its subtle and not rampant , so happens in some families . Even kids disrespecting their parents this too happens in some families .....but not all !!

So the bottom line is that our TV shows , show india exxagerated !!



Also i'd like to advise you not to insult and hurt people's feelings by making comments like "
spolling our culture too and their own culture too......that is the basic reason y we r far away frm Reallity And Success..........but to wht use we watch that Stupid indian dramas....

This can be misinterptated in many way . To me it sounds like you are accusing Indian drama of influencing and spoiling your culture.
Also we Indians are not far from reality or not succesfull !!



Edited by indygirl - 24 December 2005 at 7:56pm

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Posted: 24 December 2005 at 7:26pm | IP Logged
i 101% agree with u indygirl Approve . u haven't left anything 4 me to say. Cry anyways... u hve lotz of strong points Smile

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Posted: 24 December 2005 at 8:51pm | IP Logged
i guess basically the consensus is that most of india isn't what they show on tv but that doesn't mean its not like that everywhere. In some parts of india the culture reflected in tv can be applied. the culture isn't completely indian but is based on indian culture. it basically depends on where in india u actually are to decide whether or not the culture they show on tv is true. in some places women are unwed mothers, dress openly in others they are completely respectful and stuff. indian culture is diverse. do i have it right?

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Posted: 24 December 2005 at 9:54pm | IP Logged

Originally posted by Sania_Hitler

Yeh exactLy.............Wht ever they display iz completely Fake......... I hav read many books abt the culture of India.........and Even The BOOK "GEETA" In that book i found that there was written that their true culture adds PARDA too.......but juz look wht they wear, wht ever they do in drama's is juz fake and nothing more than that and that iz the main thing which is spolling our culture too and their own culture too......that is the basic reason y we r far away frm Reallity And Success..........but to wht use we watch that Stupid indian dramas..........the reason that i think iz there dressing, and freeness..........thats it.......the way they talk wid their parents..........huh! thats sooo stupid.......i mean k no body who lives in India can imagine to talk like that or to have a baby before marriage......Lolz.........

Sania_Hitler, nothing personal against you however if you are referring to the Holy Bhagawad Geeta as the "book Geeta" please try not to in future. This is a very disrespectful way to refer to the holy text of millions of people to say the least. This is considered the Divine song from GOD. And as this is a public forum it would be prudent on your part not to be so casual in your phrasing or reference of such holy books or scriptures.

The Shreemad Bhagawad Geeta is not meant to merely reflect Indian or anyone's culture. To learn about Indian culture one would have to spend time in the country to understand what the true lifestyle is, which significantly varies in parts of the country.

And if you dont like "Stupid Indian Dramas" please dont watch them. this would help you from not blemishing your culture if you believe it has been.

Yes, there are Indian women who can imagine getting pregnant before marraige or never to have married at all by choice. It's not the rule of Indian culture but there are many instances, with or without their choice, with or without family support that women have babies before marraige. It's not wrong or shameful, one's route to pregnancy doesnt reflect their character.



Edited by Rindam - 24 December 2005 at 10:47pm

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Posted: 24 December 2005 at 10:22pm | IP Logged

Originally posted by mkzara

i guess basically the consensus is that most of india isn't what they show on tv but that doesn't mean its not like that everywhere. In some parts of india the culture reflected in tv can be applied. the culture isn't completely indian but is based on indian culture. it basically depends on where in india u actually are to decide whether or not the culture they show on tv is true. in some places women are unwed mothers, dress openly in others they are completely respectful and stuff. indian culture is diverse. do i have it right?

huni, most of the serials are really not a true reflection of indian culture. Dressing and festivities yeah they are close, but motherhood, marital laws, parental approvals and plastic surgeries these are really adding just some zing to scriptwriting skills and not an accurate take. No serial or movie really is up until now, I dont think any movie has captured India truly, in my opinion. Its very hard to.

"Mouna Raagam" an old Mani Ratnam classic is an approximate reflection of a young couple from the South. Mani Ratnam's movies are less exaggerated I have found.

TV, what i cant quite give you a reference because its all EktaLOL and well her team likes its fiction

I believe, culture evolves with time, India as a nation and the whole subcontinent as a whole has seen many generations of people and many rulers who have left their imprint. So the India today is an amalgam of what could have had its orginal seed from the British, Portugese, Mughal or maybe as old as Dravidian or Aryan times. Who knows and why bother?And why does everyone believe Western Culture is "wrong". No it's not "wrong" or "right".

And clothing well, The saree in fact is quite revealing an attire compared to jeans and a T-shirt. Most of my friends think Im trying to play it hot when I wear a saree compared to when I wear a gown.

"Indian culture is very diverse" you have this one rightLOL

Vishesh, I have never had the chance to watch Buniyaad, HumLog and all, maybe I should.

 



Edited by Rindam - 24 December 2005 at 10:25pm

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