#Devil's Den# Pyar Ka Izhaar Aur Takraar

Smooth Criminal

So it's the due date for my assignment and all the devils better read and discuss else I will come after you for revenge and it can get very nasty...just ask Parsa.

I have a new professor her name is Professor Airport. If you don't know whom I am speaking of, search somewhere below she is probably there. So anyways, Professor Airport has given me the assignment of deciphering Arjun through the study of Mahabharata.

We have had the pleasure of meeting very interesting non-existent characters a few weeks ago. There is Anvesha Khurana better known as Non-existent sister and then Arjun Rathod the stealthy villain (maybe). Arjun is a character that can go in many directions. He has the prospective to be molded in to whatever the story demands, he can transform from villain to saint.

Arjun Singh Rathod was first introduced to us while competing in a street fight. What was the point of introducing him to us in such a way? Introducing Arjun in an underground fight has left is with the impression that he is a risk taker and likes danger. It told us that he is not someone that you want as your enemy. Not only does he take part in the fight against the undefeated champion, but also succeeds in his battle.  He is a character with strong will and determination.

Arjun may come off as a hard-hitting character, but when we see him in the scene with his sister, Naintara, we realize that he is also a caring brother. He vows to keep her safe and swears revenge upon Maan Singh Khurana, whom he believes has ruined his sisters' life. This kind side to Arjun might as well be his weakness.

Naintara has poisoned Arjun's mind and has not told him the entire truth.  He is misguided and possibly digging his own grave. Being ill informed always leaves blind spots. The blind spots may lead to his loss. He does not seem to be completely evil and upholds morals to some extent. For example, giving Geet advice despite her being a stranger to him. The question is what will he lose? What if he really falls in love with Anvesha while playing his games? If he does, then when his truth comes out Anvesha may not accept him.

Arjun, it appears is proactive and a planner. He makes foolproof preparations before taking any action. From the first moment, he has drawn out how he will bring down Maan. Maan and Geet are getting married and it just so happens that Arjun opens an event management company. He has done his research. This gives him the upper hand. He is able to make his way in to their home. Not only that, he has also made a place in the hearts of the women in Maan's life, Geet, Daadi, and Anvesha. The women in Maan's life have the most influence over him. Arjun possibly has discovered that.

Arjun dynamic:

•  Arjun has targeted Maan's sister, Anvesha in his plan for revenge. Though it is not clear what his plan is, he is toying with Anvesha's feelings. He may believe in the saying, "An eye for an eye". Maan hurt his sister and in return he will hurt Anvesha, hence indirectly targeting Maan. What can he do by using Anvesha as a pawn? He can tarnish the Khurana's reputation by maligning Anvesha as a characterless girl. 

•  Has has to have effect on Maan and Geet's relationship. Arjun wants to take away Maan's happiness, which is Geet. In order for Maan and Geet to take a hit, Arjun must bring Geet in to play. Maan will never approve of Arjun as a partner for Anvesha. Knowing this, Anvesha turns to Geet for help. Geet then convinces Maan to allow Anvesha to be with Arjun. This gives him the perfect chance to target Maan.

•  He can marry Anvesha and leave her or malign her reputation. That is when Maan will blame Geet for taking part in the destruction of his sister's life. Another possibility is that Arjun may actually fall in love with Anvesha, but must carry on with his revenge for the sake of his sister. If Geet and Arjun become friends, she may aid him in taking the right path.

•  Another possible plot that can be shown is Arjun falling for Geet. He can then fight for her with Maan. Though he will fail just like Karna did when fighting for Draupadi against Arjuna.

 

Taking Inspiration from the Mahabharata

(Disclaimer: Do not kill me if I kill the epic. This is purely from my POV and is open for debate.)

Note: I will be looking at this thorough Arjun's point only.

Character from the Mahabharata that Arjun can possibly resemble is Duryodhona.

• Duryodhona represents Arjun, because Naintara steers him in the wrong direction. He only sees what she wants. Similarly Duryodhona was misled by Sakuni, his uncle. Sakuni in attempt to keep the kingdom in the hands of the Kauravas, guides Duryodhona.

• Durydhona attempts to take the Kuru Kingdom from the Pandavas. In Geet, Arjun may try to take over Khurana Constructions or make them bankrupt. Duryodhona was actually successful in this mission with the help of Sakuni. It led to the exile of the Pandavas fro 13 years. In the show however, the Khurana's can rebuild their empire. Geet being Maan's support and strength through the ordeal

• Eventually Duryodhona is defeated by the Pandeva's in the Kurukshetra war. Arjun can continue to believe that he has succeeded in over taking the Khurana's but eventually Maan will again regain his position, just like the Pandavas did after the war.

Arjun as a character has immense potential to grow.  He basically has grey shades. He is neither good nor bad. He can change according to the information he is given. Through his eyes, he is not doing anything debauched, but merely fulfilling the duties of a brother.  To him, Maan is the felon.  Like any other person, he believes in justice being served for the ones who have been wronged. In this case, it's his sister. He is simply taking the side of his sister and fighting for her. He may be misinformed, but that does not change to what extent he is willing to ruin someone's life. That is the major difference between him and someone who is actually a positive character. He uses his intelligence for evil despite knowing the difference between right and wrong. Positive characters tend to stay one-dimensional. However, someone like Arjun can take many forms, may it be good, evil, or both. Now that is an appealing individual. He is someone who adds the right amount of spice and twist in the story, someone who should always stay true to his shady nature.

Here goes a song in the name of Arjun.

"Annie are you okay? Are you okay Annie? You've been hit by, you've been struck by a smooth criminal" 🤣 🤣

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFvENQBc-F8[/YOUTUBE]

 

 

Character Index for Mahabharata (If you are not familiar with Mahabharata)

Arjuna - One of the five Pandava brothers. He is the most skilled archer and is always able to hit his target where he wants. Though he was very accomplished and could take down any enemy, he maintained high morals.

Karna - Son of Kunti and Surya the sun god. Kunti bore him as an unwed mother and could not raise him in fear of society. So she set him down the river and was adopted by Adhiratha. He did not know the origin of his birth till later. Karna's friendship and loyalty to Duryodhona bound him to fight against the Pandava brothers. But he did not have knowledge of Duryodhona's enmity against the Pandavas. He especially had animosity against Arjuna for winning over Draupadi. Is defeated by Arjuna during the battle of Kurukshetra.

Duryodhona -  Son of the Kauravas. His father was born blind and hence was denied power over the land, while the Pandavas were given power. This created a hatred for them in Duryodhona's heart as he was denied the throne. Duryodhona was

Sakuni - Duryodhona's uncle who had misguided him filled more poison in his heart for the Pandavas. Sakuni, wanted to take the Kuru Kingdom from the Pandavas for his nephews.

Subadra ' She was one of Arjuna's wives and sister of Krishna. She marries Ajruna despite her family being against it because they were cousins. Krishna advises Arjuna and Subadra to elope because Krishna had a soft spot for Arjuna and wanted the best for his sister. Subadra then pretends to kidnap Arjuna, so her family does not blame him for their elopement.

Edited by Ann.A - 13 years ago

Characters come in various colors. I like the gray ones. They are full of potential. Imperfect beings that make the story dynamic. Through their mere presence they create suspense. The truly intriguing ones can play others like pawn, but are somehow still human. Arjun Rathod is one such enigma. He's a fighter, a planner, a risk taker, a thinker, a free spirit. He loves Naintara and has bought her bull about Mean Swarthi Kameena. Why would he not? She is his trusted sister. Maan does not fall for his "peace" gambit, but the 3 ladies in his life appear susceptible to Arjun. Daadi he trust he seems o have won, Annie to his charms has fallen prey, Geet wants to give him scope. He may also have an admirer in Tasha, who can help him make inroads into Khurana Construction. But, let us not underestimate BabaMaanDev.

What we do not know is what bad story NT has given about begunah Maan. What Arjun does not know is that the story is false and his sister is not suicidal, but homicidal. How will we react when he learns the truth? Will he be able to live with his actions? Will he be the Arjuna, Karna, or Duryodhana of this story? For those of you conphused ' Geet mein yeh log kaha hai? I am talking about the great Indian Epic ' Mahabharata, the ultimate treasure trove of grey characters.

• Arjun: Is his name emblematic of his ultimately "white" nature? Arjun* Why might the paradigm fit? He is woeing the Advil against her brother's wishes for his own strategic reasons. Just like Arjun entranced Balaraama & Krishna's sister before her marriage to another. He has the strategic, artistic and combative nature. And once he learns the truth (becomes enlightened), as Arjuna was by Krishna on the cusp of the kurukshetra war, he may fight to defeat his own blood (NT).

•  Karna: Or will his obligation to NT, as her brother, overwhelm his sense of justice or fair play (assuming he has some)? If so, will he gift away his armour like Karna at the start of the battle upon learning the truth of his birth and awareness that he was siding with evil? Yet, then proceed to side with NT regardless due solely to loyalty.

• Duryodhana: Or will he stay staunch to the bitter end like Duryodhana. Seeing no wrong in what he is doing ' his mind entirely corrupted by his puppeteer (NT). Giving Maan takkar to his last breath/exit.

Which of these Gray Archetypes he will follow is for the Geet:HSP team to decide and for us to gobble up or gag upon. It would be kewl if they sketched remorse, inner-conflict, isolation, and desperation into Arjun Rathod's story that will keep him gray. How so?

•  An occasional bout of perception that he is deluding an innocent girl, who herself has wronged none except the audience with her presence.

• Glimmers of guilt when he is with Geet. Unbidden attraction to her radiant warmth

•  Raw regret or rage that he cannot meet the eyes of MSK when he is defeated or enlightened

There are a 101 paths that Arjun can take into his destructive destiny. Here is but, a quick sampling:

• Baazigar: He kills Anwesha not immediately but, later when he realizes that she is not MSK's jaan. He then gains entre into KC via Geet, whom he quickly becomes enamoured with. Then we can have Darr or a outright powerstruggle

• Corporate Espionage: He can slowly siphon the secrets of Khurana Construction directly from the home, Tasha, etc. during the course of the event planning. Then use it against MSK when he's back from his honeymoon.

•  Marriage Con: He can marry his way into the family ' seducing Annie and then maybe saving the bride from Brij, so its hard for even Maan to say "no". Then make work and family life for Maaneet total regret.

•  Contract Out: He can bring recruit outside muscle (i.e. Sameera or Brij, as they may have mutual goals and would not know each other). But, he does not seem the designating type.

•  Direct Warfare: We can rule out a straight up war at this early stage, as Arjun is intent on keeping his intentions hidden. But, later such a all-out corporate competition war might happen.

Edited by AnjanaYYZ - 13 years ago

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"I SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I AM UPTO NO GOOD" 

"And hereby Pledge to diss All de Spoilers n Spoof de Pictures" 

WATCH ON STAR PLAYER 

Edited by Ann.A - 13 years ago

Pyar Pyar Pyar!!! Uff Kitna Pyar!! For the people who would never refer to their feelings as love have finally done it! Now we know what they feel is PYAR! They have uttered it many times in the last tow episodes enough to make up for all the time they not say it.😆 They finally said it!! They said "I love you"!! 😲 Not once, but trice for Maan and twice for Geet.

The episode begins with Geet discovering that Maan had faked the snow fall for her. She gets annoyed and then realizes that he did it only to make his "ILU" moment special. This was much better then what we saw the day before. Geet also gives him a kiss, though not where he wanted. But it seemed he was pleased. 😆  I'm not sure that too much soft mushy dialogues in good for my glucose level. Keep it on the down low.

Entry of Brij! I am super excited for this track. He says one line and it takes the cake!! He will hunt down Geet where ever she is!! Go Brij!! Find her and make her life miserable either way he will end up taking the fall at the end. Bring on the twist!! welcome back Brij!!

My favorite scene is the breakfast scene. Maan keeps joking with Geet and she pays him back for it by embarrassing her in front of Daadi and Anvesha. I think Maan's behavior is justified. That is the Maan from HP days. He likes to be private and does not like display of his emotions and life in public...that is how it was from day one. So Geet telling Daadi and Annie about how he has changed in love wont sit well with him. He likes to be the person with power and dignity...showing him as some lover boy in front of the world goes against his nature and that is precisely why he is angry. 

Maan version Dusht Danav is back!!!! I am glad the CV's finally have decided to bring back the old Maan. It is justly apt that she tells Geet to draw a line between their relationship and the rest of the world. That is exactly what the Maan Singh Khurana we know would do. He is a private person and only Geet should be able to see the change in him. To the rest of the world he is MSK. This is how it should be, to the world Maan is Angry young man and to Geet he is lover boy.

Arjun and Annie scene: Today i think it was better. Nikunj still needs improvement though.  Arjun is a kaccha khiladi and knows exactly what he is doing. I wonder how he will ruin Maan and Geet's wedding. Will he team up with Brij? If he teams up with Brij and later find the truth about what Naintara really did, he may counter Brij in the process. That will get him in to Maan's good books. He will eventually fall in love with Annie and she may be the one to reveal the real story behind his sisters deeds. Arjun may have too choose between love and  family, but my judgment of him says he will choose what is the right path. This will prove Geet's belief in humanity to be just and prove Maan's view that she is naive wrong. Which is appropriate.

Overall I liked the episode.  Much better then yesterday. Good transitions between scenes and much better execution.  👍🏼


Edited by Ann.A - 13 years ago

Edited by darlunia - 13 years ago

~Res~

ughh!!😳🤔

skipped sleep for analysis yest.. thn 8-8 duty... n gotta catch a train at 6 tomrw morning!... so yea i need sleep..!!

One plea... yea plea it has bcom!

Who ever who decides what comes where...!! n who ever who chides you come here...!! needs to get there braincells drycleaned!.. i suggest Ariel Oxyblu.. kyunki Dag nahi.. behatar safayi dikhegi..!!

T BRIJ!!😎 yeh dil maange mor!😳

As usual screen play was good.. execution and editing  was bad!!

PS : MSK did not overreact!
PPS : Nikunj cant act!! n Piyush tries to act!
PPPS : MSK has no sista!! n tats fact!

bye...

il edit if train is possible!😆
Edited by mi7chimes - 13 years ago

The tale of Mahabharatha(MB) is itself so complex that trying to fit a modern day TV series completely into it is a mammoth task. However MB is a story that has a bit of everything - love, hatred, jealousy, fall from grace, redemption, return of the prodigals, cruelty, kindness, scheming, saviors, evil and finally the triumph of goodness. So you can see parts of any story in the MB and the MB in any story by extension. 😉

The characters of the Mahabharatha are themselves so finely crafted that there is not one character that is simple and this is what makes the tale so fascinating. It is a story of human folly and how no one is exempt from it. ⭐️

I know a lot of people think that Geet is following the MB but I do not subscribe to that theory. For starters Geet is no Draupadi. She may have had 2 husbands but that is where the similarity ends. Draupadi had a loving family to back her plus she was accomplished in her own right.

Maan is actually a mixture of all the Pandavas and a few characteristics of the Kauravas
- he is a man who is very intelligent and sticks to his ethics like Yudhistira and like Yudhistira he is a one-woman man 😉
- he is a man who has strength like Bhima
- he is a man who once he sets his eyes on a target, he will acquire at all costs, much like Arjuna
- he is a man who works by his instincts and can anticipate trouble much like Nakul
- Sahadev was good with animals and a great swordsman. So if I have to pick one of the qualities to match Maan, I would pick the latter because he was involved in a sword fight with Brij 😆 😆
- Maan is arrogant and this is a quality that Duryodhana had
- Maan is also not a people person. The Pandavas were well liked and the Kauravas were not so I guess that would make him like Duryodhana.
- His love for his family would make him more like the Pandavas



NE does not fit in anywhere because she does not exist just like the Pandavas did not have a sister Maan does not have a sister haan 🤣

Dev is a confused character who started off like Duryodhana being guided by Shakuni (NT) but then went rogue and decided to do his own thing 🤣

Daadi would be a combination of Bhishma (the wise grandfather bound to the throne) and Dhristhrashtra (the blind king). Daadi is blinded by her ability to take things at face value and her maternal feelings.

Arjun (combination of Duryodhana and Karna)
- he comes to take revenge because of the machinations of NT (Shakuni) so that makes him similar to Duryodhana
- he seems to have morals unlike his sister and this makes him similar to Karna.   Karna was a very virtuous person but he sided with the unjust because of his friendship with Duryodhana. Just like that Arjun will side with NT and avenge his sister's perceived insult.
- Karna was very intelligent and Arjun is the same.
- Karna was very good at strategy and plotted the downfall of several warriors on the battlefield. Arjun is planning the downfall of Maan
- Karna had his armor taken away and this was the cause of his death. Arjun's armor is the fact that he believes his sister was wronged. The day he realizes that this is false is the day he will fall.
- The reason for Duryodhana's downfall was a woman (Draupadi) and the reason for Arjun's downfall will be one too. No it will not be NE 🤢.....shame on you for even thinking that 😆. Geet will be his Achilles Heel and it is her faith in him that will bring him down in the end. He will be able to handle Maan but he will be unable to break the faith the Geet has in him. It is the goodness in Geet that will win him over in the end and vanquish the monster in him.

The biggest problem with the MB theory - there is no Krishna - if there was no Krishna there would not have been a MB.

So I rest my case 🤣






Edited by liv2laugh - 13 years ago

Helloo Nissar, CVs, Barry, friends et al … a good episode with interesting upcoming events. But before I begin I wanted to voice my disappointment at the one of the spoilers posted today on Geet FB.

Yesterday's episode ended with a good cliffhanger – will Arjun push NE over the edge ? Is that part of his plan to get back at MSK?

You shud have let us wallow in our perceived impression that this was Arjun's plan. Why did u nullify that with one of your spoilers today (before airing the show, mind u) which showed NE and Geet together ? Arrgghhh !!!!!

Caught red-handed !
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Moorkhon ki shehzaadi finally figures out it's fake snow…LOL ! Loved Maan's guilty look. So now Geet has also started reading Maan's eyes ….wah bhai wah ! Loved this scene ! Magar aaj yeh baat apne mere dil pe likh di ! Some very good dialogues, Barry !
Liked the kiss on the cheek too…and Maan's first reaction … out of this world ! GC/Maan – Fantastico !

Brij
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Oye ! Welcome back !!!
Who posted bail for Brij ?
Who will be a better villain – Brij…NT…Dev…or…Arjun ?

Arjun-NE
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One thing's clear…Arjun loves taking risks but can also rein in his killer instinct at the last minute.

@ Breakfast table
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Liked the usual Maaneet nok-jhok. This time Geet is bolder and exposes Maan which he does not appreciate. Ranjha Maan to Angry MSK. Geet has yet to learn when not to provoke Maan.

One thing I must say, even tho she is shaky pouring that cuppa coffee with hand, she, a new mobile owner, seems to be pretty deft at SMSing with one hand !

Precap - Mein tumhare liye Maan hoon, baaki sabhi logon ke liye, abhibhi Maan Singh Khurana hoon.

Arjun-NE in KC
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Arjun saying – Mera maksad Maan Singh Khurana ki shaadi tak hi pura hoga….interesting !

Let's noodle on some of the possibilities –
• Arjun sprung Brij out of jail – how does Arjun know Brij ? Do Arjun-NT have a heart-to-heart talk wherein NT tells the truth ?
• NT sprung Brij out of jail – NT is unsure if Arjun can deliver so she uses Brij as Plan B. Who else hates Geet as much as NT ? Brij, of course
• Brij's old gang sprung him out by stringing along some savings…why is Brij in Delhi (per the precap) ?
• Tomorrow's promo dithered on the sonogram… that means Brij's arrival is harmful to baby.
• How will Brij react when he finds out that Geet is getting married to Maan ? Weren't Bri-Maan at logger heads in HP? Will Brij still be willing to hurt Geet now ?
• Will Brij hurt Geet coz she sent him to prison, forget everything in between ?
• What if all the chakki peesing has calmed down Brij enuff to have 20/20 vision (a far cry), eventually understand the real culprit ?
• What if Brij goes after Dev/NT ?
• Will that pit Brij against Arjun ?
• What if Maaneet/Brij unite against NT/Dev and fight for the HP land ? Wouldn't that bring in the rest of Geet's family into the picture and extend that storyline ?
• How about pairing Sasha with Brij ? Why not ? Wouldn't they make a fantastic couple, oozing poison ?

Nissar, Barry, CVs – good job on the episode and keeping our interest in the upcoming possibilities. Find good actors to replace AS and Kanika. Now with Brij back, we need Dev and Sasha too back in the game. Let there be justice for all !

Good to see the old MSK back at the same time as Brij !

Gurmeet, Drashti – Fabulous….eagerly looking forward to the sangeet :)Edited by starlite7 - 13 years ago

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behti hawa sa tha woh (tha woh')
udti patang sa tha woh (tha woh')
kahan gaya usae dhoondo

hum ko to raahein thi chalati
woh khud apni raatein banata
girta, sambhalta,
darr darr ke chalta tha woh
hum ko kal ki fikr sataati
woh bus raat ka jashn manaata
har raat ko khul ke jeeta tha woh

sulagti dhoop mein andehere  jaisa
raegistaan mein dhoop ke jaisa
mann ke ghav pe namak jaisa tha woh

hum sahme se rehte koovein mein
woh ladkiyon mein gotae lagata
seddhi dhara cheer ke tairta tha woh

baadal awara tha woh
yaar humara nahin tha woh
kahan gaya usae dhoondo

 

Edited by Cute_Ash - 13 years ago

I found today's episode quite interesting minus some very familiar issues.

I liked the first scene. Barry, your words are beautiful. I loved that the mutual trust was brought up here. Maan knows just how much Geet trusts him. Geet, along with her trust in Maan will be his pillar of strength when his past comes crashing back. Geet's kiss was a very sweet surprise for Maan.  Although Maan Knows his Geet is a Sherani, her boldness still catches him off guard at times. 😳🤣 (Everything and everyone is phassst compared to Maan) 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I know many of us hoped that Arjun will push the Non-existent one off the terrace, but nothing in life comes that that easy. 😵 So, unfortunately for us, Arjun does change his mind at the very last second.😡🥱 I must say, Arjun is very brave to be "romancing" NES at the Khurana Mansion. Piyush was very good in this scene.😊 As for Nikunj, her blindfolds kept me from being able to assess her acting skills by the diameter of her eyes. ❓

Brij...How much I love to see you. Yes I can't believe I'm saying this given that I loathed the first time around. 😆 But since you've been gone I have come to appreciate the real villain that you are unlike the phony one in limbo 🤣

Now let's discuss my favorite scene of the episode, the breakfast table scene.  My first thought was "why are they repeating another sequence?", but then it turned out to be a very interesting one. 😊 Maan is definitely a changed man  where Geet is concerned. He is in love and does not want to waste a chance to romance his fiancee.  However, that doesn't mean that he is a changed man to the whole world.  He was and is and always will the MSK when it comes to everyone else. 😳 When Geet exposed Maan in front of the dadi and Annie, he was irked because his MSK persona was shaken. It was not merely the fact that he was exposed that riled him up but the comments about him being a changed man.  😳 His angry reaction is very true to his character,  and did not appear OTT. Although I like Geet's Maan, It's great to see that angry MSK back.😳😛 The way Maan backs her into the wall vowed to not touch her till their marriage were words spoken about of anger. Maan is always known to have no control over his words where is anger is concerned. He himself admitted to that. 😆Nonetheless, it is quite obvious that Maan is going to have to back out of this vow, given that Maan can barely keep her hands off her angry or not. And, Geet flaunting a sexy red dress is only going to make it that much more difficult for Maan. ☺️🤣🤣

Now coming to the issues:

1)      Dubbing in the first scene

2)      Nikunj non-existent acting skills 🥱🥱🥱🥱🤢

Edited by MarshP - 13 years ago