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Posted: 22 December 2010 at 1:33pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Anamika21

Originally posted by ankit_nyc

 Big smileIn case some people missed the earlier post.......Mussarat works in a restaurant now.......So not only does he put rotis on his table but on other people's table as well.........Himesh told him muje tumhare table pein roti chahiye and look Mussarat has rotis on his table.......what more do you want Himesh to do for him? this is what Himesh Promised and it is done........Tongue Let's see VS and SW put rotis on people';s table.......Himesh nein to karke dikhaya......Tongue
 
He owns a restuarent and he does not work as a waiter in a restaurent.
 
I feel he should not be insulted like this.
 
He did not succeed as a singer and many more other singers did not too.
 
Sabke takdeer main success nahi hota.
 
 
 
I think he was just joking. Dekha nahin kitni baar zubaan nikal kar Tongue chipkaya hua hai. 

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Posted: 22 December 2010 at 1:35pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by xobile

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 Big smileIn case some people missed the earlier post.......Mussarat works in a restaurant now.......So not only does he put rotis on his table but on other people's table as well.........Himesh told him muje tumhare table pein roti chahiye and look Mussarat has rotis on his table.......what more do you want Himesh to do for him? this is what Himesh Promised and it is done........Tongue Let's see VS and SW put rotis on people';s table.......Himesh nein to karke dikhaya......Tongue
 
He owns a restuarent and he does not work as a waiter in a restaurent.
 
I feel he should not be insulted like this.
 
He did not succeed as a singer and many more other singers did not too.
 
Sabke takdeer main success nahi hota.
 
 
 
I think he was just joking. Dekha nahin kitni baar zubaan nikal kar Tongue chipkaya hua hai. 
 
Sorry it was a very rude post.
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Posted: 22 December 2010 at 1:40pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by xobile

Originally posted by Anamika21

Originally posted by ankit_nyc

 Big smileIn case some people missed the earlier post.......Mussarat works in a restaurant now.......So not only does he put rotis on his table but on other people's table as well.........Himesh told him muje tumhare table pein roti chahiye and look Mussarat has rotis on his table.......what more do you want Himesh to do for him? this is what Himesh Promised and it is done........Tongue Let's see VS and SW put rotis on people';s table.......Himesh nein to karke dikhaya......Tongue
 
He owns a restuarent and he does not work as a waiter in a restaurent.
 
I feel he should not be insulted like this.
 
He did not succeed as a singer and many more other singers did not too.
 
Sabke takdeer main success nahi hota.
 
 
 
I think he was just joking. Dekha nahin kitni baar zubaan nikal kar Tongue chipkaya hua hai. 

sometimes is very hard to tell on the net what people mean LOL
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Posted: 22 December 2010 at 1:43pm | IP Logged
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I honestly don't think anything was worse this year than what we've witnessed in the past. We all seem to forget Himesh's constant nagging, his stupid catch phrases, and his arguing. Others may find that entertaining, but I beg to differ. What kind of reasonable comments are we missing this season?
Remember  a time when the mentors themselves used to get
competitive near the finals because they wanted their OWN gharana to win, and not the most deserving candidate? They would badmouth other contestants just to put their own over. 
I'm awestruck from seeing their honesty this season, especially from Sajid-Wajid. All of the mentors on the show this season were exactly what their title represents: they're MENTORS, not leaders or captains like we've seen in the past.
 If we want to talk about drama, what about Vinit's love story? That made Bisakh's love story look like NOTHING. What about the Aneek-Sumedha-Amanat love triangle... I'm sure Sumedha's parents were very pleased after seeing what the Zee creative team was insinuating regarding their daughter. A love triangle... please.
 
 Basanti vs a love triangle.. would you rather be Rini's parents or Sumedha's parents?
Oh you don't think the final three contestants were chosen by the people? That's news to me, because I remember when Hemachandra, Vinit and Himani all threatened to leave the show
when Debojit had the highest votes one week. There was more drama that night than there was in this entire season. The show had to kick out either himani or hemachandra as they were BOTH in Aadesh Shrivastav's gharana.
 Guess what, the final three that season were ALL from 3 different gharanas.
Yet again another case of selective amnesia.
 
Excellent post.
 
Confused Yeah I am sure Rini parents would much rather have their daughter being married on the stage like she was.........Tongue
 
You've already mentioned this in the thread, there's no need to repeat it.
 
Tongue But some people still don't get it.......People are saying this season was not as dramatic  as previous season, and I've listed instances that only happened in this season and not any other........So how does that make this season less dramatic? do low ratings of the show not mean anything......can we blindly keep calling this the best season despite all evidence to the contrary
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Undoubtedly you've imbibed this belief from Himesh that people will respond better to anything the more you repeat it, whether in songs, comments or posts. Take that as a compliment.
 
AkhMastani didn't say there was NO drama this season. S/he said that it was NO WORSE than what we've seen before in SRGMP. So by saying 'this season also has drama' you are not proving AkhMastani wrong. I find judge's fights and walk outs and standoffs the more offputting sort of drama. Maybe you find fake weddings etc more annoying. I think non acrimonious scripted drama like that is the lesser of two devils.
 
I am not interested in TRPs because they have a very weak correlation with musical content in my experience. Plus to single out one factor as the cause for low ratings is very crude anyway. Nowhere in AkhMastani's post does it say that this was the best season, and I don't think it was either. So I am not blindly calling it the best season.
 
 
Tongue Did you feel that this season was a better season then C 05 and C 07? And if so, please tell me why besides the drama angle cause both seasons had their cheap share of drama......Tongue Bisakh's love story, Rini's basanti, Rini's marriage, Sajid And Wajid having their have with the female contestatns, Paaji snatching mics away from contestatns, Body building and wrestling contests on stage........Tongue Is that not enough drama for the season? People are so mad about what happened to Sumedha with her love story, well what bout Rini? the poor girl was married on stage for god's sakes.........Tongue Is saying tumhare ghar mein roti ho worst then hearing rab rakha and chak de fatte after every single performance, good or bad? is walkouts of the show more disturbing then male mentors taking advantage of female contesgtatns?Tongue
 
I am sorry I am not the right person to answer this because I haven't seen either season fully. As you know, I think the best seasons were the ones with Sonu Nigam because they were designed more as a musical competition and not mass entertainment.
 
Why do you want me to tell you 'why besides the drama angle' and then ask me to choose between the gimmicks from the seasons? Do you or do you not want to talk about drama? Since you have not made this clear, I will talk about drama. There was lots of drama in this season, as there was in other seasons. But the drama in this season (which includes Rini's marriage and the judges' interruptions as well as mentors hugging people) did not annoy me as much as the drama in the previous seasons because those seasons were full of fighting and angry shouting. 'Chak de phatte' is a common Punjabi exclamation shouted after a good performance. 'Roti' is an Indian flatbread that has nothing to do with the performing arts.
 
Other things this season had over the previous seasons include a better designed set, no use of 'history' to describe performances, and a very knowledgeable judges' panel. But I don't want to take away from the good contestants and judges of previous seasons who gave us memorable performances too, as did many contestants this season.
In my opinion, as far as singing goes then it's pretty neck to neck, except C 09. I didn't enjoy that season one bit, and it was only because of the singing. As far as singing goes, this season and C 05 stick out the most. There's some great talent on both shows. I also love the fact that a less popular form of music was kept alive and given to the public to enjoy from a great talent in Ranjeet. I liked the format from C 05 with 2 judges each week, as it meant the mentors couldn't be biased.
For the same reason, I thought this show would have many fights with the mentors giving marks and eliminating contestants, but thankfully they were all very honest and weren't just looking out for themselves but all singers, whether they were from they're own gharana or not.
Had the C 05 mentors been given this format, there would've been more fights and hell would've broken lose... But at the same time, that show would've MUCH more popular with the added drama.
What was done with Rini wasn't right, but it was done with her consent. She was very happy to take part in mocking our culture. What was done with Sumedha was done by the producers of the show and script writers. She wasn't watching the show, how would she know that her expressions for one thing would be shown for something else?
Here's where I disagree with Ankit. Saying tumhare ghar mein roti ho is worse than saying Rab rakha... One is wishing for God to take care of you, whereas the other statement is saying that I'll be the one to take care of you, which as I mentioned before was nothing more than a broken promise. I've listed all the contestants that were given these promises, but I have yet to hear about those contestants that were given empty promises by SW and VS that Ankit has insisted have taken place. Only Ankit knows these instances and he doesn't tell me.Cry
 No doubt there has always been drama, but when the drama leaves it's intentions for entertainment (not saying what was done with Rini was entertaining, but that's what was intented)and starts affecting the judgements on the show, that's when it get's out of hand. If you saw C 05 then you know what I mean. That's why the drama this season has been taken more lightly. This light drama that had no affect on the judgement on the show and caused no tension between mentors and contestants explains the low TRP's.Smile

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Posted: 22 December 2010 at 2:28pm | IP Logged
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Ah I love to read the arguments between Ankit Bhai and Hakka ji n Akh ji etc. Find plenty of humor therein. Sorry if I take it lightly but Pl carry on.
LOL
Ankit ji n the MID was entertainingLOL


Big smileArey summerbhai I love the discussions as well........I am just waiting for someone to say that this season was more classy then the seasons from Sonu Nigham era.........Tongueratings hein nahin, judges' behavior was clownish at best this season, and chale hein season ko one of the best kehne.........TongueIf that's the case Zee will surely keep this panel intact for next season.......give us more drama by having hte contestant getting divorced on stage or delievering a baby on stage........I mean they have already mocked the institution of marriage so it would't surprise me if they exploited the institution of motherhood on stage as well.........maybe Zee will put female contestants right next to Sajid Wajid as well............and maybe they'll just have Paaji perform chaiya chaiya the whole episode..........Big smileI just wonder if Daler Paaji, Sajid wajid, and Vishal shekar would like their daugthers treated the way each of them has treated the female contestatns on the show............ConfusedWon't see Paaji's daughter being married on stage like Rini was.......paaji will be the first to stand up and speak
out, but when it's someone else why would he bother......Confused

Hey Ram you guys are eloquent LOL
yes this year the Mentors too are showcasing their drama, singing and dancing skills. I am still surpized a singer like Sugandha is now walking bare-footed and lost. Ah it is Kali Yug so expected I guess.
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Posted: 22 December 2010 at 10:25pm | IP Logged
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Saregamapa has been evolving since start of voting in 2005. 2005 saregamapa  was a big hit and trp's of the show were sky high. The director of the show changed. Gajendra Singh went to Star plus. The later shows have not seen the trp's of 2005. There has been so many musical  and dance shows which have sprung up since than that the attention of people has been scattered which may be one of the reasons for the low trp's after that.
 
People were so much attached to singers of 2005 which has not been seen in any other show after that. The intensity of that show was incredible. The fans will fight like crazy about their favorites. Later people have been more wise and realise that the show is mainly a drama and they have not been taking the show so seriously. We have not seen regional fights like they had been in 2005. People seems to believe in the drama at that time but have been mocking it now.
 
Himesh, Aadesh,  Ismail have very intense personalities and they will create lot of fights. Himesh at that time was suffereing from his credibility as a singer and was always very angry but have got the success later and has calmed down. Other MD mentors were suffering from no work. But the current MD mentors seems to be the most  'happening" MD's and are the most successful. They are taking things easy. They are praising each other's contestants which was not so common before. There is less intensity, competitiveness shown by mentors that my singer/gharana should win. It was very obvious in previous mentors.
 
People are used to intense drama  and the current drama do not excite them any more. The singing by the contestants have gone down and more than that we are  not seeing  the singers with personalities to build a huge fan base. Hope saregamapa will come up with some magic next year to revive viewers interest.
 
 
 
you're saying this season had less drama? did you miss Rini's wedding on stage, and the mockery of the institution of marriage on stage.......did you miss Sajid Wajid taking advantage of female contestatns by huggin them every other second? did you miss paaji acting like a contestatns and trying to showcase his talents over the contestants...............Paaji can sing better then the contestants, I mean we all knew that........I thought he was there to judge, not just to say Chak De Fatte and Rab Rakhaa........Smile the ratings for C 07 and C 05 reflect that quality always wins over audiences..........People at large don't like these cheap dramas and that's why they tuned away from this season in droves.........the lowest rated season in history of the show, and the most dramatic season as well........Smile
 
Actually I really missed the drama you are mentioning.
 
 But as far as Chak de Fatey and rab Rakha
 
Chak de Fattey is of two kind
 
First one is real one i.e Chak de Fattey Thumbs Up which means do a good job, or you did a good job
 
Second one is  Chak de FatteyWink which means the opposite of first one.
 
I wonder what Phaji is implying by chak de Fattey (first kind or second kind)LOL
 
For second one you definitely need Rab RakhaLOL
 
According to the trp's Chak de Fattey seems to be the second kindBig smile.
 
But seriously, intensity of the drama during C2005 was too much. It was like a war is going on. States of Assam had pushed it state machinery to get votes for Debojit.
 
As far as marriage,First Zee married this little boy with  Priyanka Chopra and now did this drama of marrying a young woman. I thought the marrying of little boy was even worse as there was no consent involved. Who knows How it is going to affect the little boy's development.
 
But consumers are now more smart and they have lot of choice.Hopefully Zee will bring some sanity to the show and at the same time make it more interesting.  

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Posted: 23 December 2010 at 1:52am | IP Logged
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Originally posted by AkhMastani

I honestly don't think anything wasworse this year than what we've witnessed in the past. We all seem to forget Himesh's constant nagging, his stupid catch phrases, and his arguing. Others may find that entertaining, but I beg to differ. What kind of reasonable comments are we missing this season?
Remember a time when the mentors themselves used to get
competitive near the finals because they wanted their OWN gharana to win, and not the most deserving candidate? They would badmouth other contestants just toput their own over.
I'm awestruckfrom seeing their honesty this season, especially from Sajid-Wajid.All of the mentors on the shoW*His season were exactly what their title represents: they're MENTORS, not leaders or captains like we've seen in the past.
If we want to talk about drama, what about Vinit's love story? That made Bisakh's love story look like NOTHING. What about the Aneek-Sumedha-Amanat love triangle... I'm sure Sumedha's parents were very pleased after seeing what the Zee creative team was insinuating regarding their daughter. A love triangle... please.
Basanti vs a love triangle.. would you rather be Rini's parents or Sumedha's parents?

Oh you don't think the final three contestants were chosen by the people? That's news to me, because I remember when Hemachandra, Vinit and Himani all threatened to leave the show
when Debojit had the highest votes one week. There was more drama that night than there was in this entire season.The show had to kickout either himani or hemachandra as they were BOTH in Aadesh Shrivastav's gharana.

Guess what, the final three that season were ALL from 3 different gharanas.
Yet again another case of selective amnesia.

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Excellent post.


ConfusedYeah I am sure Rini parents would much rather have their daughter being married on the stage like she was.........Tongue


You've already mentioned this in the thread, there's no need to repeat it.


TongueBut some people still don't get it.......People are saying this season was not as dramatic as previous season, and I've listed instances that only happened in this season and not any other........So how does that make this season less dramatic? do low ratings of the show not mean anything......can we blindly keep calling this the best season despite all evidence to the contrary

Tongue



Undoubtedly you've imbibed this belief from Himesh that people will respond better to anything the more you repeat it, whether in songs, comments or posts. Take that as a compliment.


AkhMastani didn't say there was NO drama this season. S/he said that it was NO WORSE than what we've seen before in SRGMP. So by saying 'this season also has drama' you are not proving AkhMastani wrong. I find judge's fights and walk outs and standoffs the more offputting sort of drama. Maybe you find fake weddings etc more annoying. I think non acrimonious scripted drama like that is the lesser of two devils.


I am not interested in TRPs because they have a very weak correlation with musical content in my experience. Plus to single out one factor as the cause for low ratings is very crude anyway. Nowhere in AkhMastani's post does it say that this was the best season, and I don't think it was either. So I am not blindly calling it the best season.



TongueDid you feel that this season was a better season then C 05 and C 07? And if so, please tell me why besides the drama angle cause both seasons had their cheap share of drama......TongueBisakh's love story, Rini's basanti, Rini's marriage, Sajid And Wajid having their have with the female contestatns, Paaji snatching mics away from contestatns, Body building and wrestling contests on stage........TongueIs that not enough drama for the season? People are so mad about what happened to Sumedha with her love story, well what bout Rini? the poor girl was married on stage for god's sakes.........TongueIs saying tumhare ghar mein roti ho worst then hearing rab rakha and chak de fatte after every single performance, good or bad? is walkouts of the show more disturbing then male mentors taking advantage of female contesgtatns?Tongue


I am sorry I am not the right person to answer this because I haven't seen either season fully. As you know, I think the best seasons were the ones with Sonu Nigam because they were designed more as a musical competition and not mass entertainment.


Why do you want me to tell you 'why besides the drama angle' and then ask me to choose between the gimmicks from the seasons? Do you or do you not want to talk about drama? Since you have not made this clear, I will talk about drama. There was lots of drama in this season, as there was in other seasons. But the drama in this season (which includes Rini's marriage and the judges' interruptions as well as mentors hugging people) did not annoy me as much as the drama in the previous seasons because those seasons were full of fighting and angry shouting. 'Chak de phatte' is a common Punjabi exclamation shouted after a good performance. 'Roti' is an Indian flatbread that has nothing to do with the performing arts.


Other things this season had over the previous seasons include a better designed set, no use of 'history' to describe performances, and a very knowledgeable judges' panel. But I don't want to take away from the goodcontestants and judges of previous seasons who gave us memorable performances too, as did many contestants this season.



<div>In my opinion, as far as singing goes then it's pretty neck to neck, except C 09. I didn't enjoy that season one bit, and it was only because of the singing. As far as singing goes, this season and C 05 stick out the most. There's some great talent on both shows. I also love the fact that a less popular form of music was kept alive and given to the public to enjoy from a great talent in Ranjeet. I liked the format from C 05 with 2 judges each week, as it meant the mentors couldn't be biased.

For the same reason, I thought this show would have many fights with the mentors giving marks and eliminating contestants, but thankfully they were all very honest and weren't just looking out for themselves but all singers, whether they were from they're own gharana or not.

Had the C 05 mentors been given this format, there would've been more fights and hell would've broken lose... But at the same time, that show would've MUCH more popular with the added drama.

What was done with Rini wasn't right, but it was done with her consent. She was very happy to take part in mocking our culture. What was done with Sumedha was done by the producers of the show and script writers. She wasn't watching the show, how would she know that her expressions for one thing would be shown for something else?

Here's where I disagree with Ankit. Saying tumhare ghar mein roti ho is worse than saying Rab rakha... One is wishing for God to take care of you, whereas the otherstatement is saying that I'll be the one to take care of you, which as I mentioned before wasnothing more than a broken promise. I've listed all the contestantsthat were given these promises, but I have yet to hear about those contestants that were given empty promises by SW and VS that Ankit has insisted have taken place. Only Ankit knows these instances and he doesn't tell me.Cry

No doubt there has always been drama, but when the drama leaves it's intentions for entertainment(not saying what was done with Rini was entertaining, but that's what was intented)and starts affecting the judgements on the show, that's when it get's out of hand.If you saw C 05 then you know what I mean.That's why the drama this season has been taken more lightly. This light drama that had no affect on the judgement on the show and caused no tension between mentors and contestants explains the low TRP's.Smile


Can I add that there could be reasons for the low ratings other than low drama. Certainly, I agree that less drama-filled reality shows are likely to get low ratings. Controversial shows on the other hand can keep the viewers hooked. I would have thought that was common sense.

But besides this drama factor, we are also forgetting that 2010 saw three other big musical TV shows - Music Ka Maha Muqabla, Indian Idol 5 and Chhote Ustaad. Now with so much reality musical entertainment, people might get bored of the genre and might not want to see a show like SRGMP. In comparison with those shows which had stars like Sonu, Shaan, Shreya, Sunidhi, Shankar, Rahat and Himesh, this SRGMP was decidedly lacklustre, what with the lack of it's crowd pulling mascots like Aditya Narayan and Himesh. Plus, the show arrived straight after a very successful season of Indian Idol and was aired concurrent to a very successful season of Chhote Ustaad.

So, ratings wise this season was fighting a losing battle because of all the competition around and the radical overhaul of it's own format/crew which robbed it of its USPs. Admittedly, the judges probably didn't do the show any favours by constantly and irritatingly interrupting contestants.

And all those factors are probably still just a tip of the iceberg. But clearly, saying that TRPs are correlated to quality of the show is ridiculously simplistic.

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