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Posted: 19 December 2010 at 2:00am | IP Logged
i accept that vtever  veena doing in ds show is not bad , in earlier seasons many persons hv done ds nasty.
 

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Posted: 19 December 2010 at 2:08am | IP Logged
Originally posted by missangel234

Originally posted by sweet_angel27

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Originally posted by sweet_angel27

Originally posted by stranger11

Originally posted by sweet_angel27

Originally posted by Rapier

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[QUOTE=kuttabhai]
If there was a male contestant from Pak doing the same stuff as veena on the show .............will he be still threat to Islam ?? Why are women always target on such acts ? male dominated society ? Confused

lol, cause in Islam males have more rights then women.


yes, but the question is why?!


I have studied alot abt different religions..and would really like to know who told u that in islam males have more rights than women???

I'm muslim one, and two let me just give you a quick example. I'm not sure if you're muslim or not, but when we pray women are not allowed to lead prayer only men are. This is just one small  example. This is an entertainment forum and not a religious one, so I wouldn't like to argue with you on this too much. Sorry if I"m wrong, but I don't really wanna argue.


I just want  to clear your point on the prayer issue. Im not the most knoweldgable person about islam but the reason women pray behind men is because of men. Men are created with uncontrolable desires an no matter how pious they are, they're still men.
So if a women is praying in front of a man, the man will look at her back and stare for sure, which in return will cause him to have bad thought. Reason: he'll be away from God, which is the opposite for the reason your praying. This is to keep the women safe. Hope this clears you misunderstandings...

 The media is just a little biased LOL.  and no hurt intended and i do not want to argue either. :)\

And Veena is NOT A THREAT. Wrong vocab used here, maybe just a bad example of a muslim

thanks, but do you think women and men have equal rights in islam?


yes, i believe they are in many ways. first, from a muslims POV, the first women was created from a man's side. Not his shoe or his head but from the side, as equals. It's our society and cultures  that degrade women, infact islam prohibits how many cultures treat women. In many countries whether they be islamic or nonislamic, women are treated as just object so why target islam.
Equality is different from identical. The fact is that islam gives a women equal rights not identical. No one is born identical, whether it be man or woman but they are born as equals. The statuses are set by people themselves.
In islam women are not a product to be branded but rather a jewel to be kept safe and secure from wordly harm. It's just people with the wrong teaching and extremists that portray the wrong message.

I could go on explaining this but i don't think this is the right forum. I hope this helped though :)

aww, thanks for explaining this clearly, seems like I could learn a lot from you. Sorry I just said whatever based off of what I basically learned all my life. I've always been taught that women aren't equal.
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Posted: 19 December 2010 at 2:12am | IP Logged
Originally posted by sweet_angel27

Originally posted by missangel234

Originally posted by sweet_angel27

Originally posted by missangel234

Originally posted by sweet_angel27

Originally posted by stranger11

Originally posted by sweet_angel27

Originally posted by Rapier

Originally posted by sweet_angel27

[QUOTE=kuttabhai]
If there was a male contestant from Pak doing the same stuff as veena on the show .............will he be still threat to Islam ?? Why are women always target on such acts ? male dominated society ? Confused

lol, cause in Islam males have more rights then women.


yes, but the question is why?!


I have studied alot abt different religions..and would really like to know who told u that in islam males have more rights than women???

I'm muslim one, and two let me just give you a quick example. I'm not sure if you're muslim or not, but when we pray women are not allowed to lead prayer only men are. This is just one small  example. This is an entertainment forum and not a religious one, so I wouldn't like to argue with you on this too much. Sorry if I"m wrong, but I don't really wanna argue.


I just want  to clear your point on the prayer issue. Im not the most knoweldgable person about islam but the reason women pray behind men is because of men. Men are created with uncontrolable desires an no matter how pious they are, they're still men.
So if a women is praying in front of a man, the man will look at her back and stare for sure, which in return will cause him to have bad thought. Reason: he'll be away from God, which is the opposite for the reason your praying. This is to keep the women safe. Hope this clears you misunderstandings...

 The media is just a little biased LOL.  and no hurt intended and i do not want to argue either. :)\

And Veena is NOT A THREAT. Wrong vocab used here, maybe just a bad example of a muslim

thanks, but do you think women and men have equal rights in islam?


yes, i believe they are in many ways. first, from a muslims POV, the first women was created from a man's side. Not his shoe or his head but from the side, as equals. It's our society and cultures  that degrade women, infact islam prohibits how many cultures treat women. In many countries whether they be islamic or nonislamic, women are treated as just object so why target islam.
Equality is different from identical. The fact is that islam gives a women equal rights not identical. No one is born identical, whether it be man or woman but they are born as equals. The statuses are set by people themselves.
In islam women are not a product to be branded but rather a jewel to be kept safe and secure from wordly harm. It's just people with the wrong teaching and extremists that portray the wrong message.

I could go on explaining this but i don't think this is the right forum. I hope this helped though :)

aww, thanks for explaining this clearly, seems like I could learn a lot from you. Sorry I just said whatever based off of what I basically learned all my life. I've always been taught that women aren't equal.


no it's not your fault...its the media LOL, well im happy i helped. If you have any other questions or concerns just inbox me, id be happy to answer.
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Posted: 19 December 2010 at 2:21am | IP Logged
Originally posted by forums_girl

Sad to see people not know much about Islam and yet comment about it.
I am a Muslim girl and am completely aware of my "do's and dont's".
What Veena is doing comes under "dont's" It is haram (not allowed to, against Allah) to expose your body, kiss boys etc and all other shameful tings she did, it shouldn't be called "freedom". She is going against Islam's rules.
 
Suicide bombers, terrorists and those who victimize women are too a disgrace to Islam. Thgey create a wrong impression on Islam.
 
I hope u have understood my point about her being a disgrace to Islam :)
 
Originally posted by desivalues

What do you think about suicide bombers, terrorists and those who victimize women? Why no calls of disgrace for such people? Or is it just that easy to label a simple woman who just acts and behaves with freedom?

Sad that many of the people who do such labeling are women themselves.


Originally posted by forums_girl

Veena is not a threat to Islam, just a disgrace :)
She enterd as a pak actress but she is also Muslim, so it is joined with her no matter where she goes and who she calls herself.
She is absolute disgrace to Islam, she shouldn't be calling herself a Muslim.
veena out der is nt protryng herself as a muslim women she was selectd as an actress so shex represntng herself n only herself one has no ryt to attak on her religious perspctive.or on any religion evry bdy whdr muslim or non muslim has to answer ALLAH for der own doings,
plx dnt discus religion plxx
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Posted: 19 December 2010 at 2:34am | IP Logged
Originally posted by forums_girl

Sad to see people not know much about Islam and yet comment about it.
I am a Muslim girl and am completely aware of my "do's and dont's".
What Veena is doing comes under "dont's" It is haram (not allowed to, against Allah) to expose your body, kiss boys etc and all other shameful tings she did, it shouldn't be called "freedom". She is going against Islam's rules.
 
Suicide bombers, terrorists and those who victimize women are too a disgrace to Islam. Thgey create a wrong impression on Islam.
 
I hope u have understood my point about her being a disgrace to Islam :)
 
Originally posted by desivalues

What do you think about suicide bombers, terrorists and those who victimize women? Why no calls of disgrace for such people? Or is it just that easy to label a simple woman who just acts and behaves with freedom?

Sad that many of the people who do such labeling are women themselves.


Originally posted by forums_girl

Veena is not a threat to Islam, just a disgrace :)
She enterd as a pak actress but she is also Muslim, so it is joined with her no matter where she goes and who she calls herself.
She is absolute disgrace to Islam, she shouldn't be calling herself a Muslim.
plx dnt discus religions.a humble request


Edited by sawaira - 19 December 2010 at 8:23am
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Posted: 19 December 2010 at 11:41am | IP Logged
Originally posted by missangel234

Originally posted by sweet_angel27

Originally posted by missangel234

Originally posted by sweet_angel27

Originally posted by stranger11

Originally posted by sweet_angel27

Originally posted by Rapier

Originally posted by sweet_angel27

[QUOTE=kuttabhai]
If there was a male contestant from Pak doing the same stuff as veena on the show .............will he be still threat to Islam ?? Why are women always target on such acts ? male dominated society ? Confused

lol, cause in Islam males have more rights then women.


yes, but the question is why?!


I have studied alot abt different religions..and would really like to know who told u that in islam males have more rights than women???

I'm muslim one, and two let me just give you a quick example. I'm not sure if you're muslim or not, but when we pray women are not allowed to lead prayer only men are. This is just one small  example. This is an entertainment forum and not a religious one, so I wouldn't like to argue with you on this too much. Sorry if I"m wrong, but I don't really wanna argue.


I just want  to clear your point on the prayer issue. Im not the most knoweldgable person about islam but the reason women pray behind men is because of men. Men are created with uncontrolable desires an no matter how pious they are, they're still men.
So if a women is praying in front of a man, the man will look at her back and stare for sure, which in return will cause him to have bad thought. Reason: he'll be away from God, which is the opposite for the reason your praying. This is to keep the women safe. Hope this clears you misunderstandings...

 The media is just a little biased LOL.  and no hurt intended and i do not want to argue either. :)\

And Veena is NOT A THREAT. Wrong vocab used here, maybe just a bad example of a muslim

thanks, but do you think women and men have equal rights in islam?


yes, i believe they are in many ways. first, from a muslims POV, the first women was created from a man's side. Not his shoe or his head but from the side, as equals. It's our society and cultures  that degrade women, infact islam prohibits how many cultures treat women. In many countries whether they be islamic or nonislamic, women are treated as just object so why target islam.
Equality is different from identical. The fact is that islam gives a women equal rights not identical. No one is born identical, whether it be man or woman but they are born as equals. The statuses are set by people themselves.
In islam women are not a product to be branded but rather a jewel to be kept safe and secure from wordly harm. It's just people with the wrong teaching and extremists that portray the wrong message.

I could go on explaining this but i don't think this is the right forum. I hope this helped though :)


you seem to know a whole lot about Islam so ur the probably the right person for me to ask my questions. lol. i hope u don't mind. and it is probably true that Islam does give men and women equal rights and the society just screws things up, which it does in India and other countries as well. but out of curiosity, I wanna ask you something. you mentioned that women are supposed to stand in the back for a prayer cuz they want to avert any dirty gazes. well that's a great thing cuz it secures woman. but, what fault is the woman's? i mean its not her fault that the men can't control themselves. right? why does she gotta change her ways when the fault is within the men? women can also give men dirty looks. so why isn't this prohibited. why aren't they put "side-by-side" instead one behind the other? of course, this might not be possible to put them beside each other, but i wouldn't know that. lol. so i'm just asking.
one more question, does Islam say that men can have up to 4 wives if he can treat them equally and a woman is allowed to have only one? or does society make this rule up?
and its really nice that they treat women as jewels and take care of them, but what if a woman doesn't need that? why can't they just let her be independent? why can't they let her face the world and face all the obstacles, so in the end she can become stronger and learn something. she should be able to handle things on her own in my perspective. otherwise she is weak. this is indirectly preventing her from thinking on her own accord. right? i honestly know very little about islam. if i misquoted somethign or interpreted something wrong, i ask for forgiveness. not my intention to offend anyone. i just wanted to know how it works in Islam. that's about it.

note: oh i think its best not to talk here anymore. can u just plz reply and send a PM to my inbox?


Edited by Rapier - 19 December 2010 at 11:43am

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I think guys should stop linking veena and islam. she is a muslim and she knows how to respect her religion. If she is not obeying to the fundamental of islam and God is the right person for her judgement. So, plz discuss what u watch from the episode and leave Islam away.Smile

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