Why Are Women ALWAYS Ignored!? (Page 3)

*Woh Ajnabee*

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Posted: 05 July 2010 at 1:24am | IP Logged

Originally posted by qwertyesque

Originally posted by *Woh Ajnabee*

POH, where art thou? We need to get working on that study ... seriously this time! The world needs us. LOL

I absolutely never feel ignored. And especially not because of my gender. In fact, if nothing else, being a part of the female sex will help you get attention. LOL

There was a time where you could argue that the female voice has been suppressed, but not anymore. Times are changing, society has progressed and women are just as important as males even in this patriarchal society. Does that mean that you will never face any gender discrimination? Not at all. But to make yourself believe that your voice isn't heard is also not logical on your part.

You can change this by stop feeling sorry for yourself, accept the realities of the world, and empower yourself to live a life with your head held high. Being a woman does not make you weak, it is feeling sorry for yourself because you're a woman that makes you weak.

Empty peppy talk is not good.. dont forget she started this topic because she sensed this.. and I would trust her senses more thanyour beliefs.. not to say that it should be the way she saw it.. but if something exists it does until it is removed..

My words were not a pep talk at all. I have never denied that we live in a patriarchal society, where men do stand first and foremost in line. If this girl lives in a place/community/family/school/society that compels her to believe that woman are second-class citizens, I am just trying to tell her that the rest of the world is not like that.

Personally, I have never been "ignored" because of my gender or discriminated against whether it be in school, workplace, family, community, or society. And that is not my belief, its my reality. May not be same as anyone else's, but when is it ever?

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Posted: 05 July 2010 at 1:26am | IP Logged

Originally posted by *Woh Ajnabee*

Originally posted by qwertyesque

Originally posted by *Woh Ajnabee*

POH, where art thou? We need to get working on that study ... seriously this time! The world needs us. LOL

I absolutely never feel ignored. And especially not because of my gender. In fact, if nothing else, being a part of the female sex will help you get attention. LOL

There was a time where you could argue that the female voice has been suppressed, but not anymore. Times are changing, society has progressed and women are just as important as males even in this patriarchal society. Does that mean that you will never face any gender discrimination? Not at all. But to make yourself believe that your voice isn't heard is also not logical on your part.

You can change this by stop feeling sorry for yourself, accept the realities of the world, and empower yourself to live a life with your head held high. Being a woman does not make you weak, it is feeling sorry for yourself because you're a woman that makes you weak.

Empty peppy talk is not good.. dont forget she started this topic because she sensed this.. and I would trust her senses more thanyour beliefs.. not to say that it should be the way she saw it.. but if something exists it does until it is removed..

My words were not a pep talk at all. I have never denied that we live in a patriarchal society, where men do stand first and foremost in line. If this girl lives in a place/community/family/school/society that compels her to believe that woman are second-class citizens, I am just trying to tell her that the rest of the world is not like that.

Personally, I have never been "ignored" because of my gender or discriminated against whether it be in school, workplace, family, community, or society. And that is not my belief, its my reality. May not be same as anyone else's, but when is it ever?

Agreed and I can tell you i dont remember doing that to any woman...

btw do you know whats a nishachar.....

.. you and i kind of are now.....

. so goodnight.. everybody is equal.. and thats fine... now go to bed and good night....!!

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Posted: 05 July 2010 at 1:34am | IP Logged

Originally posted by qwertyesque

Agreed and I can tell you i dont remember doing that to any woman...

btw do you know whats a nishachar..... LOL

.. you and i kind of are now..... LOL

. so goodnight.. everybody is equal.. and thats fine... now go to bed and good night....!!

I wouldn't ever expect you to either. LOL

Edit- oh, you mean we're nocturnal creatures? I've always been one. LOL

G'night!

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Originally posted by qwertyesque

Sure how many years/centuries you have to go back... !!! I can give you such names as well... and all you came up with is 8 names .... I can add living indira nooyi and j k rowling. martina navratilova... but what proprotion does that constitute... ...

Now give me names who can stand next to teh following

albert einstein,

Pablo picasso

Warren buffet

bill gates

tiger woods

Vishwanathan anand

Ramdev baba

Thomas edison

Abraham lincoln....

this can go on and on till 1000 of pages... i just selected a variety of fields and notable people there

also women have acheived exceptionally in fields non-typical to men.. so florence nightingale woiuldnt have a competition from men.. so does Mother Teresa (or any other mother) its impossble to compete with women in certain fields...

I hope you realize that the names you are coming up with are from long, long time ago. And these names do not prove anything except the fact that women were treated as second-class citizens in that era and did not have easy access to education and the workplace to go out and be the next Albert Einstein or Abraham Lincoln. This does not prove anything about female inferiority or male superiority, all it goes to prove is that society has suppressed women's rights throughout history. And that progress is now at its peak.

One example that immediately comes to mind is that of Watson and Crick who won the Nobel prize for proposing the double helix structure of the DNA molecule. Later, it was discovered, that this was actually Rosalind Franklin's discovery, but Watson and Crick took all the credit. I am sure there are numerous examples such as this one that failed to make it into history books throughout the years.

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Originally posted by SweetDesi09

Hey guys =]

If some of you may have noticed, in this worl, the male usualy matters more. The MALE voice is heard whereas the FEMALE voice is ignored. We women have a voice as well and we want it to be heard! What about our side of the story? Why does HE get the praise? Why can't we get the job just because were Female. I took a Gender Studies class in school and that is where i got this topic idea from. Don't you feel that we, women, are always ignored? What do you feel about this? How can we try to change this?

I cant help but feel sorry for the guys ! Its like damned if we do and damned if we dont , for them.

Its females like these that are responsible for the state of affairs. You pay attention to females you are charged of harassment. You ignore them then thats discrimination !

First thing I noticed is that the querry is directed to "Guys "

as if there are no girls to address the querry !

Then who is to blame for ignoring the "female voice" as you call it ?

I wonder which world are you talking about? There are hardly any jobs these days where females are denied the job only on the basis of their gender. Pilots, surgeons, prime ministers, presidents, ministers, scientists, sportsperson, astronauts, navy, army, spiritual world leaders,

artists, entrepreneurs, corporate sector - you name it girl, you will find females in every sphere !

I ve never ever felt victimised because of my gender. Never felt ignored or neglected because of it. Rather there have been certain advantages which one should not be taking an undue advantage of.

As for your question regarding how we can change the situation(your view) for starters get out of that "poor me" mode , stop whining and start working on yourself before trying to work on others or external factors. Good luck

Sorry if I sounded harsh.

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Posted: 05 July 2010 at 10:11am | IP Logged

Originally posted by *Woh Ajnabee*

Originally posted by qwertyesque

Sure how many years/centuries you have to go back... !!! I can give you such names as well... and all you came up with is 8 names .... I can add living indira nooyi and j k rowling. martina navratilova... but what proprotion does that constitute... ...

Now give me names who can stand next to teh following

albert einstein,

Pablo picasso

Warren buffet

bill gates

tiger woods

Vishwanathan anand

Ramdev baba

Thomas edison

Abraham lincoln....

this can go on and on till 1000 of pages... i just selected a variety of fields and notable people there

also women have acheived exceptionally in fields non-typical to men.. so florence nightingale woiuldnt have a competition from men.. so does Mother Teresa (or any other mother) its impossble to compete with women in certain fields...

I hope you realize that the names you are coming up with are from long, long time ago. And these names do not prove anything except the fact that women were treated as second-class citizens in that era and did not have easy access to education and the workplace to go out and be the next Albert Einstein or Abraham Lincoln. This does not prove anything about female inferiority or male superiority, all it goes to prove is that society has suppressed women's rights throughout history. And that progress is now at its peak.

One example that immediately comes to mind is that of Watson and Crick who won the Nobel prize for proposing the double helix structure of the DNA molecule. Later, it was discovered, that this was actually Rosalind Franklin's discovery, but Watson and Crick took all the credit. I am sure there are numerous examples such as this one that failed to make it into history books throughout the years.

ok...

.. btw how long would you think women have been getting education, 10 years or 20 ro 30 or...?

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