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Congrats to Cuckoo for winning the debate and to Karan and Ajnu for for being a good sport and making it a good debate.

@Sarina thanks for the mention.. I wasn't even participating with my blink and you miss post of my stand in that debate. I thought the debate kind of fizzled out when Gauri withdrew and after POH, Qwerty posted their views I jumped in as it became free for all to express their thoughts.

I also share in the opinion of others here who admire your abilities and effort in organizing and single handedly judging the contest fair and square.
I hope it is alright to write few thoughts on the course that the debate took and and its assessment and by no means meant to be a personal attack on anyone or their abilities.

- I completely agree with Qwerty that in the interest of readability and keeping the enthusiasm alive, lengthy posts should be avoided at all cost. Generally speaking people loose interest due to lack of time or boredom when the debate looses focus or goes into too much details about irrelevant stuff. e.g when debate started veering from the child's interest to parents LGBT rights etc or single mum's character assassination - it became a yawning time for me.

-Citations in informal debates are a big joke in general - no offense meant personally. They don't tell us anything we do not know already and the list can be manipulated by excluding ones that do not support the argument. In real life they hold as much interest as yesterdays newspaper.
Btw I am not sure if anyone even bothered to look at the list of citations in Karan's closing statement but upon clicking on few here is what I found.
The first 2 relate to Tribal mothers when it is clearly stated in the opening of the debate that it is a middle class single mum residing in a small city in India. Others in the list are about the civil rights of homosexuals/lesbians lifestyles mostly without much reference to the kind of adults the kids raised by such parents turn into while there is one that talks about India being the death capital.
I am not sure I agree with the judge's acclaim of best researched citations in this case.


Edited by my_view - 20 June 2010 at 9:48pm

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Thanks My_view, Middy and Meena for the congrats!! :)

@My_view: About citations being a joke, they are needed for evidence and to show that we are not talking in air. I don't get the point about informal debate. Logic alone without evidence is just based on beliefs. Moreover while writing you can cite things easily as compared to while speaking. Thus, it is recommended to cite things in a debate like this.

About the first citation -- It is clear that I am using it to highlight the irony behind the law and order plus behavior of police. I didn't use that citation elsewhere when not talking about law and order. I can explain other citations as well and you have to see them in that particular context where they are used.

Other citations are from FBI, WHO, transparency, AMA and other well known organizations. They are not from newspapers.

However, I would have preferred to see your rebuttal in that thread itself and not here, at least for my previous posts if we don't talk about the concluding post. I used a citation in my previous post as well.

I liked your points in that thread and you should have elaborated a bit.





Edited by karandel_2008 - 20 June 2010 at 10:53pm

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