Originally posted by cuckoocutter
r u saying this because WA and gauri and karandel tag-teamed on trying to undermine the qualitative arguments? (it was heart-warming to see WA trying to undermine her own side by saying emotions dont count) lol
btw, i think the guy who came first had better economic arguments than yours lol. what you got is mostly irrelevant given we are talking abt middle-class in both situations- u gotta draw comparisons n then u'd see how middle class premise itself is an equalizer since upward mobility is pretty dismal in both cases.
in additn, whatever evidence u just hinted at wld just invite counter evidence that could go on till someone dropped dead outa boredom lol. they r not killer punches. it's one chip-shot against another, the kinds we get when politicians run ads against each other, each purportedly presenting "facts". one runs into that kind of problem when there's no coherent story. also ppl aint number machines (strange i'd be saying this given my background lol).
but sure, if one side goes down the numbered lane, other side has to also. in that case, be sure that one cld have responded too. but responding to stuff one doesnt deem worthy of, that u shld not expect. :). it's also like chess, why set off on an opening when u know it wont lead anywhere. that's equivalent to the qualittative stuff that was going on abt how the kid was born, whether the mom got raped, needless distractions.
basically irrelevant evidence/ no story goes for a round 0 in my humble opinion. lol
Our side of the debate could have been argued, I felt, without bringing the whole bollywood essence of mere paas maa hai and obvious use of patriotism to win the argument. That is why I decided I'd try to keep my side of the debate void of personal emotions and stick to concrete arguments that can actually be debated.
Having said that, I had heard of sore losers, but this is the first time I've seen a sore winner. Seriously A, you won fair and square. I congratulated you, in fact, we all congratulated you. Now, I suggest you get over yourself and accept the win and call it a day. If you had any issues with what was permissible and what was expected in the debate, you should have raised these issues beforehand.
And if you really wanted to present counters to all the points brought up, you should have stayed there until the end. At this point, the ship has sailed. Standing on the shore and calling after it ain't going to do anyone any good.