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Posted: 12 March 2010 at 4:28am | IP Logged
Originally posted by axeion

Wow the 2nd CC...Congrats guys Hug
I am not sure if I would read it though, but I'll try to eavesdrop on the conversations Wink

Hamari kismat... we only found people who won't be reading...

Do keep posting though... You'll have Aladin and some others for company...

So, tell us Ekta ji: How PC is the general desi population??

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Posted: 12 March 2010 at 4:35am | IP Logged
General desi population is racist and has so many hypocrites Angry
I have come across many racists on this forum too...They are very good ppl as such, but just a bit racist though they don't mean any harm.
Coming back being PC, I don't know. U see I am not that good at analysing ppl. All I know is I have come across many weirdos Ouch

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Posted: 12 March 2010 at 7:01am | IP Logged
Sorry guys ..I disappeared ..suddenly  yesterday.
Is any one here ..Knock Knock

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Posted: 12 March 2010 at 7:22am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Veritas

Sorry guys ..I disappeared ..suddenly  yesterday.
Is any one here ..Knock Knock
Hello....Hum hain naa LOL
Hows ur health now?


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Posted: 12 March 2010 at 7:31am | IP Logged
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Originally posted by axeion

Wow the 2nd CC...Congrats guys Hug
I am not sure if I would read it though, but I'll try to eavesdrop on the conversations Wink

Hamari kismat... we only found people who won't be reading...

Do keep posting though... You'll have Aladin and some others for company...

So, tell us Ekta ji: How PC is the general desi population??



Desi's are the most offensive when it comes to racism and that doesn't just end in international level; but national, state and regional level too. Our only saving grace is that we speak languages/dialect that not understood by others. I had a Indian classmate in grad school, she thought Americans are culture less coz according to her culture was being draped in clothes, not calling professors by their names and not having live-in and she was very offensive about it. I failed to make her understand that it is part of their culture... Confused. And yes, all desis in my school used to call African-Americans 'babban log'.

Will get back later after reading a few pages
Ciao


Edited by nitz17 - 12 March 2010 at 7:34am

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Posted: 12 March 2010 at 7:35am | IP Logged
Originally posted by axeion

Originally posted by Veritas

Sorry guys ..I disappeared ..suddenly  yesterday.
Is any one here ..Knock Knock
Hello....Hum hain naa LOL
Hows ur health now?

Aww Ekta ji,how did the outing go?

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Posted: 12 March 2010 at 7:46am | IP Logged
Originally posted by nitz17

Originally posted by immunoblot

Originally posted by axeion

Wow the 2nd CC...Congrats guys Hug
I am not sure if I would read it though, but I'll try to eavesdrop on the conversations Wink

Hamari kismat... we only found people who won't be reading...

Do keep posting though... You'll have Aladin and some others for company...

So, tell us Ekta ji: How PC is the general desi population??



Desi's are the most offensive when it comes to racism and that doesn't just end in international level; but national, state and regional level too. Our only saving grace is that we speak languages/dialect that not understood by others. I had a Indian classmate in grad school, she thought Americans are culture less coz according to her culture was being draped in clothes, not calling professors by their names and not having live-in and she was very offensive about it. I failed to make her understand that it is part of their culture... Confused. And yes, all desis in my school used to call African-Americans 'babban log'.

Will get back later after reading a few pages
Ciao

Ok ..I don't  get this.
Even after traveling all this way..people still stick to these constraints and stupid notions.
And I agree Indians are the most racist not to mention castewadi too .
Until the time I was in India..I was against reservation and thought the whole idea of caste was overblown.
But now I am for reservations 100 %.
I saw casteism the first time after I came to the US.Can you believe that.
For people who have grown up in Delhi ,Bombay or other metro cities or for that matter kids of displaced parents it is not such a big deal.
But there are people who come from one state /region/language and have not had the opportunity to live and understand ,adapt  or interact  with other cultures.They stick to these notions of superiority and how their beliefs are better than others.

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Posted: 12 March 2010 at 8:02am | IP Logged
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My first question for discussion is about political correctness. The book begins with a monologue by Martin, who explains his reasons for committing suicide; and likens it to going away to Sydney. He says: "Suicide was my Sydney. And I say that with no offence to the good people of Sydney intended."

A. Do you think, people of Sydney will be offended by such a statement. I think not! (Had it been, "Suicide was my new Delhi", I would not have sufficiently enraged.)
B. Does this seem like a routine approach that you'd follow... Say something, and then suggest that no offence was intended? Is this a universal trait, or is this something typically British (which is what the book stereotypes!)
C. Would a desi protagonist do the same (care about political correctness)?
 
**Keep in mind that I have not yet read a single page of the book**  (tries to look ashamed and fails miserably)  EmbarrassedEmbarrassedLOLLOLLOL
 
A.  The idea is not offending, but it may to be to the sensitive people in Sydney.  If someone says going to heaven is like going to Sydney, it would please the people of Sydney, but if the idea is moving to hell is like going to Sydney, then it can be offending.  I expect it would differ from person to person, however, I would not be offended by such statements, because there are always good people and bad people in any country.  Another fact is that criticism usually just bounces off of me.  EmbarrassedEmbarrassedLOLLOL
 
B.  If I want to offend people, then I would generally phrase it 'if it offends someone, then so be it'.  LOLLOL  I think I am politically correct, but only to a certain degree.  Most desis are not politically correct though.  We say the meanest things, without realizing what we are actually saying and when people say the same things about us, we tend to take a lot of offense.  I'll use the example of black people.  While we use discriminatory terms for them, it's all good, but when someone generalizes us in the same way, we don't take it kindly.  However, it would be wrong on my part to only blame the desis.  I believe it is quite a universal trait.  I have come across some white folks (again a discrimatory term) who are the same way.  The most tolerant people I have found is the "black" community, believe it or not.  EmbarrassedBig smileBig smile
 
C.  I don't think a desi protagonist (in general) would care.
 
 
(If I have offended someone, then it was not my intention.)  EmbarrassedEmbarrassedWink  **pun intended** 

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