Originally posted by: return_to_hades
From what I have heard it is ambiguous whether Jesse and Celine had sex in Before Sunrise. People seem to interpret it on their perceptions. But I do agree, there is a wondrous charm to men who are willing to put their desires aside and willing to express/explore their emotional, romantic side where all you do is get to know someone.
There you are, after I watched that scene, even I wondered what they wanted to portray. It's up to your perception actually. Because you feel somehow part of it, the conclusion you draw from it is a bit of what you would have done in such a situation, or resisted doing of course! 😉
Love Actually has to be the best winter romance ever (after Kal Ho Naa Ho). Initially, I found it a bit tedious; but when everything connects again in the end at the airport - when all the loose ends are tied together you feel so warm and fuzzy. It is not over the top either, some very realistic characters. I love Keira Knightley's track where the guy just loves her. I also loved Colin Firth's track where he falls for the Portuguese woman and they cannot even communicate.
I'll have to catch it then and come back to you! For sure... There are a lot of stories where things fall in place at the end, that's when you can't help loving it all!
I have watched neither. Personally though I do not feel that you have to have experienced certain things to connect with a film. Although certain life experiences make a movie touch you deeper, it is not necessary. A movie on racial prejudice may touch white and black people differently, but a good film can speak to all audiences.
I am with you on this, but it is not about experience which surely prompted them to ask me to see it later on. Or so I believe. It's more the fact that according to her, I am perhaps yet a bit too young to understand the depth of what's going on. Because one needs to understand what a relationship means in the first place, to understand all the complications that thereby follow. I'll give it to her, perhaps she is right, because she does acknowledge how I tend to be much elder than I am in most matters, at least compared to nearly all students my age, so she wouldn't have said that unless she really meant it in the real way. And then, whether it is at 16 or 60 as I said it earlier on, everyone understands, and interprets ideas and emotions differently anyway!
Too many movies tend to show romances as one idealistic affair with fairytale endings. However, in real life people can be pulled in many directions career, differing lifestyles and also different people who touch their lives - friends, family, unrequited loves, past flames, new sparks and interests etc. It is not as idealistic or as easy as people make it out to be.
True, and too many people get right under the trap, even if it isn't one!I just feel people today need to feel that way, that life is easy and you can move on considering only that luck factor, or on the other hand, they are too cautious, about everything they do, too conscious about anything that happens, so much, that they would never allow themselves to be a Jesse or a Celine, bot because they don't want it, but because they are afraid of what comes after it!
I know White Nights is available online in text format, but I cannot find it. I found the audio version here - http://www.archive.org/details/white_nights_librivox,
Thanks! This is lovely...
When you move on after not being able to be with the one you love, you do not necessarily take someone for granted. You choose to be with them because you know you do love them and will love them. Like Naina in Kal Ho Naa Ho. She will probably never be over Aman, she will probably never love Rohit the way she loved Aman. Rohit knows that too. Neither of them is settling or taking each other for granted. They know they can make a relationship work.
I was hoping someone would mention Kal Ho Na Ho, that was the first example that came to my mind after typing down that bit! I was seriously hoping someone would mention that, and here you are! 😛
Then you can have people stuck in the infinite friend zone like the guy in the XKCD comic. You do not always have to marry or be in a relationship with the person you love. Sometimes you can just be there as a friend. You mention Kuch Kuch Hota Hain and how best friends fall in love. It depends on person to person and what sort of love they are looking for. For some people its meeting someone, feeling that spark and pursuing that, its a sense of passion and excitement. For others is being with someone familiar, you can relate to, be yourself with and be comfortable. Sometimes its a combination of both and what people want changes throughout their lives. In KKHH Rahul is searching for the spark of meeting someone, which he finds in Tina. Anjali was in love with the familiarity of Rahul and the comfort she experienced with him. However, when Tina passes away Rahul realizes that he is happy with that type of love too. Had Tina not been there he would have eventually grown into the idea. But he needed to experience life changes before his expectation of love changed.
Right, so it means the love is different? Meaning you can love "unconditionally", even though I don't like using that word, more than once in your lifetime? It means you could have more than one soul mate or one Mr./Mrs. Right? I am glad you tackled KKHH, because I meant to ask that too. Does this mean that if Tina never died, Rahul would have never felt anything for Anjali? It surely means, so this does happen. The problem is, if he felt all this before she dies, it would have been wrong, because he was married. But since his wife is deceased, it's no longer wrong, since he's somehow 'free'? Worth thinking about...
Then there are moments when you find someone you fall for after you are married. There are many more what ifs then. Can you still be friends and spend a day together like Jesse and Celine. Is spending time with that person or communicating with them cheating or is it ok as long as you do not have sex. Then again is it just a temporary infatuation, something you can get over and live with. Is it really worth pursuing, is it really worth the complications and implications. What is the better choice for your current relationship, being open and honest or dealing with your internal conflicts within yourself.
I personally would never marry someone I would want to get rid of in a year or two. Somehow, doesn't that mean you have not thought hard enough before taking a decision? Why not wait for a year at least, get to know the person, get to know if you could live with him/her, and then take any decision? But then, again comes the question of, but what if you find everything alright, and find your soul mate after marriage? That's why I said earlier a few weeks back in a post that KANK had a beautiful storyline to it, just handled badly towards the middle! When SRK says: 'Agar nahi dundhogi, to nahi milega!' when Rani asks him what if she gets true love after marriage, that one phrase says a lot. But it's human nature deep down isn't it? You never keep hoping for fairy tale endings, you never stop looking out for unrequited love, you never ever stop hoping, and when you do, you are bound to get attracted to the first thing that mildly resembles what you thought of! Whether you regret or not otherwise, that's another debate, but it sure does complicate matters with children waiting at home. The real question of this whole Mathematics of Dating actually is: How do you know when to stop? The time factor is there yes, but how do you actually know you aren't getting anyone better? Because in real life, unlike in Main Hoon Naa, neither bells are going to ring, nor are violins going to self-play... 😆😆
Ah relationships are indeed complicated. Forget the mathematics of dating, someone needs to create a logical system to follow for life and the lovely ways it can screw with you. I'm not sure I answered your questions at all. 😆
I think Life itself is one complex entity. That's why I hate it when people say life is only as difficult as you want it to be. For those wanting to go behind the usual barriers half of the Earth's boring population passes through helplessly, I don't think life is easy. But you sure decide for yourself whether you want to make it interesting or not! Smiling in problems and finding opportunities in difficulties, that's worth a try!
About answering the question, you always do Girl. And even when you don't I still love it as much, so don't worry about that! Thanks for taking time out to write that much, I loved it! 🤗 It made me think so much, something you guys out here are spoiling me at. My friends keep on complaining I should stop DM, I tend to seem 20 years elder than I am all because of internet and DM... 😆 And they just get pissed off when I simply answer: It's not about trying to be elder, it's about trying to understand so that I can enjoy life more than all of you do, or will... 😆
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