Posted: 30 October 2009 at 12:39am | IP Logged
Originally posted by return_to_hades
When it comes to the issue of gay marriage, I choose not to look at California or New England or the all these hot button states.
I have only one thing to say - Iowa. It was a time when Prop 8 was a nationwide circus and was being challenged in court, and all eyes were on California. At the same time somewhere in the heartland, things looked different. It was a conservative state, just a bit west of the Bible belt. It was a conservative senate, conservative governor and an all conservative judicial bench. There was no liberal gay rights pride propaganda bandwagon demanding change. One fine morning people woke up to find that a ten year old ban on gay marriage had been declared constitutionally illegal by the state supreme court. Gay people can now marry in Iowa.
Of course there was a bit of a scramble to get it undone. But months later in September a poll stated that 92% of Iowans said their lives had not been changed by the decision. In essence its still, good old Iowa, land of corn.
The question asked was ""This class of people asks a simple and direct question: How can a state premised on the constitutional principle of equal protection justify exclusion of a class of Iowans from civil marriage?"
And the chief justices answer was simple "It can't"
As a lot of us who live in the heartland and love it say, its not about liberalization and changing the world. Everything here is about good old fashioned midwestern sensibilities. Small towns and communities that stick by their fellow people and their values,irrespective of who they are. Maybe thats why the midwest is called the heartland. No media circus about it. Just ordinary people, living ordinary lives.
Actually there is a huge negative to this, when decisions like this are taken without proper discussion or awareness considering only legal standpoint, they do nothing but just create a superficials feeling like something good has been done without anyone actually embracing it.
Talking about Iowa, Last year when out at dinner with my client, most of them suggested they would vote for Obama, now they have a lot of reasons to hate Bush, since a lot of them had kids in armed forces, nobody liked democratic principles, but the reason most of them cited was that they didnt want to sound racist, There was a conscious effort made last year, if you dont vote for Obama, you might be a closeted racist. and the state went to Obama. I wont be surprised if the "gay marriage" thing isnt like that too If it is really from their heart nothing like it, but I doubt it.
Similarly, In India earlier this year they decriminalized homosexual relationships in the courts, everywhere there was a big backpating, but if you look around, nothing has changed. There is still the mindset about Gays that is illustrated in the movie "Philadelphia". The change has to come from heart, from well thought out thinking. It cant be like ok, a judge ruled, and now we think it is acceptable. especially in a conservative nation like India.
The reason I cited both these examples was just Iowa and India are very similar in their religious conservativeness
sorry for the detour
Edited by chal_phek_mat - 30 October 2009 at 12:43am