Originally posted by chal_phek_mat
Coming to the debate, If you were to assume, Kauravas won the war in Mahabharata, Duryodhan and Karna would have been heroes instead of Arjun and Krishna. Actually if you were to ignore that Krishna was a incarnation of Lord Vishnu and Pandavas won and if you compare the character of Krishna to that of Karna. Karna comes out better. Talking about ethics etc. There were equal number of unethical actions against the Kaurvas as much as the Kaurvas committed. But still the Kauravas are villified. Huge lesson that comes out of Mahabharata is the winner ends up writing the history and everything you do gets justified by some means or other. So concentrate on winning the battle,
No one "won" the way, regardless of what you think. The Kauravas did not "win" because they were on the side of Adharma (who in their right 'heroic' mind tries to disrobe a menstruating woman? And who sticks up for them?), and the Pandavas did not "win" because they lost every one of their relatives, and regardless of getting the throne, too much blood on both sides had been shed. How can that be called winning?
The point of the Kurukshetra War was not to determine who "won", but that the evil ones died. There were "not so innocent" warriors on the Pandavas' side too, like Dhristadyumna and Drupada along with others. Krishna told Arjuna in the Bhagawad Gita that those who were paapis would be annihalated, and that other innocents, like Abhimanyu, Ghatotkacha, and Draupadi's five sons, would die as well.
Whether the Pandavas were heroes or not, Duryodhana and Karna definitely were not. Krishna is the biggest Hero of Mahabharat, even if you leave aside the fact that he is the avatar of Lord Vishnu. As for comparing Karna and Krishna....Karna came up with the idea of Dushashana disrobing Draupadi despite knowing it was her "time of month" and Krishna provided her with the endless amount of sari and saved her honor. Who's the hero?
I am not denying that Karna was a great daanveer and an overall much better character than the Kauravas, but his telling Dushadhana to disrobe Draupadi greatly decreased his "hero-ness" in my eyes. Only a woman can understand the pain and humiliation Draupadi went through when she, being merely draped in a menstruation-caused soiled cloth, was dragged to the sabha where half the men looked at her with lusty eyes and her husbands offered no protection, as well as the weakling of a King himself. Leave aside the fact that she married five men. How anyone can call Karna a hero over Krishna after what he nearly caused to Draupadi surprises me.
You interpreted the Gita in a totally wrong way, but if that's how you interpreted it, then fine. But for me, the main message of the war is that Where there is Dharma, there is God, and where there is God, there is Victory. Where there is no Dharma, or if someone (like Karna, Bhishma, and Dronacharya) supports Adharma, God will never be on that side regardless of the number of good deeds he did previously, because supporting Adharma erases the good deeds we do.
The ultimate message of Gita is to support God, not a particular side. Support God, Believe in God, and Surrender to God, and victory will be on your side, regardless of the strength or prowess of the other side. The only duty every one has is duty towards God.
Will post some examples from the Gita explaining a person's duty.
Jai Shree Krishna!