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Posted: 06 October 2009 at 7:56pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by crazy_sunny

so is a microbe aware of being alive or not Confused


yeah but u may not know about that consciousness.. unless u r a microbeLOL

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Posted: 07 October 2009 at 12:23am | IP Logged
Originally posted by qwertyesque

Originally posted by crazy_sunny

so is a microbe aware of being alive or not Confused


yeah but u may not know about that consciousness.. unless u r a microbeLOL
 
I think that consciousness is one but egos separate us.
So if you want to separate yourself from the crowd, keep fuelling your ego.LOL

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Before I post my response to Sarina's reply, I want to share this article:




The 6 Most Sadistic Dishes From Around The World

Most of you love a good steak or some fried chicken or, hell, both at the same time. And it's no secret that the life of an animal headed for the slaughterhouse isn't all smiles and happy songs.

But sometimes you run across a dish that requires that the animal not only be killed, but tortured in some horrifying and diabolical way first. Below are the dishes that prove that sometimes, cruelty can be delicious.

WARNING: Some disturbing images, particularly at #1.

#6.Ikizukuri

Origin: Japan

What's so Bad About it?

Imagine you are in Japan. You want to make the best of the situation and experience some authentic Japanese cuisine, because your search for a middle school girl with D-cup breasts to spank you with a Hello Kitty paddle has proven fruitless so far.

You walk in to a sushi place and order the first thing that sounds appetizing. "Oh," you say to yourself, "Ikizukuri. What an appetizing jumble of Japanese sounding syllables." And just then, a scene of pure unspeakable horror unveils before your terrified eyes as the cook grabs a fish out of a tank and starts slicing it up while it flops around on the cutting board in front of you. Then he throws it on your plate, the fish still twitching and knocking around your side dishes.

Wait, What?

"Ikizukuri" literally means "prepared alive" and it delivers on everything the name implies and explicitly states:

You can even choose your own fish for the kill, so if you're an asshole you can go for the one which seems happiest at the moment. The chef will then use his Matrix skills to partially gut and cut it up in mere seconds and serve it you. The trick here? He must cut the fish without killing it. With its heart exposed and beating, gills still working, trying to gasp for air and those last few seconds of pain-filled consciousness, staring at you with its slowly dying eyes which ask you in a fainting tone... "Why... . why... wh... y... w," your fish is ready for eating.


Pictured: A licensed Ikizukuri chef.

It Gets Worse:

Often the chef will take the pieces he cut from the fish and "reassemble" them, like some nightmarish jigsaw puzzle. It might be considered quite spectacular from a culinary point of view, but thinking of it as some form of sick joke to taunt the fish is much more rewarding.

For an equally horrifying variation, the Chinese have Yin Yang Fish, which involves dipping the living fish into oil and frying it alive, but again just enough that it is still living right up until you plunge your fork into its terrified little face.

#5.Ortolan

Origin:

France

What's so Bad About it?

An ortolan bird is about six inches long and weighs just four ounces. It's olive green and yellow, with a touch of ruby here and there. Most people who look at them immediately want to keep ortolans as pets and give them funny un-bird like names, such as Jerry or Ginger.


Hello, Ginger!

Others want to torture and drown them for gluttonous needs of gourmets everywhere.

Wait, What?

The recipe for ortolan is this: Capture the bird in the wild, blind it using a pair of pincers, stick it in a tight cage so it can't move, keep it on a diet of millet, grapes and figs until it reaches two to four times its normal size, and then drown it in a snifter of Armagnac. We are still undecided if the last part makes this whole dish gruesome or totally f**king sweet.

It Gets Worse:

The secret to enjoying Ortolan is in the way you eat it. After roasting the bird for six to eight minutes, you cover your face with a napkin, place the whole bird inside your mouth, with only it's head and beak sticking out... and bite down.

The head falls into the napkin, while you slowly bite through Jerry's tiny bones, tiny muscles and even tinier innards. The finale comes when you bite through its lungs and stomach, releasing pockets of brandy into your mouth.

The covering your face with a napkin part is said to have been started by a priest, Jean Anthelme Brillat-Savarin, who did it to hide his gluttony from God. Though we'd think it probably also kept him from getting kicked out of multiple restaurants.

#4.Foie Gras

Origin:

France

What's so Bad About it?

"Foie Gras" is a French dish meaning "fatty liver," and said liver comes from either ducks or geese. From the moment the ducks and geese are born they are allowed to frolic freely, feeding on grass as much as they want; the poultry equivalent of a life-time ticket to Disneyland. Day after day the little ducklings and goslings run around, play grab-ass and eat until they can eat no more.

Then, they are taken to a dark room, put in little fowl coffins and force fed corn with fat until their livers reach six times their normal size.


When we searched "Foie Gras," this was one of the only results that didn't make us very sad.

Wait, What?

Yes, the buttery texture of Foie Gras is achieved by sticking a long metal pipe down the bird's esophagus and pneumatically pumping a pound of a greasy corn mix directly into their digestive systems, which then gets deposited straight in their livers, thus expanding and saturating them with fat.

The birds are allowed to run around and indulge on grass when they are young, not to alleviate the farmer's guilt about what is to come, but to strengthen their esophagi so that they don't die during the food gun period, which can last two or three weeks (with two "meals" each day).


We thought if we made it a cartoon, it would look less cruel. Nope!

It Gets Worse:

You might be surprised to know that both the ducks and the geese don't take too kindly to being orally probed and force fed corn. Therefore the preferred method of keeping the birds from struggling and exercising is by sticking them in little boxes where the little buggers can't spread their wings or even stand up.

At this point the ducks/geese are taken to slaughter, presumably being insulted the whole way.

#3.Dojo Tofu

Origin:

Japan

What's so Bad About it?

Known also as Tofu Hell, Loach Hell, Pot Hell, Hell Boil (do you notice a pattern here?) and erroneously called "Baby Eel Tofu" in the West, the dish is a legendary Japanese delicacy consisting of baby Dojo loaches (small eel-like fish) and tofu. It's apparently inspired by the MTV show Punk'd. And the dark lord, Lucifer himself.

Wait, What?

Your basic recipe for Tofu Hell is easy as baby kitten pie. You start boiling some water and when it gets hot you place a block of tofu on the bottom, immediately adding the baby loaches (because f**k YOU loaches) which will try to escape being boiled alive by plunging straight into the still cold tofu.


The loaches actually still look like they're trying to escape.

And this is when Ashton Kutcher jumps out from behind and yells "we punk'd you!" because just then the baby loaches start to notice that something smells nice. Them. The tofu starts cooking and the little fish, who just a few seconds ago were certain they escaped a boiling death and rejoiced at the thought that there was still a chance they will see their parents again, are cooked alive inside it.

The final product resembles Swiss cheese to a degree. Only this time, the holes were not created via a fermentation process, but by baby loaches trying to escape a pot of boiling water, tears streaming down their little face as they fondly remember their little baby room with the ThunderCats bed-spread and the poster of TMNT on the wall.

It Gets Worse:

There is still a lot of confusion over whether the dish is real or not. We have found the below picture of the dish being prepared, but cannot determine whether or not it is an actual photo.


Reprinted below, with our admittedly rudimentary understanding of the Japanese language.


A few years back, a Japanese TV show did a segment on Tofu Hell, finding a South Korean restaurant "Konsori" which had it on the menu. Since then, loaches enjoyed a brief fame in Japan, as thousands and thousands of them were bought by people who tried to re-enact the dish themselves. Unfortunately, as it turns out, it takes extremely precise timing to make Tofu Hell work (they failed to prepare it on-air), but hey, as the old proverb goes, "If at first you don't succeed, keep boiling baby fish alive."

#2.Feng Gan Ji

Origin:

Tibet/China

What's so Bad About it?

Feng Gan Ji literally means "wind dried chicken," which sounds like a new eco-hippy marketing campaign devised by the Colonel. To prepare this dish, you basically need four things: A chicken, a sharp knife, an exceptionally well skilled chef and a heart as black and cold as the most lifeless corners of outer space.

Wait, What?

Remember that scene in The Dark Knight where it turned out the Joker sewed a bomb inside his henchman's stomach? Feng Gan Ji is quite similar to it, only instead of a bomb the chef uses marinade, spices, herbs and whatever culinary secret ingredients he might have picked up at the Lucifer Gastronomical University (located in the seventh circle of Hell). He does all that, aptly upstaging the Joker (which is a feat in itself), after cutting open the still-alive chicken, removing its intestines and sewing it back up. The chicken is then strung upside down to dry in the wind.


What? It can't even be windy in that room. This chef must be new.

It Gets Worse:

The chickens usually enjoy a few agonizing seconds of consciousness after the ordeal, dangling on the string, clucking away in the wind, screaming "For the love of God, why are you doing this to us?!" as they are forced to see hundreds of their fellow chickens subjected to the same torture. And when the bird clucks its final "cluck" the last thing it will see will be its mangled and tortured brothers and sisters. Anyone else hungry?

#1.Fresh Donkey

Origin:

China

What's so Bad About it?

First of all, let us say that there is nothing wrong with eating poopy, which by the way is the technical term for donkey meat (a huge failure on the part of the donkey meat marketing people). Donkeys are animals and therefore deemed edible. There is even a chance you have tasted some ass, since it shows up in salami. Though the thing about salami is it doesn't require you to eat the donkey while it is alive.


There has just got to be a more appropriate place to do this.

Wait, What?

You heard us. Donkey meat is quite popular in China, and as easily obtainable as pork or beef. However, a recipe for a certain delicacy made from donkey reads like an ancient torture technique.

The dish in question is known in China as Huo Jia Lu (literally "Live Donkey"). The animal has its legs tied and its body held down, while the Torture Squad, known colloquially in China as "chefs," cut its supple raw body and serve it immediately to the diners who quietly eat it among the earsplitting cries of the animal.

You have to admit though, this looks like the simplest recipe in the world. Ingredients: donkey; Preparation: eat donkey. This is what happens when you leave the recipe to a dude who hates cooking.

It Gets Worse:

There is a variation of this dish called Jiao Lu Rou ("Water Donkey Meat"), where a butcher would cut the donkey's skin and pour boiling water on its raw flesh until it was cooked. He would then take his knife and...

Ah, f**k it. We can't keep talking about this with our stuffed Eeyore sitting right here.



Source: Cracked.com

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I really don't know what to say. As the article had pointed it our pretty well, I don't think I can eat the whole day today, not even pure vegetarian foods.
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Posted: 09 October 2009 at 8:23am | IP Logged
^^Don't really find the concept of torturing before slaughtering a very nice idea but won't mind trying them either if it tastes good. Atleast it will be a new experience.

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Posted: 09 October 2009 at 11:10am | IP Logged
Originally posted by karandel_2008

Originally posted by crazy_sunny

so is a microbe aware of being alive or not Confused


This may look far fetched Wink, but I think that even an atom or an electron, or anything below, is also somewhat conscious or somewhat in the aware state. This is because every other particle senses other particles using electromagnetic and gravity fields.

Our consciousness or awareness is just on a different level.


But you don't support the fact that an atom or electron is living right? Or do you think everything is living, its just that are different levels to it?

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Posted: 09 October 2009 at 11:46am | IP Logged
come to think of it even humans have different level of consciousness. At times we seem 2 B living in altogethr diff dimensions LOL

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Posted: 09 October 2009 at 4:24pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Summer3

Originally posted by qwertyesque

Originally posted by crazy_sunny

so is a microbe aware of being alive or not Confused


yeah but u may not know about that consciousness.. unless u r a microbeLOL
 
I think that consciousness is one but egos separate us.
So if you want to separate yourself from the crowd, keep fuelling your ego.LOL


see thats the only identity we have isnt it... we dont like identifying ourselves as "humans"... we have a name and certain identity.. which forms our ego.. so there isnt much effort required... there.... ...consciousness is defferent levels of identifyin with the sorroundings.... like i think i am surrouded by gals... or i am sorrounded by sexy gals.. or I am surrounded by objects of sexual interest.. i am surriounded by someone who is sometimes a sistetr or a mother...etc etc... its just matter of how we realize our surroundings with respect to our persistence with mortality...Smile

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Posted: 09 October 2009 at 4:44pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by souro

^^Don't really find the concept of torturing before slaughtering a very nice idea but won't mind trying them either if it tastes good. Atleast it will be a new experience.


I'm personally against torturing for food. But its kind of a hypocritical stance. Lobsters, crayfish, crabs, and lots of seafood need to be steamed alive for freshness and best taste. I remember Amy Adams' Julie contemplating being a lobster killer in Julie Julia. I think I have sort of mentally formed an image that steaming seafood alive is acceptable. Moreover its an abomination to eat it itself, whats one more sin.

I'm not that adventorous with food though. Whenever they have grasshoppers, worms etc I am grossed out. Although I tried smoked eel sushi and am a fan of that smoky eel texture. I also had a sashimi platter once. The most challenging in the sashimi platter was the octopus. It was like a tentacle with the suckers still attached. I still did it. interesting chewy texture.

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