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Lets say women ought to get a certain amount of reservation. Now what happens.

When there is no reservation a person knows that they got a job on merit. When a woman gets a job, how will she know if she got it on her potential or because the company had to fill up the female reserved posts?

When posts are filled by merit, people know what they need to do to compete for promotions, raises and personal growth. If less qualified women are being given jobs to fill reserved posts, how are these women to know what is the required level of competency to grow within the company?

When a person is hired on merit, they get respect by coworkers as an equal and looked up to by their subordinates? When you know someone could potentially get a post simply due to being a certain gender or color, how can you know that they deserve the respect that comes with the post? No man woman or child respects someone who gets undue benefits.

When education and social development is the primary focus, you slowly reach out to rural backward communities. However, when you only reserve certain amount of seats - how will you reach these backward communities. Will the rural girl be allowed an opportunity by her family to even apply for the posts? Even if she does and has inner potential, will she have the educational and social backing to be competitive in comparison to urban women who may have less potential but more access to education and employment?

Why reservation? Why not an anti-discrimination law and a strong legal system that prohibits discrimination on age, religion, gender, marital status, caste, race, national origin, sexual origin or whatever. Every business and government organization should be expected to hire the most competitive and most qualified candidate. The company will face severe consequences if they discriminate against or harass any qualified woman or man?

See if you say 50% seats are to be reserved for women - a politician or corrupt official can fill the seats with their female relatives ignoring better candidates and still comply with the law. With anti-discrimination policy such nepotism is illegal. The posts will only be filled with qualified candidates - be it a man or a woman.

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Originally posted by return_to_hades


When education and social development is the primary focus, you slowly reach out to rural backward communities. However, when you only reserve certain amount of seats - how will you reach these backward communities. Will the rural girl be allowed an opportunity by her family to even apply for the posts? Even if she does and has inner potential, will she have the educational and social backing to be competitive in comparison to urban women who may have less potential but more access to education and employment?

Why reservation? Why not an anti-discrimination law and a strong legal system that prohibits discrimination on age, religion, gender, marital status, caste, race, national origin, sexual origin or whatever. Every business and government organization should be expected to hire the most competitive and most qualified candidate. The company will face severe consequences if they discriminate against or harass any qualified woman or man?


This is exactly what I was trying to say. And previous experiences with reservation shows us that ultimately it benefits only a few, the first movers who had the means to grab the opportunity.
If we succeed to educate 100% of men and women and have strong laws in place to see that no discrimination takes place, then the ratio of male and female workers will automatically become equal. And I find that method better than creating an artificial equality by forcibly taking candidates ignoring their merit just because one has to fill up the reserved seats.

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Reservation for women .Confused nooooo never ..Girls r doing fine in cosmopolitans cities .What about a deserving students .Then where will  the real  talent / deserving student go? Women r  financially independent even in villages also THE ONLY problem is in villages r about their rights and condition thats all. Sorry but im against these reservations.

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