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Same108

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Posted: 09 July 2009 at 10:51pm | IP Logged
Good idea, Khalrika! Need Mahabharata info? So join the club!
I remember, long time ago we have had very nice discussions over here:
http://www.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?t=2812
My favorite part starts from here

http://www.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?t=2812&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=840


I like how our Nakeeran re-told the war stories.
Goodness, we had it all back then! Btw, I know for sure, all Mahabharata discussions are going in circles...

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Posted: 09 July 2009 at 11:32pm | IP Logged
Thanks Same. I think I will be a bhootni though. I may come to ask questions and get clarification. U, Chandra, Vibs, Ananya, Kal, and others seem to know a lot about Dwapara Yug unlike me.

Need to get familiar with Dwapara yug! Can't become the next Jambavati otherwise! LOL

Sorry, that should read Vrisha and not Chandra...forgot.

So, why is the discussion not heating up? I need to come here and give a hard time to Vrisha, Kal, and others to get the discussions going methinks. LOL
I never give a hard time to Vibs. Dunno why! LOL
LOL

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Posted: 11 July 2009 at 11:23am | IP Logged
I had a very basic question. Did Treta Yug finish when Ramji went back to Vaikunt? When did Dwapara Yug start?

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Posted: 11 July 2009 at 12:14pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Khalrika

Thanks Same. I think I will be a bhootni though. I may come to ask questions and get clarification. U, Chandra, Vibs, Ananya, Kal, and others seem to know a lot about Dwapara Yug unlike me.

Need to get familiar with Dwapara yug! Can't become the next Jambavati otherwise! LOL

Sorry, that should read Vrisha and not Chandra...forgot.

So, why is the discussion not heating up? I need to come here and give a hard time to Vrisha, Kal, and others to get the discussions going methinks. LOL
I never give a hard time to Vibs. Dunno why! LOL
LOL


I don't know either . . .   LOL LOL LOL




Edited by Vibhishna - 11 July 2009 at 1:54pm

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Posted: 11 July 2009 at 12:15pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Khalrika

I had a very basic question. Did Treta Yug finish when Ramji went back to Vaikunt? When did Dwapara Yug start?


I remember reading that Ram's Mahaprayan marked the end of Tretha Yuga and the beginning of the Dwapar Yuga.

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Posted: 11 July 2009 at 1:20pm | IP Logged
So Kush and all his brother/cousins, as well as Angad (Vali's Angad, not just Lakshman's) were the first rulers of the Dwapar Yuga?

Likewise, would Parikshit and Vajra have been the first rulers in Kalyug?

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Posted: 11 July 2009 at 1:54pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Vrisha

So Kush and all his brother/cousins, as well as Angad (Vali's Angad, not just Lakshman's) were the first rulers of the Dwapar Yuga?

Likewise, would Parikshit and Vajra have been the first rulers in Kalyug?


Yes, that must be so.

I'm not sure of Parikshit - I remember reading that the day Parikshit died marked the end of Dwpar Yuga and the beginning of Kali Yuga.

Janamejaya may have been the first ruler of Kali Yuga. Did Vajra rule a separate kingdom or did he live along with the Pandava progeny? Dwaraka was destroyed - did the remaining Yadavas build a separate kingdom?

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Posted: 11 July 2009 at 2:31pm | IP Logged
I think Kalyug started with the submersion (is that a word?) of Dwaraka.  After Arjun had done the shradhs for Krishna, Balarama, Vasudev, Ugrasena and all the Yadavas, Vrishnis and Andhakas, he was told that 7 days from that day, the oceans would rise and submerse Dwaraka, and Kalyug would start.  So he quickly evacuated the Yadava survivors and left for Mathura.  So Kalyug didn't start w/ the end of Parikshit, but w/ the  end of Dwaraka.

Once Arjun got to Mathura (some accounts  have it as Indraprastha, but  I've read of successors to the Pandavas who moved the capital from Hastinapur to Indraprastha), he crowned Vajra as king, and left Subhadra as the caretaker/regent for him (so did the Pandavas leave Uttara to do the same for Parikshit?)

So yes, Vajra ruled the Yadavas after that.  His kingdom didn't merge w/ the Pandavas.

Exit question: when the Pandavas did the Rajasuya and Ashwamedha yagnas, what was the status of Dwaraka wrt them?  Was it a vassal, an ally or what?  In a Rajasuya yagna, the Pandavas would have exacted tribute from all rulers, including allies, but I can't imagine them asking Ugrasena (indirectly  Krishna) for  tribute.  And for the Ashwamedha yagna, I'm  guessing there was no way for the horse to get to Dwaraka, since it was an island?  Or did Yudhisthir give Krishna the honorary co-host status like he did in the Rajasuya yagna that angered Shishupala?  At any rate, what was the status of Dwaraka wrt Indraprastha in both these cases?


Edited by Vrisha - 11 July 2009 at 2:43pm

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