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Gauri_3
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So well the explanation for existence of heaven can be the existence of hell no?(at least to those who believe in both the terms)
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Let me post another qn (which i came across while reading about all this stuff) to those who do believe in god and do believe that god created evil as something which is a necessity to be experienced in life for whatever reasons !
How do we explain the death of babies at a very young age or who die when they are born? I mean they haven't experienced anything evil , have they? So, it isn't a necessity to experience evil in life no?
I'll be happy with a zero account balance in the end so I get to get born again and not face any consequences due to the misdeeds of my past life. I am not looking for moksha any time soon
so how much karma exactly did those babies have?
return_to_hades
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Yes. Here it the story.
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I strongly believe in Karma, and thus, strongly believe that with each incarnation we must bear the consequences of our actions in the past life and try to perform actions, which can clear/purify our soul. And so the process should eventually lead to liberation.
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Mindbender
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lets think about it this way. Suppose there's someone who has always been brought about in an environment where wrong choices are right. I mean , suppose he has been brought about in a terrorrist kinda environment where he has been conditioned to think "wrong" . So , what do you feel?Is he being given a fair enough opportunity to chose a relatively better option in God's book?
Secondly, suppose he choses a "relatively lesser good option" but it is correct with respect to the conditions/background in which he has been brought, so does God improve his Karma or decrease it cos afterall he has chosen a wrong option !?
_Angie_
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So well the explanation for existence of heaven can be the existence of hell no?(at least to those who believe in both the terms)
I think we create our own heaven or hell. I liked some of the explanations I read . Its actually a combination of explanations from a few books, that have got all mixed up in my mind by now. Anyway I b liv in picking & choosing as God has given us the ability to choose.
There R supposed to b different planes ( 7? not sure )or dimensions to which our soul departs after death depending on the level of evolution of the soul that it has reached at the time of death.
These higher planes have completely different laws not at all like our physical realm.
It seems that things manifest there as soon as one thinks it out. This must B creating a problem for those spirits who R not fully in control of their thoughts. That is where the physical realm like our earth comes in handy. Even on the earth it is said that our thoughts have the power of manifesting if it is intense & held for long enuf without doubts creeping in. But it takes more time in manifesting as this is supposed to B a lower plane as compared to the higher ones.
LOL I m afraid I m not very good at explaining such things. If interested U can read "An Autobiography of a Yogi by Swami Kriyanand" & The Celestine Prophecy - The 10th Insight by James Redfield. Or The last Marathon by Ruzbech Bharuch. These deal with life after death explanations .
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Let me post another qn (which i came across while reading about all this stuff) to those who do believe in god and do believe that god created evil as something which is a necessity to be experienced in life for whatever reasons !
How do we explain the death of babies at a very young age or who die when they are born? I mean they haven't experienced anything evil , have they? So, it isn't a necessity to experience evil in life no?
I'll be happy with a zero account balance in the end so I get to get born again and not face any consequences due to the misdeeds of my past life. I am not looking for moksha any time soonso how much karma exactly did those babies have?
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