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Posted: 17 June 2009 at 7:29pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by clodpolish

Originally posted by *payal_15*

actually ur rite, its not that easy to leave an addiction.
but im not talking abt someone who has an addiction to TV, im saying that if someone thinks that TV is promoting violence then it would be better for them to not watch it.

hmm

well , you mean to say that the person who feels that way shouldn't watch it, but he shouldn't go around the world shouting that other shouldn't watch it also>?

well, this topic is more like an opinion...for some people TV might effect them, but for other its just entertaintment.
so, going aroung telling ppl to stop watching it, would be like imposing your opinion.
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Posted: 17 June 2009 at 7:33pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by *payal_15*

Originally posted by clodpolish

Originally posted by *payal_15*

actually ur rite, its not that easy to leave an addiction.
but im not talking abt someone who has an addiction to TV, im saying that if someone thinks that TV is promoting violence then it would be better for them to not watch it.

hmm

well , you mean to say that the person who feels that way shouldn't watch it, but he shouldn't go around the world shouting that other shouldn't watch it also>?

well, this topic is more like an opinion...for some peopleTV might effect them, but for other its just entertaintment.
so, going aroung telling ppl to stop watching it, would be like imposing your opinion.

hmm

well, if there are hardcore facts to prove your opinion, you can at least make an effort to prove other's opinion wrong and get them to your side. That would not be imposing no?

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Posted: 17 June 2009 at 7:37pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by clodpolish

Originally posted by *payal_15*

Originally posted by clodpolish

Originally posted by *payal_15*

actually ur rite, its not that easy to leave an addiction.
but im not talking abt someone who has an addiction to TV, im saying that if someone thinks that TV is promoting violence then it would be better for them to not watch it.

hmm

well , you mean to say that the person who feels that way shouldn't watch it, but he shouldn't go around the world shouting that other shouldn't watch it also>?

well, this topic is more like an opinion...for some peopleTV might effect them, but for other its just entertaintment.
so, going aroung telling ppl to stop watching it, would be like imposing your opinion.

hmm

well, if there are hardcore facts to prove your opinion, you can at least make an effort to prove other's opinion wrong and get them to your side. That would not be imposing no?

 
well, if you do have hardcore fact, then it wouldnt hurt to provide them to the opposer and prove them worn, but that doesnt mean that the other's going to give in, they still might stick to what they believe...
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Posted: 17 June 2009 at 7:46pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by *payal_15*

well, if you do have hardcore fact, then it wouldnt hurt to provide them to the opposer and prove them worn, but that doesnt mean that the other's going to give in, they still might stick to what they believe...

yeah ofcourse !

but generally for those people who are addicted to Television, it would be very difficult for them to even accept the fact that tv can be so dangerous, They'd give one excuse or the other even before hearing the other side of the argument !

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Posted: 17 June 2009 at 7:50pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by clodpolish

Originally posted by *payal_15*

well, if you do have hardcore fact, then it wouldnt hurt to provide them to the opposer and prove them worn, but that doesnt mean that the other's going to give in, they still might stick to what they believe...

yeah ofcourse !

but generally for those people who are addicted to Television, it would be very difficult for them to even accept the fact that tv can be so dangerous, They'd give one excuse or the other even before hearing the other side of the argument !

 
yes i agree with that, no argument. Addicted ppl wouldnt even bother to listen to the other end, because theyve already made up their ming abt it.
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Posted: 17 June 2009 at 8:50pm | IP Logged
My favorite show on TV currently is Law & Order: Special Victims Unit. That makes me a cop or a rapist.

I honestly do not think TV is the cause for violence. I think upbringing and society is. In the documentary 'Bowling for Columbine' Michael Moore illustrated how children in some countries were playing video games that were deemed excessively violent in the United States, yet the rate of violence was very low.

My personal opinion on what I have observed violence is less related to entertainment habits and more related to arms culture and entitlement. People who have been raised with a sense of entitlement and individuality that society owes them something tend to be more likely to resort to violence.

For example Timothy McVeigh and the Columbine shooters all felt that they were entitled to certain privileges and rights that society was not providing and resorted to violent means to obtain them.

Most children who turned violent had parents who even though advocated non violent media, held onto some for of the idea of right to bear arms without a sense of moral responsibility of bearing arms.

In actuality most of the people whom I know who are into violent/crime shows and games are the nicest of people, while some of the milder show viewers tend to be vicious.

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Posted: 17 June 2009 at 9:03pm | IP Logged
Honestly, I don't think so. So what would be the solution then to keep kids away from violence? Ban television? Censor the shows? I think that would rebound, it would make them even more curious about it. Violence stems from a number of different issues and one of them is certainly not television.
Although, I think the quality of entertainment-based shows (as well as cartoons for kids) is decreasing day by day. Compare the movies and shows of today with something as recent as shows from 10-20 years back, one can easily how quality has gone drastically.
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Posted: 17 June 2009 at 10:00pm | IP Logged

Well, i believe that television and violence can be corelated only when the person really identifies with what (violence) is being shown on television.

As very young kids, one has a very short attention span and one doesn't really care much about content but its the speed at which pictures are moving which interest such viewers more.

As (older)teens , one tends to use his /her rationality and rarely identifies with the characters and starts doubting what is being shown in the tv more. As and when one starts putting more mental effort while watching television, mostly, the lesser and lesser one will will identify with such programmes.

However the people who come in between the above range do have a considerable attention span and at the same time don't think rationally about whats being shown (put little mental effort while watching). So i guess they might be affected to some degree at least by what violence is being shown !

Nevertheless, presently, i feel the effect of television on violence is way too overrated and those who become violent by watching television need help cos i feel its something abnormal !

Moreover though, at the same time, i am all for goody goody shows for kids !Big smile



Edited by clodpolish - 17 June 2009 at 10:04pm

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