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Posted: 10 April 2009 at 1:35pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by return_to_hades

I would like to clarify that, abortion is NOT a sin in Hinduism. The traditional concept of sin that exists in western monotheism does not exist in Hinduism. As such Hinduism is based on karma and not sin. Of course there is good and bad karma, but there is no rigid definition, it is more fluid, situational, and a complex cause effect model.

Some Hindus believe abortion is totally wrong, while others believe there are some situations where it is acceptable, even others believe in free will and choice. Depending on their belief a person may condemn abortion as a wrong act and steer a person away from abortion as a wrong act, but will not exactly deem it as sin.

Thats my perception, other Hindus may view karma and sin in a different light.
 
It says in the Hindu Vedas that to kill a fetus is one of the worst Karmas. I will hunt through the Internet and try to post the verse if I can.
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Posted: 10 April 2009 at 2:08pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by _LalithaJanaki_

Originally posted by return_to_hades

I would like to clarify that, abortion is NOT a sin in Hinduism. The traditional concept of sin that exists in western monotheism does not exist in Hinduism. As such Hinduism is based on karma and not sin. Of course there is good and bad karma, but there is no rigid definition, it is more fluid, situational, and a complex cause effect model.

Some Hindus believe abortion is totally wrong, while others believe there are some situations where it is acceptable, even others believe in free will and choice. Depending on their belief a person may condemn abortion as a wrong act and steer a person away from abortion as a wrong act, but will not exactly deem it as sin.

Thats my perception, other Hindus may view karma and sin in a different light.
 
It says in the Hindu Vedas that to kill a fetus is one of the worst Karmas. I will hunt through the Internet and try to post the verse if I can.


Bad Karma is still not sin. I know that there are vedas as well as other texts condemning it. But there is a philosophical difference in the sin concept and the karma concept. They cannot be used interchangably.
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Posted: 10 April 2009 at 2:46pm | IP Logged
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Originally posted by rongna

if the pregnancy is threatening to the mother then perhaps both the mother and the baby won't survive. isn't it better for the mother then to terminate the pregnancy. and in case of pre-marital pregnancy?? how could the father who is not legally wedded to the mother have voice and opinion upon whether to continue the pregnancy or not??? but then if a pre-marital mother is pregnant and want to abort the pregnancy then it is better for the mother not to engage in any pre-marital sexual relationship at all, or use protection such as condoms, and preventive pills and all. it is a sin in christianity, it is a sin in hinduism, in islam i'm not too sure as they believe that if i'm not mistaken that a baby is not implemented with soul till the 100th days so it is okay to terminate the pregnancy before that. however, according to my opinion i think a mother should not terminate the pregnancy if the mother's health is not jeopardizes by the pregnancy itself.
 
Agree with you; if it's harmful for the mother's health, it may be aborted, but I think a father should have a say in the abortion even if it's pre-marital, because he had a part in it too.


No, I don't think a father should have a say because it isn't his body.  It should be the woman's decision because it is the woman who is pregnant.
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Posted: 10 April 2009 at 2:56pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by apux


No, I don't think a father should have a say because it isn't his body.  It should be the woman's decision because it is the woman who is pregnant.


I don't agree with that. How is it the man's fault that he's not the one that carries the child? Although it is the woman who is impregnated, both the father and the mother play a role in the creation of the child. Why should a father be denied his right?

Now of course there are many situations where father's express negligence and irresponsibility, but does that condemn all men of behaving in such a way?

In a rush, my views on abortion later.

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Posted: 10 April 2009 at 7:12pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by *Woh Ajnabee*

Originally posted by apux


No, I don't think a father should have a say because it isn't his body.  It should be the woman's decision because it is the woman who is pregnant.


I don't agree with that. How is it the man's fault that he's not the one that carries the child? Although it is the woman who is impregnated, both the father and the mother play a role in the creation of the child. Why should a father be denied his right?

Now of course there are many situations where father's express negligence and irresponsibility, but does that condemn all men of behaving in such a way?

In a rush, my views on abortion later.
 
I agree with you. The human body was created in a way that made women carry the child instead of the man. Is that the man's fault? No. But both the man and woman have an equal role in the creation of their child, so I believe that both should have an equal say.
Just like there are irresponsible men out there, so are there irresponsible women. It's not dependent on gender.

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Posted: 10 April 2009 at 8:50pm | IP Logged
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Originally posted by apux


No, I don't think a father should have a say because it isn't his body.  It should be the woman's decision because it is the woman who is pregnant.


I don't agree with that. How is it the man's fault that he's not the one that carries the child? Although it is the woman who is impregnated, both the father and the mother play a role in the creation of the child. Why should a father be denied his right?

Now of course there are many situations where father's express negligence and irresponsibility, but does that condemn all men of behaving in such a way?

In a rush, my views on abortion later.
It entirely depends upon the situation whether the man should have a say in abortion or not. but if it is fatal to a women's health then she has the right to abortion even if the man does not agree.


Any man who does not agree to an abortion when the woman's life is in danger is unworthy of any rights, totally with you on that.

It is a given that when a woman's life is in danger - abortion is permissible, no questions asked. I truly believe that.

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