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Posted: 10 July 2009 at 4:28am | IP Logged
Originally posted by PhoeniXof_Hades

^ But I liked reading your explanation.

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Posted: 10 July 2009 at 11:14am | IP Logged
Originally posted by return_to_hades

Originally posted by PhoeniXof_Hades

^ ^

To the witch,

From the article I had read about Euthanasia [written by you] I am assuming you support euthanasia only when the other alternative for the patient is death, and that too a much more painful one, and unnecessarily making the patient live would mean a waste of both country and persona resources? And finally, that the patient is not 'killed', but to 'let die', i.e. like taking off the supports like oxygen and stuffs that are given to the patient (that i using an unnatural mean to make the patient live, and something that would have been next to impossible even a century before), contrary to injecting lithium and others that would 'kill' the patient instead of letting him die?

Is my evaluation correct? (Oh, didn't we discuss this once in the Abortion thread?).


You are halfway right. Yes in the case of painful terminal illness as in terminal cancer or other fatal injury I do support euthanasia. However, instead of 'passive' euthanasia, I support 'active' euthanasia. See in a terminally ill patient life support devices, pain killers provide comfort. Taking them away lets the person die, but it is a cruel and unusual death. I'd rather give the lethal injection so they can die quickly and painlessly.

Also I do support forms of euthanasia in exception to terminal illness in what I consider 'dignity in death'. If a person is vegetated, or in a situation where they are embarrassingly dependent on others, I think they have the right to choose death. I personally am a very independent minded individual, the fact that someone ever has to sponge me, clean up my waste etc taking away the self reliance and dignity I had in my youth is something that is emotionally unbearable. Yes, its pure fickle pride, but I'd rather die than be a senile vegetable.


I agree with this.

How about another angle? Religious "suicides" for example. In some religions there are acceptable methods of giving up one's life (after completing all necessary duties as dictated by the religion and performing the proper rituals/rites, penances, etc). Should we be ok with that? I remember there was some controversy about some Jain woman who decided to starve herself to death in accordance with her religion (if you read Jain literature and mythology, there are many many stories of people who live out their lives, then take up asceticism before finally giving up their lives via prolonged fasting; this is called 'Santhara' and is acceptable in Jainism). Should we be ok with that as a religious right? Is stopping such a person going against their freedom to practice their religion?

@topic: maybe I'll try to save the person if it's a hot woman. Evil Smile


Edited by Kal El - 10 July 2009 at 11:24am

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Originally posted by PhoeniXof_Hades

Something wrong with you Ashoka? LOL Suddenly such a big fan of Prachi? LOL

i thought you were a fan of prachi...oops baniLOL

so i thought a prachi smile could do wonders to youLOL

Originally posted by Kal El


I agree with this.

How about another angle? Religious "suicides" for example. In some religions there are acceptable methods of giving up one's life (after completing all necessary duties as dictated by the religion and performing the proper rituals/rites, penances, etc). Should we be ok with that? I remember there was some controversy about some Jain woman who decided to starve herself to death in accordance with her religion (if you read Jain literature and mythology, there are many many stories of people who live out their lives, then take up asceticism before finally giving up their lives via prolonged fasting; this is called 'Santhara' and is acceptable in Jainism). Should we be ok with that as a religious right? Is stopping such a person going against their freedom to practice their religion?

oh , nothing is greater than religion !LOL

@topic: maybe I'll try to save the person if it's a hot woman. Evil Smile

better save yourselfLOL



Edited by clodpolish - 10 July 2009 at 9:36pm

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Posted: 10 July 2009 at 9:44pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Kal El


How about another angle? Religious "suicides" for example. In some religions there are acceptable methods of giving up one's life (after completing all necessary duties as dictated by the religion and performing the proper rituals/rites, penances, etc). Should we be ok with that? I remember there was some controversy about some Jain woman who decided to starve herself to death in accordance with her religion (if you read Jain literature and mythology, there are many many stories of people who live out their lives, then take up asceticism before finally giving up their lives via prolonged fasting; this is called 'Santhara' and is acceptable in Jainism). Should we be ok with that as a religious right? Is stopping such a person going against their freedom to practice their religion?

@topic: maybe I'll try to save the person if it's a hot woman. Evil Smile


You bring in an interesting aspect. Actually kind of on a similar tangent, Mahatma Gandhi and other people who 'fasted' would be considered ethically wrong if 'suicide' was considered absolutely wrong in terms of ethics. I tend to be liberal with 'suicide'. I think people do have the right over their own lives. As I stated before, I will try to talk them out of it, because I personally find it ridiculous. However, ultimately its their prerogative. After suicide in Hindi literally reads 'self happiness'.

While suicide bombers disturb me, I find the notion of Kamikaze Pilots and Harakiri quite romantic.

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Posted: 10 July 2009 at 9:55pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Kal El


@topic: maybe I'll try to save the person if it's a hot woman. Evil Smile


Oh dear, I really and truly hope that the next girl that attempts suicide near you is good looking, otherwise she'll be going somewhere far, far away.

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It's a gr8 sin 2 me same like u committed murder..
 
U r murdering urself man. it's a Crime...
 
God hve gven u Life 2 live nt 2 end it.. As it is said gve respect n take respect. same way... If u take life. den after life ... life will take u take widout gving u anythng benfits.. C d EG of Global Warning......
 
In mine depression tym i thng abt dis. but i dun care 2 go agsinst god n nature wish...
 
If sum1 try 2 do it in front of me. i will Try 2 eg hw gr8 Dere life is... Dey thnk dey r living in Hell. but ven u actually commit Suicide u will surely live in Hell. nt only dat u hurt Eevry1 close 2 u... I knw dis feeling.. mine Mom Coousin Bro commit Suicide.. n I saw hw mine mom was so Sad. u just hurt d person who luves u
 
If u r trying 2 commit suicide due 2 Debt...  C dere r many ppl in dis Wrld who r widout money. who liive in d street but still dey live... if u lose sum1 dat is d reason. C dere r many Orphanage where D kids dun even knw Who r dere parents n Y dey felt dem. but still dey live. n live hppily.. even though wid dis gr8 grief all dose dere yrs...No prob can b so big dat u need 2 commit Suicide

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i wil tel him..."oyye com lets die together"ROFLtht person wil stop d plan od suicide..nd say"abbeey i dontwanna die wit u ...i am suicidin to get peace ..nt to get into pieces hearin ur
bakwaas"ROFL


evryman feels to suicide at som point of tym[evn though som wont agree tht they felt].evn i hvtried killin myself.bt the strength of mind is shown wen tht strong feelin is overcomedSmile
nly brave can suicide bt in my opinion its the biggest crime nyone can do..
it is said tht d bodygets decayed aftr death .,..bt soul remains...aliv..so the person who kil themself ..r makin d soul alone ...sufferin without a body....a day isder wen god wil cal ..us..wait 4tht ..thts d best thingSmile





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