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To the witch,

From the article I had read about Euthanasia [written by you] I am assuming you support euthanasia only when the other alternative for the patient is death, and that too a much more painful one, and unnecessarily making the patient live would mean a waste of both country and persona resources? And finally, that the patient is not 'killed', but to 'let die', i.e. like taking off the supports like oxygen and stuffs that are given to the patient (that i using an unnatural mean to make the patient live, and something that would have been next to impossible even a century before), contrary to injecting lithium and others that would 'kill' the patient instead of letting him die?

Is my evaluation correct? (Oh, didn't we discuss this once in the Abortion thread?).

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Originally posted by PhoeniXof_Hades

^ ^

To the witch,

From the article I had read about Euthanasia [written by you] I am assuming you support euthanasia only when the other alternative for the patient is death, and that too a much more painful one, and unnecessarily making the patient live would mean a waste of both country and persona resources? And finally, that the patient is not 'killed', but to 'let die', i.e. like taking off the supports like oxygen and stuffs that are given to the patient (that i using an unnatural mean to make the patient live, and something that would have been next to impossible even a century before), contrary to injecting lithium and others that would 'kill' the patient instead of letting him die?

Is my evaluation correct? (Oh, didn't we discuss this once in the Abortion thread?).


You are halfway right. Yes in the case of painful terminal illness as in terminal cancer or other fatal injury I do support euthanasia. However, instead of 'passive' euthanasia, I support 'active' euthanasia. See in a terminally ill patient life support devices, pain killers provide comfort. Taking them away lets the person die, but it is a cruel and unusual death. I'd rather give the lethal injection so they can die quickly and painlessly.

Also I do support forms of euthanasia in exception to terminal illness in what I consider 'dignity in death'. If a person is vegetated, or in a situation where they are embarrassingly dependent on others, I think they have the right to choose death. I personally am a very independent minded individual, the fact that someone ever has to sponge me, clean up my waste etc taking away the self reliance and dignity I had in my youth is something that is emotionally unbearable. Yes, its pure fickle pride, but I'd rather die than be a senile vegetable.

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Way too much complicated for my brain to comprehend.

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Originally posted by PhoeniXof_Hades

^ ^

Way too much complicated for my brain to comprehend.

Let me try to help too .(from what i understand )

Firstly, i take it that you are clear about active and passive euthanasia. So , RTH ji seems to be supporting active euthanasia because a lethal injection causes death without pain while in passive euthanasia, one dies a very painful death !

Secondly , from the term "dignity of death" , i guess she means to say simply that a person should be given the right to chose death when that person becomes too independent on other individuals even for basic stuff (even though that person might not be on machines) because for an otherwise independently thinking and acting individual, such a life would be worthless.



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^ Thanks, but  was merely kidding when I made that comment. LOL

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Originally posted by PhoeniXof_Hades

^ Thanks, but was merely kidding when I made that comment. LOL
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^ But I liked reading your explanation.

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