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Posted: 19 March 2009 at 6:21am | IP Logged
Originally posted by deepthis

RON AND HERMIONE
i like this pair a lot
draco and hermione would also might have made a great couple
but ron and hermione r so cute

But that's not being "out of blue" you see...it's a canon one.Tongue

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@Anu: Though I'm not terribly fond of H/D, I won't deny at times I had had this strangest feeling that Draco does infact feels something for Harry (though we have absoulutely no way of knowing that since the entire saga was described through Harry's perspective). Maybe J.K.R, who had already gone through a lot of bashings due to the contents of her books, didn't want more of it, so deliberately she had hidden any same gender pairing? LIke she did with Dumbledore's one; kept him inside the closet, atleast in the books.
I do agree that a small relationship (doesn't need to be a serious one) b/w HD could have very easily spiced up the book even more, and given that, as you said, both are represantatives of their respective houses, a relationship b/w them would mean the pairing of not only these two boys but also their houses. Since one of J.K.R's main motive for writing was to get rid of predujices in the world, this could have beena a very nice way of showing that. Also not to mention the millions of fanfics I have read about this couple proves that they have got a large amount of fans.
However, I have always preffered Harry/Ron as a couple over Harry/Draco; dunno why, though. Their friendship had amazed me from time to time...not a a serious one though.
BTW just out of curiousity, do you not like Ron (asking after reading your last statement)?
 
Oh, wouldn't a Hermione/Luna pair be great, tooLOL The complete opposite girls, not only physically but also in thoughts and views of the world, coming together?
Completely seconded! I think it'd be fair to say that both Draco and Harry have a very [un]healthy obsession with each other. If the number of times Harry mentions him in HBP is any indication... then, he thinks more of Draco than he does of his one true love Ginny which is kind of sad. I think even in the last book, the whole Slytherin-Gryffindor is largely left unresolved with the Gryffindors and the other two houses isolating the Slytherins so an H/D relationship might have provided some sort of closure for that.
 
To be honest, I've never entertained the thought of Harry/Ron as a couple. I admire their fierce friendship but their might be the problem of clashing egos in a long-term relationship but then again, that's a problem for almost every relationship so maybe Harry/Ron would work great. Ha. I don't hate Ron. I think that given his loyalty to the Gryffindor house, he might get comically angry if his sister or his closest friend was to fraternize with "the enemy" -- kind of like with Viktor Krum in GoF.
 
Hm..Luna-Hermione would be a rather unorthodox pairing but I don't think they'd work in the romantic context. I've always though of Hermione's potential would-be partner as being someone who knows their mind, is intelligent enough to hold their own (as much as I adore Hermione, she can be a push-over quite a few times) and not be steam-rolled by Hermione. Luna's whimsy, notwithstanding her intelligence, might drive Hermione over the edge because Hermione is gung-ho about being logical and rational. When it comes to Luna, I think I'd stick with the Luna/Harry pairing. The boy's got so much so much of the hard and cold reality in his life that Luna's other worldliness  would provide a contrast to that. Plus, it's not like Luna is loony - she does have wisdom to share and does express her opinion when she feels the need to. There's also that she can be supportive and comforting, as seen in OOTP where her presence has a soothing effect on Harry.

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Originally posted by redhotght


And recently I am obsessed with Harry/Ron......after Ron is the thing he misses the MOST...his WHEEZY HAHA

 
ROTFL.... same hereLOL I have read a couple of sl*sh fanfics about them, and surprisingly, I enjoyed them  to the last bit!ShockedLOLEmbarrassed (but it  might also be due to the author who wrote them so interestingly). ConfusedEmbarrassed Either way I never imagined or thougbt about the possibility of this couple, and quiet honestly speaking, the thought of them as a a cuple really freaked me out. But seriously though, their friendship had charmed me from time to time.Embarrassed
BTW I liked ypur asnwer...such a  detailed oneClap
 
Oh, well, how do you think of Luna and Hermione?LOL Two completely different girls falling for each other?LOL Not talking about a serious relationship, just a temporary crushLOL God I guess I'm getting madLOL

hehe thanx...no ure not getting mad at allLOLI LOVE fanfics about harry/Ron(and its quite popular in fandom to be honest EmbarrassedEmbarrassed) It always happens to me too...when I discover a new couple I kinda get freaked out BUT after a while Harry/Ron started growing on me......Tongue.......and honestly I like harry/ron more tahn harry/draco but I agree with you that  HD do have a connection. Even though i cant see Hermione-Draco at all LOL.
Hermione/Luna is CUTE to me because I think Hermione is more sensitive than most people expect (People expect her to be a total rational thinker but I don't think so...she has dreamy side to her)And her and Luna make a great couple coz Luna might bring out Hermione's hidden side out more oftenWink OR at least i would like to think thatLOL
BUT I agree with you that some fanfic authors are great (the Harry Ron ones)...I just love reading well written ficsSmile

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Originally posted by ShadowKisses

Completely seconded! I think it'd be fair to say that both Draco and Harry have a very [un]healthy obsession with each other. If the number of times Harry mentions him in HBP is any indication... then, he thinks more of Draco than he does of his one true love Ginny which is kind of sad. I think even in the last book, the whole Slytherin-Gryffindor is largely left unresolved with the Gryffindors and the other two houses isolating the Slytherins so an H/D relationship might have provided some sort of closure for that.
 
Yep that's what I just said. Can't really say about Draco (because as I said before we have no way of knowing what is going inside his head, as the entire saga is narrated through Harry's perspective) but Harry's obsession with Draco (even if it's in a negative sort of way) is very much clear. As you stated it quiet right, the number of times Harry had taken Draco's name in HBP, it can be a good way for J.K.Rowling to show us the tension b/w them, without having to state it directly in the book. It is possible that Harry indeed had some feeling for Draco, (because both were victims of cruel destiniy, and had been tortured by their own family members) but I believe Harry wasn't aware of that.
 
Since nothing about Draco had been written in the book, I would like to believe that Draco also had feeling for Harry, but unlike Harry, maybe he was aware/consciouss of that. I never thought of this almost impossible possibility before, until I started reading fanfics based on Draco's life, and read various character analysis of him. The main reason why Draco hated Harry was because Harry didn't choose Draco as his friends on the first day (rather than HArry being popular and Draco being jealous of that), but rather took Ron (a mudblood lover, or blood traitor, in Draco's eyes) and Hermione (a mudblood in Draco's eyes) as his friends. I'm more than sure Draco was simply frustated and angry with Harry for that reason. Maybe his (Draco's) frustation at the fact that he loves Harry so much, wanted him so much , and yet Harry refused him had turned him into such a rival enemy of Harry? Who knows, maybe if Harry had indeed chosen him as his friend on that first day at Hogwarts, Harry could have been able to change Draco completely?
 
Originally posted by ShadowKisses

To be honest, I've never entertained the thought of Harry/Ron as a couple. I admire their fierce friendship but their might be the problem of clashing egos in a long-term relationship but then again, that's a problem for almost every relationship so maybe Harry/Ron would work great. Ha. I don't hate Ron. I think that given his loyalty to the Gryffindor house, he might get comically angry if his sister or his closest friend was to fraternize with "the enemy" -- kind of like with Viktor Krum in GoF.
 
Hmm, so we need to disagree here I guess. No problem. I also love the fierce friendship these two guys share, though I won't deny at times I really felt angry at Ron for walking out/ not supporting Harry in various circumstances. I could stand the fact that in DH Ron walked out of them in the middle of the adventure, owing to the fact that Ron wasn't prepared for such a life (since he had always been fed well in Hogwarts and at home by his mother whereas in the tent they couldn't even manage to get proper food), but Ron not believing Harry in GOF had really made me feel like slapping him tight across the fact, LOL.LOL
But good thing is, Ron always comes to realize his mistakes, and asks for forgiveness no matter what. Also, he doesn't really harm Harry, no matter how angry he (Ron) is with him (Harry).
 
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Hm..Luna-Hermione would be a rather unorthodox pairing but I don't think they'd work in the romantic context. I've always though of Hermione's potential would-be partner as being someone who knows their mind, is intelligent enough to hold their own (as much as I adore Hermione, she can be a push-over quite a few times) and not be steam-rolled by Hermione. Luna's whimsy, notwithstanding her intelligence, might drive Hermione over the edge because Hermione is gung-ho about being logical and rational. When it comes to Luna, I think I'd stick with the Luna/Harry pairing. The boy's got so much so much of the hard and cold reality in his life that Luna's other worldliness  would provide a contrast to that. Plus, it's not like Luna is loony - she does have wisdom to share and does express her opinion when she feels the need to. There's also that she can be supportive and comforting, as seen in OOTP where her presence has a soothing effect on Harry.
 
But that's the reason why I would like to see a Luna-Hermy pairing - because of their complete two different peronalities. While one believes in things without having any solid evidence for it (Hermione would rather put it as "She believes in things as long as there's no evidence for it!"), Hermione is extremely close minded (not in a negative sort of way) but she is. I think both of them are two forms of extremist. That is why I guess them having and spending some time together could help th situation. Hermione could become more open-minded staying with Luna, while Luna could learn to atleast stop beliving in absolutely foolish things. Both has something to learn from the other.
 
Though I wouldn't deny the amount of fightings that would have taken place if they were together....LOL
 
Yep, I would love the Harry-Luna pairing, for the reason you stated above. Luna is not actually a loony many would like to believe. Infact Luna is as much as intelligent as Hermione is, just the difference being that they are intelligent at two completely different aspects - but intelligent nonetheless.
 
Here is one essay from Lexicon (if you haven't read that already, that is!) that speaks about Luna's importance in Harry's life and his circle of friends:
 
Originally posted by HP Lexicon

 

Essays

Luna's Place in the Expanding Circle of Friends

by Antosha

Luna is clearly Hermione's mirror. I think Hermione's rationalism, which is such an important part of the trio's dynamic, has its downside: an unwillingness to leap before looking; a fear of the unknown. We've watched Hermione freeze up in just about every book because her studies haven't provided her with the answer. Usually Ron and Harry have to pull/prod/jolly Hermione past these crises ("Are you a witch or aren't you!"). Freud and Jung would say that the thing you're afraid of is the thing you buried, the thing you secretly want to do. But now we have Luna who is Hermione's physical photo-negative (blonde fluffy hair instead of brown), who is, like Hermione, brainy, if in an entirely different way, and who embodies all of the things Hermione most lacks: intuition and faith. Not big-F Faith, because, thankfully, we haven't gotten a straight sermon in the books yet, and if we do I'll scream. But little-f faith in the possibility of the world operating on laws that transcend the limits of mere physics, chemistry and biology. (This is, after all, a universe where magic works.) I think that Luna's 'fuzziness' gets under Hermione's skin precisely because it is so scary to her. But I think it is part of the support that Harry needs in order to stay sane while facing the horrors of the mysteries that he must face in the years to come. And I betcha knowing Luna forces Hermione to grow too. Besides, how fun, someone else for Hermione to bicker with. And possibly to fight over Ron with. Whooopee!

I'm a rationalist, myself, and love Hermione for her logic and her intellect--and her loyalty. But I think it is wonderful that JKR has inserted Luna, and with her a door to all of those unanswerable mysteries the Department of Mysteries has been struggling with. It allows JKR to touch on issues like death and love and time and responsibility on a larger scale than merely life-within-the-plot without resorting to a religious or even secular creed that would lessen, rather than increase, the books' impact, since whatever belief she espouses would be at odds with that of 90% or more of her readers.

2004 Antosha

 
 
 
Oh, forgot to add, yes, as much as I also love this girl (Hermione), she can, at times, get highly nagging and irritating. Though I love it in some odd sort of way.LOL


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Originally posted by redhotght


hehe thanx...no ure not getting mad at allLOLI LOVE fanfics about harry/Ron(and its quite popular in fandom to be honest EmbarrassedEmbarrassed) It always happens to me too...when I discover a new couple I kinda get freaked out BUT after a while Harry/Ron started growing on me......Tongue.......and honestly I like harry/ron more tahn harry/draco but I agree with you that  HD do have a connection. Even though i cant see Hermione-Draco at all LOL.
Hermione/Luna is CUTE to me because I think Hermione is more sensitive than most people expect (People expect her to be a total rational thinker but I don't think so...she has dreamy side to her)And her and Luna make a great couple coz Luna might bring out Hermione's hidden side out more oftenWink OR at least i would like to think thatLOL
BUT I agree with you that some fanfic authors are great (the Harry Ron ones)...I just love reading well written ficsSmile
 
Nope Khushboo, that's were you are being mistaken: I'm already mad. Mad for the HP series. Yes, Ron/Harry FF's are quiet common, but given the immense popularity of the series, this doesn't at all come as a surprise for me, you see. I even read fanfics ranging from HArry Hermione to Snape Hermione.LOL You wouldn't believe to what extent this authors can get just to express their imagination. Though I deinitely love it (and as fas as I am aware of J.K.Rowling does loves it too).
Fanfictions is the reason why I'm still alive now, or else I would have died the day I finished reading Deathly Hallows.LOL My appreciation goes to the number of authors who spends their valuable time writing these ff's that seriously take me once again into the magic world of HP. While reading, I sometimes even forget that this is a complete non-canon story, it has nothing to do with the real HP. Ofcourse, no author can come closer to J.K.Rowling, but some still are highly gifted and they can easily slim into Jo'swriting style, making me feel as if this is really happening, ya know. Though I won't deny some ff's are downright tragic. Most FF's that shows H/R as a pair needs to make Ron break up with Hermy and Harry break up with Ginny. Harry's break up with Ginny is something I don't care (or rather enjoyWink) but when Ron breaks up with Hermy, Hermy's heart breaks down too, and it melts my heart as wellCryLOL I am sure a crazy lunatic.LOL
 
THe H/R fanfics I've recently read were very nicely written, and that's what ,I guess, have made me such a big fan of their pairing, all of a sudden, LOL.
 
Yes Ron is Harry's WheezyLOL


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^^^^OMG now that you mentioned Snape-hermy, I had tried reading those one too, I got totally freakedd outWackoLOLI am fine with fics that make Hermione time travel to when snape was young ( I have read a couple of those...but the other ones are just CRAZY ahaha)....and trust me I am alive coz of the fanfics too LOL but I only usually read the harry-ron or ron-hermiione fics...I think it's time to expand my horizonsLOL.
I am quite fine with Harry-Ginny breaking up too LOL I just wish JKR would have given a better reason as to why Ginny is Harry's soulmate (she keeps on saying in interviews that they are soulmates but sorry to sya I really dont get it)...if it was better develpoed realtionship I would liked it canonically so to speak lol. Anyway I don't like stories that involve R/hr breaking up, I just rather(in fanfics) that Harry-Ron get togther and ron hermione don't like each other in the first place.Ermm btw that line of Dobby's is my fav..gotta love good'ol DobbyEmbarrassed

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Wouldn't hermione and fred look cute together? i've always wanted fred and hermione to see each other. it was so cruel that fred had to die in the battle.

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