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Posted: 11 March 2009 at 9:27am | IP Logged
Designer baby row over US clinic

The LA Fertility Institutes run by Dr Jeff Steinberg, a pioneer of IVF in the 1970s, expects a trait-selected baby to be born next year.

His clinic also offers sex selection.

UK fertility experts are angered that the service will distract attention from how the same technology can protect against inherited disease.

The science is based on a lab technique called preimplantation genetic diagnosis, or PGD.

This involves testing a cell taken from a very early embryo before it is put into the mother's womb.

Doctors then select an embryo free from rogue genes - or in this case an embryo with the desired physical traits such as blonde hair and blue eyes - to continue the pregnancy, and discard any others.

Dr Steinberg said couples might seek to use the clinic's services for both medical and cosmetic reasons.

For example, a couple might want to have a baby with a darker complexion to help guard against a skin cancer if they already had a child who had developed a melanoma. But others might just want a boy with blonde hair.

His clinic is offering this cosmetic selection to patients already having genetic screening for abnormal chromosome conditions in their embryos.

"Not all patients will qualify for these tests and we make NO guarantees as to 'perfect prediction' of things such as eye colour or hair colour," says the clinic's website.

Dr Steinberg said: "I would not say this is a dangerous road. It's an uncharted road."

He said the capability to offer such services had been around for years, but had been ignored by the medical community.

"It's time for everyone to pull their heads out of the sand."

Slippery slope

But Dr Gillian Lockwood, a UK fertility expert and member of the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists' ethics committee, questioned whether is was morally right to be using the science in this way.

"If it gets to the point where we can decide which gene or combination of genes are responsible for blue eyes or blonde hair, what are you going to do with all those other embryos that turn out like me to be ginger with green eyes?"

She warned against "turning babies into commodities that you buy off the shelf."

Josephine Quintavalle of Comment on Reproductive Ethics said: "This is the inevitable slippery slope of a fertility process which results in many more embryos being created than can be implanted. Choices will always have to be made. Do you choose octuplets or the ones with the prettiest noses?"

In the UK, sex selection is banned and choices are currently permitted only in relationship to the baby's health.

Italian fertility law does not permit the creation of surplus embryos or selective testing. Ms Quintavalle said that was "one sure way to avoid the slippery slope".

Meanwhile, new legislation in the UK, due to come in on 6 April, will allow IVF mothers to name anyone as "father" on the birth certificate - even another woman.

The only restriction on naming a second parent will be if they are close blood relatives or if the second person does not agree.


 

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The need of pre-birth genetic altering for birth defects is understandable but for choosing hair color / eye color. huh?
 
Basically,
 
Should parents be allowed to choose pre-birth genetic altering for changing traits(cosmetic / vanity) of thier unborn?
 
related -
a) Should parent have right to say YES or NO, for any pre-birth genetic procedure used for cure disability or life threatening defect?
b) Genetic altering is kind of playing against the law of almighty, any justification around it?
c) Do you see changing cosmetic traits of unborn as the IN thing for the next generation?
 


Edited by raj5000 - 11 March 2009 at 9:28am

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Posted: 11 March 2009 at 9:38am | IP Logged
Originally posted by raj5000

Designer baby row over US clinic

The LA Fertility Institutes run by Dr Jeff Steinberg, a pioneer of IVF in the 1970s, expects a trait-selected baby to be born next year.

His clinic also offers sex selection.

UK fertility experts are angered that the service will distract attention from how the same technology can protect against inherited disease.

The science is based on a lab technique called preimplantation genetic diagnosis, or PGD.

This involves testing a cell taken from a very early embryo before it is put into the mother's womb.

Doctors then select an embryo free from rogue genes - or in this case an embryo with the desired physical traits such as blonde hair and blue eyes - to continue the pregnancy, and discard any others.

Dr Steinberg said couples might seek to use the clinic's services for both medical and cosmetic reasons.

For example, a couple might want to have a baby with a darker complexion to help guard against a skin cancer if they already had a child who had developed a melanoma. But others might just want a boy with blonde hair.

His clinic is offering this cosmetic selection to patients already having genetic screening for abnormal chromosome conditions in their embryos.

"Not all patients will qualify for these tests and we make NO guarantees as to 'perfect prediction' of things such as eye colour or hair colour," says the clinic's website.

Dr Steinberg said: "I would not say this is a dangerous road. It's an uncharted road."

He said the capability to offer such services had been around for years, but had been ignored by the medical community.

"It's time for everyone to pull their heads out of the sand."

Slippery slope

But Dr Gillian Lockwood, a UK fertility expert and member of the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists' ethics committee, questioned whether is was morally right to be using the science in this way.

"If it gets to the point where we can decide which gene or combination of genes are responsible for blue eyes or blonde hair, what are you going to do with all those other embryos that turn out like me to be ginger with green eyes?"

She warned against "turning babies into commodities that you buy off the shelf."

Josephine Quintavalle of Comment on Reproductive Ethics said: "This is the inevitable slippery slope of a fertility process which results in many more embryos being created than can be implanted. Choices will always have to be made. Do you choose octuplets or the ones with the prettiest noses?"

In the UK, sex selection is banned and choices are currently permitted only in relationship to the baby's health.

Italian fertility law does not permit the creation of surplus embryos or selective testing. Ms Quintavalle said that was "one sure way to avoid the slippery slope".

Meanwhile, new legislation in the UK, due to come in on 6 April, will allow IVF mothers to name anyone as "father" on the birth certificate - even another woman.

The only restriction on naming a second parent will be if they are close blood relatives or if the second person does not agree.


 

********************************************************************************************************************** 
The need of pre-birth genetic altering for birth defects is understandable but for choosing hair color / eye color. huh?
 
Basically,
 
Should parents be allowed to choose pre-birth genetic altering for changing traits(cosmetic / vanity) of thier unborn?
 
related -
a) Should parent have right to say YES or NO, for any pre-birth genetic procedure used for cure disability or life threatening defect?
b) Genetic altering is kind of playing against the law of almighty, any justification around it?
c) Do you see changing cosmetic traits of unborn as the IN thing for the next generation?
 
 
yeah. blue eyd bleach blondes are really beautiful...
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Originally posted by Gauri_3

My only concern is --- would you be able to feel proud if someone compliments how pretty your baby isLOL
 
What if the fashion changes by the time the baby grows up and instead of blue eyes, dusky dark eyes are in vogue?  keep dreaming...LOLWouldn't the baby curse his parents who have natural dark eyes but forced blue ones on him/herLOL  no she will be thankful...I say leave the choice on the babies when they grow up.  Cosmetic/plastic surgery and colored contacts can give them the looks they truly desire.  Why go with guessing just to end up with a baby who's always fussing about the way he turned out to be just because parents went for the package --- buy big boobs get bigger butt freeROFLthats cool....u mean the mother can get big boobs if she goes for this genetic package for her baby!!! thats terrific
 
 
Well, don't know about butt ugly folks but goodlookin' bunch should not be worried about when it comes to cosmetic appeal.  But then, what would I knowLOL yeah.... thats veri true...
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Originally posted by Gauri_3

Originally posted by qwertyesque

 
yeah. blue eyd bleach blondes are really beautiful...
 
It's not a "custom made wife" ordering service, qwerty!!!  they are talking about custom made babies.  Given how you drool over blue eyed bleach blondes, chances are these would be the exact same traits you wouldn't want in any of your off springs - rightLOL
 
 i know i am thinking about the future .. wouldnt that be world full of blondes LOL.. and given my stand on values.. i am sure you know i cant be incestuous.... LOL.. there are only two kinds of 18-20 or something..teh dumb ones get married have children get out of shape and then talk abuot womens lib for the rest of their lives.. the other ones...are a good date...LOL


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